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Post#343 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:39 pm

Forgot we usually go into the season with an open spot. So yea like AirP said that probably goes to Caleb.
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Post#344 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:40 pm

Jimmy has a legit shot for MVP if he can stay healthy the rest of the season and continue to play at this level. As long as we stay healthy we’re a top 3 seed
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Post#345 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:16 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Jimmy has a legit shot for MVP if he can stay healthy the rest of the season and continue to play at this level. As long as we stay healthy we’re a top 3 seed
agree health will be an issue ,lets hope for the best
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Post#346 » by twix2500 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Jimmy has a legit shot for MVP if he can stay healthy the rest of the season and continue to play at this level. As long as we stay healthy we’re a top 3 seed
agree health will be an issue ,lets hope for the best


Doubt health will be the issue. The greatest hurdle will be the team record. And IMO for Butler to get in serouis contention for MVP he needs to average 25.
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Post#347 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:45 pm

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eddieheatfan wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Jimmy has a legit shot for MVP if he can stay healthy the rest of the season and continue to play at this level. As long as we stay healthy we’re a top 3 seed
agree health will be an issue ,lets hope for the best


Doubt health will be the issue. The greatest hurdle will be the team record. And IMO for Butler to get in serouis contention for MVP he needs to average 25.


I agree, PPG is far more of a factor than it should be but he can do it. He was prior to injury. Unfortunately his injury came early in the game and kind of screwed his averages. 25-7-5-2 with an efficient floor game and elite defense might do it. The impact numbers will all be there as well, they always are. Snag the 1st seed and it’ll be a lock. Top 3 seed to be a legit contender for MVP
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Post#348 » by Wiltside » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:50 am

Hypothetical. Who says no?

Duncan Robinson and Omer Yurtseven for Myles Turner. Start Herro, slide Tucker to reserve.

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Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Herro / Strus / Garrett
Butler / Tucker
Adebayo / Morris
Turner / Dedmon / Okpala (he's a 5 now) / Haslem

Why:

Add a floor spacing, rim protecting big that gives us elite size with him and Bam. Allows Herro to move into the starting lineup, where we continue to have good spacing around Jimmy and Bam with Lowry/Tyler/Turner. Moves Tucker to the 2nd unit where he will still play considerable minutes between the 3/4 slots when we go small with Bam at the 5.

INDIANA

Brogdon / McConnell
Duarte / LeVert
Robinson / Lamb / Martin
Craig / Holiday / Brissett / Warren (inj)
Sabonis / Bitadze / Yurtseven

Why:

Indiana has trouble retaining/luring free agents. Duncan signed to a 5yr deal means they don't have this concern. He can either be retained as a floor spacer around Sabonis, who they can now play at the 5 where he should be in today's NBA, or trade him for draft picks/young talent if they go the rebuild route. Also acquire Yurt who they can groom as a backup 5 as the pot sweetener.
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Post#349 » by carnageta » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:41 am

Wiltside wrote:Hypothetical. Who says no?

Duncan Robinson and Omer Yurtseven for Myles Turner. Start Herro, slide Tucker to reserve.

MIAMI

Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Herro / Strus / Garrett
Butler / Tucker
Adebayo / Morris
Turner / Dedmon / Okpala (he's a 5 now) / Haslem

Why:

Add a floor spacing, rim protecting big that gives us elite size with him and Bam. Allows Herro to move into the starting lineup, where we continue to have good spacing around Jimmy and Bam with Lowry/Tyler/Turner. Moves Tucker to the 2nd unit where he will still play considerable minutes between the 3/4 slots when we go small with Bam at the 5.

INDIANA

Brogdon / McConnell
Duarte / LeVert
Robinson / Lamb / Martin
Craig / Holiday / Brissett / Warren (inj)
Sabonis / Bitadze / Yurtseven

Why:

Indiana has trouble retaining/luring free agents. Duncan signed to a 5yr deal means they don't have this concern. He can either be retained as a floor spacer around Sabonis, who they can now play at the 5 where he should be in today's NBA, or trade him for draft picks/young talent if they go the rebuild route. Also acquire Yurt who they can groom as a backup 5 as the pot sweetener.


Spo says no. lol
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Post#350 » by carnageta » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:42 am

Herro is averaging 22ppg on 47 / 39 / 87 shooting splits.

Talk about efficiency.
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Post#351 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:30 am

If we were to move Duncan it couldn’t be until this summer right? I love Duncan when he’s on fire, I think it takes the team to another level but he can be played off the floor at times, especially when he’s cold.

