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You can hear it in his voice that he gets real emotional. Good guy, class act. Good for him that he had this game - and good for us.
He gives much more than he takes. No matter his flaws and limitations, hats off for him today.
He gives much more than he takes. No matter his flaws and limitations, hats off for him today.
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It was great to see him have a career night. Everything was falling for him, and he played within the system. Can't ask for more from a bench player.
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One thing for sure....
He leads the league in goofy GIFs
He leads the league in goofy GIFs
What ? Me Worry ?
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King4Day wrote:I wasn't aware Frank had offers from other teams. He comments on it here:
Definitely gained respect for him after listening to it. He doesn’t seem entitled like many or most NBA players.
He’s played well so far this season. Even defensively he’s looked the best this season than he’s done in years past with the Suns.
Definitely a good player to have on the vet min as the 3rd backup big.
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Valley of the Suns (@ValleyoftheSuns) Tweeted:
Making the case for @Suns Frank Kaminsky to be a Most Improved Player of the Year finalist. https://t.co/2lBCwHcNbt ?s=20
Making the case for @Suns Frank Kaminsky to be a Most Improved Player of the Year finalist. https://t.co/2lBCwHcNbt ?s=20
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Ghost of Kleine wrote:Valley of the Suns (@ValleyoftheSuns) Tweeted:
Making the case for @Suns Frank Kaminsky to be a Most Improved Player of the Year finalist. https://t.co/2lBCwHcNbt ?s=20
Would be the feel-good story of the year if he's in the mix ... he would have to take minutes away from McGee and/or Ayton.
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bigfoot wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Valley of the Suns (@ValleyoftheSuns) Tweeted:
Making the case for @Suns Frank Kaminsky to be a Most Improved Player of the Year finalist. https://t.co/2lBCwHcNbt ?s=20
Would be the feel-good story of the year if he's in the mix ... he would have to take minutes away from McGee and/or Ayton.
Very true!
But the tank would deserve it IF it weren't based partially on minutes played. I'd love the message that it'd send, to always be ready. And that it's about effort and opportunity that even bench players and vet minimum players can stand out if they continue working on their craft and staying diligent.
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Ghost of Kleine wrote:bigfoot wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Valley of the Suns (@ValleyoftheSuns) Tweeted:
Making the case for @Suns Frank Kaminsky to be a Most Improved Player of the Year finalist. https://t.co/2lBCwHcNbt ?s=20
Would be the feel-good story of the year if he's in the mix ... he would have to take minutes away from McGee and/or Ayton.
Very true!
But the tank would deserve it IF it weren't based partially on minutes played. I'd love the message that it'd send, to always be ready. And that it's about effort and opportunity that even bench players and vet minimum players can stand out if they continue working on their craft and staying diligent.
Even though I had the thought, stories about this after 3 good games is a little silly. That blog is kind of weird. They come up with the most hot take stories on small sample size so fast. Kind of like Sidery's cherry picked stat tweets.
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bwgood77 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:bigfoot wrote:
Would be the feel-good story of the year if he's in the mix ... he would have to take minutes away from McGee and/or Ayton.
Very true!
But the tank would deserve it IF it weren't based partially on minutes played. I'd love the message that it'd send, to always be ready. And that it's about effort and opportunity that even bench players and vet minimum players can stand out if they continue working on their craft and staying diligent.
Even though I had the thought, stories about this after 3 good games is a little silly. That blog is kind of weird. They come up with the most hot take stories on small sample size so fast. Kind of like Sidery's cherry picked stat tweets.
Low end entertainment for slow periods though......
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bhawk wrote:Walt_Uoob wrote:I really think he's way better than that. Remember Damian Jones? Remember Marquise Chriss? Remember Pat Burke? Remember Daniel Santiago? Remember when young floundering versions of Robin Lopez and Alex Len were our STARTERS!? Kaminsky gets way too much crap around here for being a surprisingly serviceable backup for his pay grade. I'm not exactly pumped to see him check into a game but I'm sure as hell glad it's him instead of some totally lost foul machine.AtheJ415 wrote:Just an absolute, colossal failure by the org as a whole. He's unplayable, not just in the finals but in most of the regular season for all but about 1 month of his time in Phoenix. Knowing the plays is a garbage reason. Get someone with upside and teach them the plays. He can't defend any position and has been living off his shooting reputation since college.
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Agree. Frank is better than unplayable. He arguably is outplaying Ayton. He did last night with the career 31 pts.
Now how do we re-sign him is the question? Is he worth the max? I kid, I kid...
Frank is literally the worst player in the NBA 2 of the last 3 seasons on this team. I'm glad he's playing well now, but to pretend like his entire tenure here other than about 2 weeks for all of the last 2 seasons was anything other than an unmitigated disaster is delusional.
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AtheJ415 wrote:bhawk wrote:Walt_Uoob wrote:I really think he's way better than that. Remember Damian Jones? Remember Marquise Chriss? Remember Pat Burke? Remember Daniel Santiago? Remember when young floundering versions of Robin Lopez and Alex Len were our STARTERS!? Kaminsky gets way too much crap around here for being a surprisingly serviceable backup for his pay grade. I'm not exactly pumped to see him check into a game but I'm sure as hell glad it's him instead of some totally lost foul machine.
