The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

[Patsfan1081]

Juancho, Pritchard and Romeo

for

Bagley 3 and Mitchell

Schroder/Mitchell
Smart/Nesmith
Brown/Richardson
Tatum/Bagley
Williams/Horford.

IMO a much more balanced roster.

Mitchell has a lot more value than that. I do think Sac needs to move off one of their pg but it will cost more than that.

[Larry_Russell]

Juancho, Pritchard and Romeo

for

Bagley 3 and Mitchell

Schroder/Mitchell
Smart/Nesmith
Brown/Richardson
Tatum/Bagley
Williams/Horford.

IMO a much more balanced roster.

Mitchell has a lot more value than that. I do think Sac needs to move off one of their pg but it will cost more than that.

I agree. Not sure how much more needs added. Can take a bad contract too i suppose with the tpe. Or a second/protected first. Cash.

[OBisHalJordan]

Tatum for Towns!

Tatum for Towns!

Tatum for Towns!

[Larry_Russell]

Tatum for Towns!

Tatum for Towns!

Tatum for Towns!

Well, tatum holds more value so minny wiuld have to add more.

And Kat is a center and rob williams is actually ballong bigtime.

Really need a shooter at pg or sg.

If we traded tatum for towns we would still be

Schroder/pritchard
Smart/richardson
Brown/romeo
Horford/grantw
Kat/williams

Weak bench
Still have a bad starting pg.

If we are talking in pure hypotheticals and ignoring if thebother team makes the deal...

I wamt ja morant and jjj for tatum and schroder

Morant
Smart
Brown
Jjj
Timelord

[captain green]

Well I'm expecting a trade we have to many players that ain't getting playing time that would somewhere else. The jays ain't going nowhere and add timelord league leading fg % to the not going nowhere list the rest is arguable. I'm going to ponder for a couple later

[GoGreen]

Really need shooting. I'm not against Marcus for Buddy Hield. Or somebody for Buddy Hield.

[Fierce1]

Right now it's looking like a 3rd big man is more important than a shooter.

We all saw how bad things went for the Celts when it was Grant Williams playing Center in the 3rd qtr.

The Cavs game was a preview of how it's going to be if Horford is not available.

I think getting another big man like Christian Wood is more of a priority.

What happens if Rob and Big Al are both not available?

Even a Daniel Theis would be a good addition right now.

[Larry_Russell]

Right now it's looking like a 3rd big man is more important than a shooter.

We all saw how bad things went for the Celts when it was Grant Williams playing Center in the 3rd qtr.

The Cavs game was a preview of how it's going to be if Horford is not available.

I think getting another big man like Christian Wood is more of a priority.

What happens if Rob and Big Al are both not available?

Even a Daniel Theis would be a good addition right now.

We had Kanter and Bruno on the bench yet Ime chose to play Grant.

It isnt like we did not have the size just sitting there growing cobwebs.

[Bleeding Green]

Juancho, Pritchard and Romeo

for

Bagley 3 and Mitchell

Schroder/Mitchell
Smart/Nesmith
Brown/Richardson
Tatum/Bagley
Williams/Horford.

IMO a much more balanced roster.

Mitchell has a lot more value than that. I do think Sac needs to move off one of their pg but it will cost more than that.

Yeah but you also have to take on Marvin Bagley's son, one of the biggest losers in the NBA.

[Celts17Pride]

Trade Tatum and let’s go get Marvin Bagley III.

Time for me to leave the trade thread. Things are a bit crazy in here.

[Fierce1]

We had Kanter and Bruno on the bench yet Ime chose to play Grant.

It isnt like we did not have the size just sitting there growing cobwebs.

Kanter is horrible on defense.

He had his chance earlier in the season.

The result was not good.
Opposing players kept getting open looks when Kanter was in the game.

Bruno is another story.

Maybe Grant plays better than Bruno in practice.
Plus, Grant is shooting the ball well from 3-point land.

[OBisHalJordan]

We had Kanter and Bruno on the bench yet Ime chose to play Grant.

It isnt like we did not have the size just sitting there growing cobwebs.

Kanter is horrible on defense.

He had his chance earlier in the season.

The result was not good.
Opposing players kept getting open looks when Kanter was in the game.

Bruno is another story.

Maybe Grant plays better than Bruno in practice.
Plus, Grant is shooting the ball well from 3-point land.

Somehow Brad was able to play Kanter good amount. I think the issue is the coach more than the players

Tatum has not been playing well. I am of the group that thinks Brown, while being the inferior player, is a more driven to improve his game and is more competitive than Tatum. If the Celtics are going to make a really big trade. They should trade Tatum bc his value is higher. I don't think Tatum is going to take the next few steps and become a top 5-player. I'd trade him while there is still belief that he could take that step, before the league consensus resets around the increasingly apparent reality that Tatum is very skilled but lacking that drive and intensity to make the most of his talents.

[Bohemian]

We had Kanter and Bruno on the bench yet Ime chose to play Grant.

It isnt like we did not have the size just sitting there growing cobwebs.

Kanter is horrible on defense.

He had his chance earlier in the season.

