2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[mtcan]

100%. Look at him just start walking back the other side. He knew Edwards was gonna iso and miss it lol.

His body language screams I'm over it.

I would generally avoid KAT because of the risk that he is an empty calories kind of player...but if I were to...I'd be offering Pascal, Flynn, Boucher and 3 first round picks. No need to offer anything else considered part of the core.

FVV
Trent
OG
Scottie
KAT

That is tough to beat.

Lol, thankfully we have a good gm...

Vague comment...does not compute.

[DangerZone13]

Not that I'm disputing KAT is a really good player, but I don't think he's a good fit for what the cost would likely be. Overall roster construction-wise, a 5 in our system is also meant to be option #5.

I believe in time, Achiuwa will grow to be a consistent 10/10 small-ball 5 that can bring the ball up the floor and shoot enough of a 3 to respect- but as we've seen, there's gonna be growing pains. He seemed strong enough to handle Drummond, so if he can improve his bbiq and get a little stronger, he'll have a role for a long time as well. At just 22, his frame will definitely solidify, and if his iq doesn't improve in our system, it's on him.

I'm gonna keep speaking this one into existence though - I want to see Thomas Bryant brought in to see how he looks when focusing that ridiculous wingspan and big frame on defense. If he buys in, and his quickness wasn't destroyed (it was his left ACL, which historically is worse), he could be the bigger half of our 2 headed 5 monster.

Mo Bamba, Thomas Bryant, Naz Reid - that's the type of guy I want to see us get for the 5 to split with Precious, and Birch covering the struggles.

[terryjackson]

Not that I'm disputing KAT is a really good player, but I don't think he's a good fit for what the cost would likely be. Overall roster construction-wise, a 5 in our system is also meant to be option #5.

I believe in time, Achiuwa will grow to be a consistent 10/10 small-ball 5 that can bring the ball up the floor and shoot enough of a 3 to respect- but as we've seen, there's gonna be growing pains. He seemed strong enough to handle Drummond, so if he can improve his bbiq and get a little stronger, he'll have a role for a long time as well. At just 22, his frame will definitely solidify, and if his iq doesn't improve in our system, it's on him.

I'm gonna keep speaking this one into existence though - I want to see Thomas Bryant brought in to see how he looks when focusing that ridiculous wingspan and big frame on defense. If he buys in, and his quickness wasn't destroyed (it was his left ACL, which historically is worse), he could be the bigger half of our 2 headed 5 monster.

Mo Bamba, Thomas Bryant, Naz Reid - that's the type of guy I want to see us get for the 5 to split with Precious, and Birch covering the struggles.

Orlando likely doesn't want to also pay Bamba but he is starting for them now and producing. He likely won't be a cheap asset to buy. The roster construct the Raptors have is very specific. The lack of spacing makes it harder for the Raptors subpar creators to make offense.

That is good in the long term. The minutes they play are great for development purposes. Once a floor spacing center is acquired and shooters like Achiuwa, Barnes, and Banton develop the Raptors flex offense will be even more effective. This team has the chance to be a top 5 offense and defense with it's make up.

Obtaining a floor spacer at the 5 won't be easy but I could see Trent being good trade bait. He would let the roster construct move towards have Barnes at the 2 where his ball handling comes further into play, and puts FVV off ball.

If the team wants to win more games it's a fairly easy formula. Stop playing Precious, trade Boucher so Watanabe takes his place, and play FVV off ball as a secondary creator.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Is Simmons' trade value at this level yet? Dragic+Boucher+Precious+Flynn (+future 1st if required)?

FVV/Dalano/Bonga
OG/GTJ
Pascal/Svi
Scottie/Yuta
Simmons/Birch

We get a boost to our defense and playmaking, and go all-in on playing uptempo positionless basketball.

[h4rrison]

Saw this on the GB..

KAT to Raps
Siakam to Sixers
Simmons to Wolves

Raps might have to include a pick to Wolves but looks pretty interesting for all teams. Embiid/Siakam combo could be lethal. Both are solid shooters/can handle the ball/play defense. Wolves would be pretty thin in the front court, however Simmons provides much needed defense and allows Dlo to play off the ball. And then finally, raps get their starting C. Their team defense compliments KAT's poor defensive play.