A guy I would love to get is Harrison Barnes, he’d be a perfect fit and would add defense and rebounding to go with an all around scoring package
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Post#352 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:33 am

Wiltside wrote:Hypothetical. Who says no?

Duncan Robinson and Omer Yurtseven for Myles Turner. Start Herro, slide Tucker to reserve.

MIAMI

Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Herro / Strus / Garrett
Butler / Tucker
Adebayo / Morris
Turner / Dedmon / Okpala (he's a 5 now) / Haslem

Why:

Add a floor spacing, rim protecting big that gives us elite size with him and Bam. Allows Herro to move into the starting lineup, where we continue to have good spacing around Jimmy and Bam with Lowry/Tyler/Turner. Moves Tucker to the 2nd unit where he will still play considerable minutes between the 3/4 slots when we go small with Bam at the 5.

INDIANA

Brogdon / McConnell
Duarte / LeVert
Robinson / Lamb / Martin
Craig / Holiday / Brissett / Warren (inj)
Sabonis / Bitadze / Yurtseven

Why:

Indiana has trouble retaining/luring free agents. Duncan signed to a 5yr deal means they don't have this concern. He can either be retained as a floor spacer around Sabonis, who they can now play at the 5 where he should be in today's NBA, or trade him for draft picks/young talent if they go the rebuild route. Also acquire Yurt who they can groom as a backup 5 as the pot sweetener.


I wouldn’t mind this at all but I think Indy says no. Also, call me crazy but I might start Struss over Herro in this scenario to try and get the closest thing to Duncan out there. I’m loving what Herro is doing off the bench.

Lowry/Dipo
Struss/Herro
Jimmy/Tucker
Bam/Morris
Turner/Dedmon

Doesn’t Bam hate turner though? I think they fought at team USA which was a big reason Bam didn’t make it
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Post#353 » by Wiltside » Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:00 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Hypothetical. Who says no?

Duncan Robinson and Omer Yurtseven for Myles Turner. Start Herro, slide Tucker to reserve.

MIAMI

Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Herro / Strus / Garrett
Butler / Tucker
Adebayo / Morris
Turner / Dedmon / Okpala (he's a 5 now) / Haslem

Why:

Add a floor spacing, rim protecting big that gives us elite size with him and Bam. Allows Herro to move into the starting lineup, where we continue to have good spacing around Jimmy and Bam with Lowry/Tyler/Turner. Moves Tucker to the 2nd unit where he will still play considerable minutes between the 3/4 slots when we go small with Bam at the 5.

INDIANA

Brogdon / McConnell
Duarte / LeVert
Robinson / Lamb / Martin
Craig / Holiday / Brissett / Warren (inj)
Sabonis / Bitadze / Yurtseven

Why:

Indiana has trouble retaining/luring free agents. Duncan signed to a 5yr deal means they don't have this concern. He can either be retained as a floor spacer around Sabonis, who they can now play at the 5 where he should be in today's NBA, or trade him for draft picks/young talent if they go the rebuild route. Also acquire Yurt who they can groom as a backup 5 as the pot sweetener.


I wouldn’t mind this at all but I think Indy says no. Also, call me crazy but I might start Struss over Herro in this scenario to try and get the closest thing to Duncan out there. I’m loving what Herro is doing off the bench.

Lowry/Dipo
Struss/Herro
Jimmy/Tucker
Bam/Morris
Turner/Dedmon

Doesn’t Bam hate turner though? I think they fought at team USA which was a big reason Bam didn’t make it


Healthy competition. I think Bam's beef was more with Pop choosing Turner over him, than necessarily with Turner himself. I could be wrong though.

Indiana is on a road to nowhere right now. Turner doesn't appear long for that roster - I guess the question is, could they do better than Duncan and Yurt. Not sure on that.
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Post#354 » by harlem_ball » Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:05 am

Wiltside wrote:Hypothetical. Who says no?

Duncan Robinson and Omer Yurtseven for Myles Turner. Start Herro, slide Tucker to reserve.

MIAMI

Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Herro / Strus / Garrett
Butler / Tucker
Adebayo / Morris
Turner / Dedmon / Okpala (he's a 5 now) / Haslem

Why:

Add a floor spacing, rim protecting big that gives us elite size with him and Bam. Allows Herro to move into the starting lineup, where we continue to have good spacing around Jimmy and Bam with Lowry/Tyler/Turner. Moves Tucker to the 2nd unit where he will still play considerable minutes between the 3/4 slots when we go small with Bam at the 5.