The result was not good.
Opposing players kept getting open looks when Kanter was in the game.

Bruno is another story.

Maybe Grant plays better than Bruno in practice.
Plus, Grant is shooting the ball well from 3-point land.

Kanter was bad on defense before we signed him and the team knew it. Why sign him then? Makes no sense.
As for the chance, do you really believe anybody can seize it after 10 total minutes of play in 2 games? Come on, let´s be serious.

[Fierce1]

Somehow Brad was able to play Kanter good amount. I think the issue is the coach more than the players

Tatum has not been playing well. I am of the group that thinks Brown, while being the inferior player, is a more driven to improve his game and is more competitive than Tatum. If the Celtics are going to make a really big trade. They should trade Tatum bc his value is higher. I don't think Tatum is going to take the next few steps and become a top 5-player. I'd trade him while there is still belief that he could take that step, before the league consensus resets around the increasingly apparent reality that Tatum is very skilled but lacking that drive and intensity to make the most of his talents.

Same can be said about the early version of Paul Pierce.

Maybe you'd trade him, but I'm willing to bet a hundred dollars that Tatum will be a Celtic for the foreseeable future.

Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown are not going anywhere.

That perception that Tatum is lacking in drive and intensity is because he prefers to be not too high and not too low.
He's more of a cold blooded assassin.

Tatum is still learning the NBA game.

It took Lebron 9 seasons to get his first ring.

Kevin Durant needed 10 seasons and Stephen Curry for his first championship.

Before this season is over, Jayson Tatum will prove doubters wrong.

[Fierce1]

Kanter was bad on defense before we signed him and the team knew it. Why sign him then? Makes no sense.
As for the chance, do you really believe anybody can seize it after 10 total minutes of play in 2 games? Come on, let´s be serious.

I think Celts wanted Kanter back because he did a good job defending Embiid in the 2020 playoffs.

On offense you need more than 10 total minutes to "seize it".

But on defense, 10 minutes is enough to determine if you know how to defend.

I mean they've been practicing on a regular basis and if he still can't figure it out, that means he's just not capable.

Kanter is at his best defending a big man in the low post.

If Kanter is forced to play switching defense then he'll get burned.

Steph Curry put up MVP numbers in the western conference finals in 2019.
The reason was Kanter was forced to switch on Curry almost every GSW possession.
Steve Kerr exploited Kanter to the utmost extreme.
And the result was GSW sweeping the Blazers in the western finals.

[chrisab123]

So now we're at that point where we convince ourselves that the Celtics are better off without star player x, in this case Jayson Tatum. Why do Boston fans ALWAYS want to trade their stars? Is it because as Boston fans we already know that they're leaving anyways? The most likely scenario is that both Brown and Tatum are out of here once their contracts end so maybe its a defense mechanism.

Can't remember the last star player people wanted to keep and not trade. I really can't think of anyone outside of maybe Bergeron or Papi. Redsox fans were happy that Pedro left after 04 and Bruins fans were happy when the team dealt Seguin. Hell Brady won 6 Superbowls and people still wanted to trade him and start the rebuild for Baker Mayfield or Jimmy G. The funny part is, I think we all understand that this team cannot win a title with 12 Marcus Smarts so whats the end game? Put a grit and grind team on the court? That Grizzlies team didn't win either. You need stars to win in professional sports.

Also trading Tatum for Towns is a terrible deal.

[Fierce1]

So now we're at that point where we convince ourselves that the Celtics are better off without star player x, in this case Jayson Tatum. Why do Boston fans ALWAYS want to trade their stars? Is it because as Boston fans we already know that they're leaving anyways? The most likely scenario is that both Brown and Tatum are out of here once their contracts end so maybe its a defense mechanism.

Can't remember the last star player people wanted to keep and not trade. I really can't think of anyone outside of maybe Bergeron or Papi. Redsox fans were happy that Pedro left after 04 and Bruins fans were happy when the team dealt Seguin. Hell Brady won 6 Superbowls and people still wanted to trade him and start the rebuild for Baker Mayfield or Jimmy G. The funny part is, I think we all understand that this team cannot win a title with 12 Marcus Smarts so whats the end game? Put a grit and grind team on the court? That Grizzlies team didn't win either. You need stars to win in professional sports.

Also trading Tatum for Towns is a terrible deal.

You're absolutely correct.

But the good thing is it's only wishful thinking by some of the Celtic fans.

No chance in hell Jayson Tatum gets traded any time soon.

[BK_2020]

Biid put up mvp numbers on us. Kanter is not good at defending bigs downlow.

[Fierce1]

Biid put up mvp numbers on us. Kanter is not good at defending bigs downlow.

Theis was worse against Embiid.

That's the only series where Kanter got significant playing time.

Against Toronto and Miami, Kanter was seldom used.

[zoyathedestroya]

Kanter was great against Embiid. He's physical with him, tires him out, and forces him to take those midrangers and threes. Horford was also good against Embiid during his first stint here. Not sure if that is still the case, Horf seems to be losing strength in those legs/knees.

But if Doc puts Kanter in PnR, good luck to us. Brett Brown never did.