[ItsDanger]

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Edey averaging 19 PPG, 9.5 RPG, 2 BPG, 85.7 FG%, 82.4 FT% in just 19.5 minutes. 2 easy opponents but he's carrying forward his performance from U19. Still a work in progress but impressive start. Shot blocking has definitely taken a huge leap this season.

He beat out a guy who was projected to be all-confernece this year to start.


That's how dominate he was in pre-season. That's what the coach said. They have a top 5 prospect in Jaden Ivey who shinned even brighter than Edey last game, so they know how good he is playing w one of the best in the country.

I heard what happened is Edey was dominate, the bench players were beating the starters. And the starters had a top 5 prospect, plus a projected All-conference player who Edey was dominating.

Is he Tacko Fall that can shoot FTs? Rich Man's Hasheem Thabeet?

Edey moves very well for his size. Watch him run the court, he keeps pace with everyone except Ivey.

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[Spida888]

Saw this on the GB..

KAT to Raps
Siakam to Sixers
Simmons to Wolves

Raps might have to include a pick to Wolves but looks pretty interesting for all teams. Embiid/Simmons combo could be lethal. Both are solid shooters/can handle the ball/play defense. Wolves would be pretty thin in the front court, however Simmons provides much needed defense and allows Dlo to play off the ball. And then finally, raps get their starting C. Their team defense compliments KAT's poor defensive play.

I'd be totally down with that, but likely we'll need to add sweetener to get KAT. I'm fine with adding a pick or 2 but they must be protected. I'm not giving up any unprotected picks barring a top 10 player.

Also, I think you mean Embiid/Siakam combo .

[DangerZone13]

Mo Bamba, Thomas Bryant, Naz Reid - that's the type of guy I want to see us get for the 5 to split with Precious, and Birch covering the struggles.

Orlando likely doesn't want to also pay Bamba but he is starting for them now and producing. He likely won't be a cheap asset to buy. The roster construct the Raptors have is very specific. The lack of spacing makes it harder for the Raptors subpar creators to make offense.

That is good in the long term. The minutes they play are great for development purposes. Once a floor spacing center is acquired and shooters like Achiuwa, Barnes, and Banton develop the Raptors flex offense will be even more effective. This team has the chance to be a top 5 offense and defense with it's make up.

Obtaining a floor spacer at the 5 won't be easy but I could see Trent being good trade bait. He would let the roster construct move towards have Barnes at the 2 where his ball handling comes further into play, and puts FVV off ball.

If the team wants to win more games it's a fairly easy formula. Stop playing Precious, trade Boucher so Watanabe takes his place, and play FVV off ball as a secondary creator.

The floor spacing was one of the things I was basing my criteria on. All those young bigs can hit a 3. Not super-reliably yet, but if they could, they'd be much less attainable. Since shot training is one of the team's strengths, all they need is a foundation and work ethic.

Bamba was the ideal scenario given his current production and no injury. Bryant is available for our price range according to the Wizards board. Wolves will likely want to hold onto Reid until the KAT situation resolves.

Playing Achiuwa less and moving Boucher both seem possible by acquiring TB. Resting Bryant while he gains confidence in his knee, and also minutes at the 4 give Precious a window to keep developing without regularly hurting the win column. TB wasn't laterally quick before his injury, so who knows if he can keep up now, but he's the most available guy that makes sense to take a look at. Ideally the injury causes him to train his lower body differently and he becomes more balanced/less stiff.

FVV/Scottie/OG/Spicy/Bryant is an incredibly long, strong line-up for playoff basketball with some development.

[Red_Claw]

Tor: Chris Boucher and Malachi Flynn
For
Den: JaMychal Green and Bol Bol

[DangerZone13]

Tor: Chris Boucher and Malachi Flynn
For
Den: JaMychal Green and Bol Bol

I certainly wouldn't be mad at that either, but it has us taking on a little money. Bol Bol could be an interesting development piece though. Wonder if they'd send him and a 2nd for Flynn? With MPJ's back in question, they may want to hold onto Green, and I don't think we'd want to sit on Green's cap hit next year. Then Boucher and Dragic get moved for 1 and 5 insurance.

