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GT #15 Celtics @ Cavaliers, 15 November 2021, 7:00 PM ET

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Post#1 » by ducler » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 pm

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Post#2 » by Jorgeglez7 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:44 pm

Don't have any bad feelings against any team, but I hate most of Celtics fans and I really felt disrespected listening to the Celtics feed last Game.

Also, they are potential direct rivals and winning Will help us getting space in the board.

Gotta bring the pain.
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Post#3 » by SaiCLE » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:30 pm

Allen out tonight due to illness
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Post#4 » by cavs4872 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:16 am

We've overachieved due to our massive frontcourt. Will be interesting without Jarrett.
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Post#5 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:21 am

I know that Horford's advanced numbers are good on the defensive end this season, but he really looks like he lost a step or two.
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Post#6 » by El Hespiritu » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:21 am

First RR starting lineup?

Took a while but eventually happened.

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Post#7 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:24 am

SaiCLE wrote:Allen out tonight due to illness


Taco's getting real minutes in the 1st quarter and I'm pacing around my house like the robot from Lost in Space.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#8 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:42 am

It's so weird to have three three-point shooters on the court in the same lineup.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:33 am

I feel like we get zero benefit from the officials when we play at home.
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Post#10 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:01 am

I know we're down several players, but I have no idea what Bickerstaff is doing in terms of tonight's rotations. Guys are playing well and getting yanked off the floor quickly. Guys are clearly out there gassed and he's letting them die on the vine.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#11 » by KuruptedCav » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:39 am

JBB always has a vision of what he wants to see. When it happens, it looks smart, and when it doesn’t, tonight and awkward. Like the person who scripts out their meeting and then goes deer in the headlights when we go off script five minutes in.

It was nice to see Mobley be human. Dude has been so good, I’m glad to see an 0-11 to learn from, and glad to see he still rebounded, assisted, and played a high level of defense even with his shots going on. It was a solid character check.

With Allen, Love, Markkanen, & Sexton out, I wasn’t expecting the game to be as close as it was. Onward!


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Post#12 » by Revenged25 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:11 am

KuruptedCav wrote:JBB always has a vision of what he wants to see. When it happens, it looks smart, and when it doesn’t, tonight and awkward. Like the person who scripts out their meeting and then goes deer in the headlights when we go off script five minutes in.

It was nice to see Mobley be human. Dude has been so good, I’m glad to see an 0-11 to learn from, and glad to see he still rebounded, assisted, and played a high level of defense even with his shots going on. It was a solid character check.

With Allen, Love, Markkanen, & Sexton out, I wasn’t expecting the game to be as close as it was. Onward!


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It'd be one thing if the dude was cocky about his performance but he's been nothing but humble and knowing he needs to continue to improve. He didn't need an 0-11 performance to learn from.
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Post#13 » by JonFromVA » Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:29 am

Well this sure won't convince him he needs to play C ... I was hoping we would start Tacko so Evan could stay put at PF.
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Post#14 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:21 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Well this sure won't convince him he needs to play C ... I was hoping we would start Tacko so Evan could stay put at PF.


Tacko played real minute last night in both halves. What was really clear was that Bickerstaff was terrified of playing him against Horford. Every time Horford checked in, Tacko sat down despite the fact he and the team were playing pretty well.
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Post#15 » by KuruptedCav » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:38 pm

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KuruptedCav wrote:JBB always has a vision of what he wants to see. When it happens, it looks smart, and when it doesn’t, tonight and awkward. Like the person who scripts out their meeting and then goes deer in the headlights when we go off script five minutes in.

It was nice to see Mobley be human. Dude has been so good, I’m glad to see an 0-11 to learn from, and glad to see he still rebounded, assisted, and played a high level of defense even with his shots going on. It was a solid character check.

With Allen, Love, Markkanen, & Sexton out, I wasn’t expecting the game to be as close as it was. Onward!


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It'd be one thing if the dude was cocky about his performance but he's been nothing but humble and knowing he needs to continue to improve. He didn't need an 0-11 performance to learn from.

Sure, but just because you don’t need, earn, or deserve a lesson doesn’t mean you cannot learn from it. I’d wager that he’s never had a shooting day like that in his life… and won’t again.


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Post#16 » by yoyoboy » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:43 pm

If Mobley is out for extended time, I wouldn’t be opposed to tanking the season.
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Post#17 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:24 pm

yoyoboy wrote:If Mobley is out for extended time, I wouldn’t be opposed to tanking the season.


I wouldn't actively tank, but if you start to see a domino effect in terms of losses piling up, the point margins getting out of hand, and Rubio wanting out, then they may not have many options. I personally, still want to see the team playing the right way every night (e.g., OKC & Memphis). Mobley isn't the only young guy who needs to develop and the clock is ticking on rookie deals for guys like Garland, Okoro, and Windler.
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Post#18 » by JonFromVA » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:15 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Well this sure won't convince him he needs to play C ... I was hoping we would start Tacko so Evan could stay put at PF.


Tacko played real minute last night in both halves. What was really clear was that Bickerstaff was terrified of playing him against Horford. Every time Horford checked in, Tacko sat down despite the fact he and the team were playing pretty well.


I suppose he didn't like the idea of Tacko having to chase Horford out to the 3pt line, but Horford still exploited our bigs collapsing in the paint to help and shot 3 for 4 because Mobley and Wade weren't near him and nobody helped them.
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Post#19 » by JonFromVA » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:30 pm

Tanking tends to happen whether we want it to or not, but if the Cavs have something good rolling I'd keep it rolling rather than let our young players lapse back in to losing habits. If Ricky does want to be traded, that'll be a major blow. Garland does not look ready to carry this time for an extended time or period.
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Post#20 » by toooskies » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:44 pm

We have some excuses for the next hard part of the schedule we're entering with Brooklyn/GS/Brooklyn/Phoenix/(Orlando)/Dallas/Miami/Washington/Utah/Milwaukee/Chicago. We're going to struggle in that stretch if Mobley and Sexton are out and Love/Markkanen don't come back at 100% from COVID.

Sad that Mobley is likely going to be out against KD.

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