INDIANA

Brogdon / McConnell
Duarte / LeVert
Robinson / Lamb / Martin
Craig / Holiday / Brissett / Warren (inj)
Sabonis / Bitadze / Yurtseven

Why:

Indiana has trouble retaining/luring free agents. Duncan signed to a 5yr deal means they don't have this concern. He can either be retained as a floor spacer around Sabonis, who they can now play at the 5 where he should be in today's NBA, or trade him for draft picks/young talent if they go the rebuild route. Also acquire Yurt who they can groom as a backup 5 as the pot sweetener.


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Turner is currently avg. 3.4 blocks per game. Yes, you do this. You do this because you want to win now and you need to get bigger to compete against the best. You do this because Herro has taken the next step. You do this because you want Tucker off the bench to conserve him.

:nod:

Barnes is also intriguing. Barnes would keep Bam at the 5 and basically be a bigger, more offensively versatile Tucker but not the extreme makeover Turner would be.

All this said, good to see Duncan snapping out of his funk. A splash bros dynamic takes the Heat to the highest levels but can Duncan be counted on or will he shrivel on the greatest stage? Do you depend on shooting or do you shore up size? Heat havent even faced the Giannis/Lopez lineup yet.

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Post#355 » by IceColdCubano » Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:27 pm

harlem_ball wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Hypothetical. Who says no?

Duncan Robinson and Omer Yurtseven for Myles Turner. Start Herro, slide Tucker to reserve.

MIAMI

Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Herro / Strus / Garrett
Butler / Tucker
Adebayo / Morris
Turner / Dedmon / Okpala (he's a 5 now) / Haslem

Why:

Add a floor spacing, rim protecting big that gives us elite size with him and Bam. Allows Herro to move into the starting lineup, where we continue to have good spacing around Jimmy and Bam with Lowry/Tyler/Turner. Moves Tucker to the 2nd unit where he will still play considerable minutes between the 3/4 slots when we go small with Bam at the 5.

INDIANA

Brogdon / McConnell
Duarte / LeVert
Robinson / Lamb / Martin
Craig / Holiday / Brissett / Warren (inj)
Sabonis / Bitadze / Yurtseven

Why:

Indiana has trouble retaining/luring free agents. Duncan signed to a 5yr deal means they don't have this concern. He can either be retained as a floor spacer around Sabonis, who they can now play at the 5 where he should be in today's NBA, or trade him for draft picks/young talent if they go the rebuild route. Also acquire Yurt who they can groom as a backup 5 as the pot sweetener.


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Turner is currently avg. 3.4 blocks per game. Yes, you do this. You do this because you want to win now and you need to get bigger to compete against the best. You do this because Herro has taken the next step. You do this because you want Tucker off the bench to conserve him.

:nod:

Barnes is also intriguing. Barnes would keep Bam at the 5 and basically be a bigger, more offensively versatile Tucker but not the extreme makeover Turner would be.

All this said, good to see Duncan snapping out of his funk. A splash bros dynamic takes the Heat to the highest levels but can Duncan be counted on or will he shrivel on the greatest stage? Do you depend on shooting or do you shore up size? Heat havent even faced the Giannis/Lopez lineup yet.

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WOOF, Turner and BAM together in a lineup sounds really sexy. specially with Lowry, Jimmy, and Herro.
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Post#356 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:22 pm

Turner has been available at like the last 2 deadlines I believe but I don’t think we have the money to match this season
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Post#357 » by Wiltside » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:11 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Turner has been available at like the last 2 deadlines I believe but I don’t think we have the money to match this season


Not without Duncan we don’t. So yeah, depends on if he can be dealt or not.
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Post#358 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:17 pm

Wiltside wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Turner has been available at like the last 2 deadlines I believe but I don’t think we have the money to match this season


Not without Duncan we don’t. So yeah, depends on if he can be dealt or not.


Don’t think he can until March. Looks like are acquisitions this year will be Dipo returning and something on the buyout market
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Post#359 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:17 am

I don't think Spo wants to play drop defense so Turner is a no go.

Also Bam hates the guy, like personally.

Also they love Duncan.

We should look for a big SF/PF wing that plays for a bad team, is hitting outside shots, can defend, and makes little money. that's the type of move we might make.
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Post#360 » by carnageta » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:37 pm

The Celtics, Hawks, Bucks, Pacers and Raptors aren't even in the top 8 in the East right now. I suspect Washington and Cleveland to lose traction as the season carries on, but boy oh boy is the eastern conference looking packed right now.

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