[Kingsway_fan]

I would generally avoid KAT because of the risk that he is an empty calories kind of player...but if I were to...I'd be offering Pascal, Flynn, Boucher and 3 first round picks. No need to offer anything else considered part of the core.

FVV
Trent
OG
Scottie
KAT

That is tough to beat.

Lol, thankfully we have a good gm...

Vague comment...does not compute.

dont think Masai does that straight up for pascal ... let alone the additions .

[Bowdystuda]

[i][/i]

The dream trade has to be Ayton. Suns have won 8 straight w/o him...didn't pay him this off-season. Cheap owner.


idk what we'd have to give up tho

It would have to be Siakam for Ayton, Crowder and Saric.

I could see it to be honest. Suns didnt want to max Ayton cuz they dont think he is worth it. Pascal has proven he is. They also have a need for a playmaking forward and can then let Javale pick up rebounds and get put backs which he is doing now.

Van Vleet/Banton/Flynn
Trent Jr/Dragic
Barnes/Svi/Yuta/Bonga
OG/Boucher
Ayton/Achiuwa/Birch

Paul
Booker
Bridges
Siakam
McGee

[h4rrison]

Saw this on the GB..

KAT to Raps
Siakam to Sixers
Simmons to Wolves

Raps might have to include a pick to Wolves but looks pretty interesting for all teams. Embiid/Simmons combo could be lethal. Both are solid shooters/can handle the ball/play defense. Wolves would be pretty thin in the front court, however Simmons provides much needed defense and allows Dlo to play off the ball. And then finally, raps get their starting C. Their team defense compliments KAT's poor defensive play.

I'd be totally down with that, but likely we'll need to add sweetener to get KAT. I'm fine with adding a pick or 2 but they must be protected. I'm not giving up any unprotected picks barring a top 10 player.

Also, I think you mean Embiid/Siakam combo .

Good catch, thanks.

KAT or Ayton? If Ayton is available, would rather have him. Is PHX going to be cheap?

[Spida888]

Saw this on the GB..

KAT to Raps
Siakam to Sixers
Simmons to Wolves

Raps might have to include a pick to Wolves but looks pretty interesting for all teams. Embiid/Simmons combo could be lethal. Both are solid shooters/can handle the ball/play defense. Wolves would be pretty thin in the front court, however Simmons provides much needed defense and allows Dlo to play off the ball. And then finally, raps get their starting C. Their team defense compliments KAT's poor defensive play.

I'd be totally down with that, but likely we'll need to add sweetener to get KAT. I'm fine with adding a pick or 2 but they must be protected. I'm not giving up any unprotected picks barring a top 10 player.

Also, I think you mean Embiid/Siakam combo .

Good catch, thanks.

KAT or Ayton? If Ayton is available, would rather have him. Is PHX going to be cheap?

Hmmm good question, honestly I'd be happy with either acquisition. I think PHX will wait until the offseason to see if they need to pay him the max. Since he'll be a RFA, they can match if need be, or even S&T him if they don't want to keep him.

Ayton is a better defender, but KAT is an offensive talent and a stretch big. I'm not sure if Ayton ends up looking not as good without a premium PG like Chris Paul.

I might lean towards KAT because he was an alright defender in college, so I have some faith in him turning that around a little in our system. His offensive skillset will be a big boost for us.

[Johnny Bball]

Here's the kind of trade we should be looking for IMO. Love has one more year. I wonder what he has in him and if you could have him come of the bench first and make him a reclamation project to trade in the summer as an expiring a la hordford, westbrook etc. He's big, rebound, and passes/starts the break as well as anyone.

Love, CLE FRP, and Houton's 22 SRP, SAS Spurs 22 SRP for Dragic and Boucher. CLE is great without love and its got me thinking they now have more urgency to move him. two years is a heavy contract and would require at least those picks. The SRPs are bascially late firsts with their records.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzf8jf3s

[canada_dry]

Here's the kind of trade we should be looking for IMO. Love has one more year. I wonder what he has in him and if you could have him come of the bench first and make him a reclamation project to trade in the summer as an expiring a la hordford, westbrook etc. He's big, rebound, and passes/starts the break as well as anyone.

Love, CLE FRP, and Houton's 22 SRP, SAS Spurs 22 SRP for Dragic and Boucher. CLE is great without love and its got me thinking they now have more urgency to move him. two years is a heavy contract and would require at least those picks. The SRPs are bascially late firsts with their records.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzf8jf3s

Its intriguing. A risk, but the picks might make.it a risk worth taking.

But does Cleveland REALLY need another small guard? I understand sexton is out but still. And for how long?

Theyd love to get their hands on a boucher type tho for sure.

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[canada_dry]

Orlando is going to be in an awkward position this summer with their bigs situation, having already invested long term in Isaac and WCJ, and Bamba is looking like he's putting the pieces together, he'll be looking for a good contract this summer too. I'm not sure how the Raptors could manoeuvre his restricted free agency, but I think he could grow to be the perfect 5 for our system. Sort of like a taller Ibaka. Masai loves Achiuwa, so perhaps we could develop them into a two-headed monster 5, one with ball handling, one with lane intimidation.

I'm sure Orlando will wait to see where Isaac is with his knee before making a move, but maybe there's a 3 way to be made that gets Orlando a piece that makes them comfortable sending Bamba to Toronto.

Not saying he should be the main get in a potential Siakam deal, but I'd love to see this folded into it if it happened. *this isn't to say I think moving Siakam is the right move just yet, I'm a Spicy fan, andthey still need some time to adapt, but if it's not working come Deadline, Scottie and OG are the priority.

I have low key wanted bamba in Toronto for a while now. ever since Birch was taking his minutes and the coach refused to develop him and play him. Which was pretty much right away lol.

Ironic he and birch would be onnthe same team again tho...

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[Spida888]

Here's the kind of trade we should be looking for IMO. Love has one more year. I wonder what he has in him and if you could have him come of the bench first and make him a reclamation project to trade in the summer as an expiring a la hordford, westbrook etc. He's big, rebound, and passes/starts the break as well as anyone.

Love, CLE FRP, and Houton's 22 SRP, SAS Spurs 22 SRP for Dragic and Boucher. CLE is great without love and its got me thinking they now have more urgency to move him. two years is a heavy contract and would require at least those picks. The SRPs are bascially late firsts with their records.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzf8jf3s

Its intriguing. A risk, but the picks might make.it a risk worth taking.

But does Cleveland REALLY need another small guard? I understand sexton is out but still. And for how long?

Theyd love to get their hands on a boucher type tho for sure.

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Is Cleveland that desperate to get Love off their books? He's obviously a bad contract but I think they're under the tax for now. Unless they want to re-sign Sexton this offseason then yeah they'll be in the luxury tax with Love still on their team.

There's no risk in giving up Dragic and Boucher, and I'm not expecting anything from Love - the prize are the draft assets. Question for the FO is, is that enough compensation for us to go into luxury tax for. I think we'll be a few million over the tax bill if we make this trade.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

KAT is 26 and is actually a C.

He doesn’t have to be high volume but is a clear mismatch against 80% of centres on offense with his mobility and post play. I think we make him look much better with our defensive wings and guards. We could effectively play small without having to play a forward at C.

I think the change of scenery also helps. Don’t know anyway we get him though unless they think really highly of Pascal

[Psubs]

Here's the kind of trade we should be looking for IMO. Love has one more year. I wonder what he has in him and if you could have him come of the bench first and make him a reclamation project to trade in the summer as an expiring a la hordford, westbrook etc. He's big, rebound, and passes/starts the break as well as anyone.

Love, CLE FRP, and Houton's 22 SRP, SAS Spurs 22 SRP for Dragic and Boucher. CLE is great without love and its got me thinking they now have more urgency to move him. two years is a heavy contract and would require at least those picks. The SRPs are bascially late firsts with their records.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzf8jf3s

He has over $30 million next year. I'd rather let Dragic and Boucher expire and spend that money somehow else. He's bad and right now is barely worth the vet min. If he ever gets back to halfway decent he might be worth the MLE level. At triple the MLE that expiring contract isn't worth it as salary filler.

That's a lot to pay for a 1st pick. Just give the scouts a raise for a job well done. Banton Bonus!!!