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Agree. Frank is better than unplayable. He arguably is outplaying Ayton. He did last night with the career 31 pts.
Now how do we re-sign him is the question? Is he worth the max? I kid, I kid...
Frank is literally the worst player in the NBA 2 of the last 3 seasons on this team. I'm glad he's playing well now, but to pretend like his entire tenure here other than about 2 weeks for all of the last 2 seasons was anything other than an unmitigated disaster is delusional.
How in the world the worst player in the NBA could be someone that has been in the rotation on two different NBA teams during all his seven years in the league?
Players who are really terrible do not play in the league more than a couple seasons, three at most if some franchise believe yet in his "potential".
Worst player in the league for the last couple of years has to be some unknown who did not play at all or just a few minutes here and there and now is not in the league anymore.
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AtheJ415 wrote:bhawk wrote:Walt_Uoob wrote:I really think he's way better than that. Remember Damian Jones? Remember Marquise Chriss? Remember Pat Burke? Remember Daniel Santiago? Remember when young floundering versions of Robin Lopez and Alex Len were our STARTERS!? Kaminsky gets way too much crap around here for being a surprisingly serviceable backup for his pay grade. I'm not exactly pumped to see him check into a game but I'm sure as hell glad it's him instead of some totally lost foul machine.
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Agree. Frank is better than unplayable. He arguably is outplaying Ayton. He did last night with the career 31 pts.
Now how do we re-sign him is the question? Is he worth the max? I kid, I kid...
Frank is literally the worst player in the NBA 2 of the last 3 seasons on this team. I'm glad he's playing well now, but to pretend like his entire tenure here other than about 2 weeks for all of the last 2 seasons was anything other than an unmitigated disaster is delusional.
You've said this a lot, but there are a lot of worse players in the NBA. I would never say he is outplaying Ayton or he is worthy of major minutes or he is any good defensively, but he has a pretty solid offensive IQ, range, can pass, score inside, hit the 3, etc. He is definitely a fairly solid 3rd stringer. But any of the talk of "We are just as good with McGee/Frank" as Ayton is nonsense and trying to compare stats when defenses are not going to play to stop Kaminsky is ridiculous for others to say as well.
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Saberestar wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:bhawk wrote:
Agree. Frank is better than unplayable. He arguably is outplaying Ayton. He did last night with the career 31 pts.
Now how do we re-sign him is the question? Is he worth the max? I kid, I kid...
Frank is literally the worst player in the NBA 2 of the last 3 seasons on this team. I'm glad he's playing well now, but to pretend like his entire tenure here other than about 2 weeks for all of the last 2 seasons was anything other than an unmitigated disaster is delusional.
How in the world the worst player in the NBA could be someone that has been in the rotation on two different NBA teams during all his seven years in the league?
Players who are really terrible do not play in the league more than a couple seasons, three at most if some franchise believe yet in his "potential".
Worst player in the league for the last couple of years has to be some unknown who did not play at all or just a few minutes here and there and now is not in the league anymore.
Yeah, even last year he wasn't the worst player on our team. Damian Jones was definitely worse. Heck, we've probably had multiple worse players every year before that for awhile.
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Looks like Frank could be out for a long time with that stress fracture. Feel bad for him after the hot start.
Suns might have to release him to open up a roster spot.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Looks like Frank could be out for a long time with that stress fracture. Feel bad for him after the hot start.
Suns might have to release him to open up a roster spot.
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Seems like the kind of guy we'd be happy to keep brining back at the minimum. Serviceable 3rd guy with size and skill. Loved by the team.
A bit of a udonis haslem situation (obvs Frank being a different kind of dude)
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Looks like Frank could be out for a long time with that stress fracture. Feel bad for him after the hot start.
Suns might have to release him to open up a roster spot.
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Don't we have a roster spot open?
Not that we might not eventually need another one....with our two athletic backup Cs out.
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I wonder if this will get us to reconsider the Thad Young trade (again). Good timing since we should hopefully have a good look at him in today's game
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bwgood77 wrote:Saberestar wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:
Frank is literally the worst player in the NBA 2 of the last 3 seasons on this team. I'm glad he's playing well now, but to pretend like his entire tenure here other than about 2 weeks for all of the last 2 seasons was anything other than an unmitigated disaster is delusional.
How in the world the worst player in the NBA could be someone that has been in the rotation on two different NBA teams during all his seven years in the league?
Players who are really terrible do not play in the league more than a couple seasons, three at most if some franchise believe yet in his "potential".
Worst player in the league for the last couple of years has to be some unknown who did not play at all or just a few minutes here and there and now is not in the league anymore.
Yeah, even last year he wasn't the worst player on our team. Damian Jones was definitely worse. Heck, we've probably had multiple worse players every year before that for awhile.
Not true whatsoever
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bwgood77 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:bhawk wrote:
Agree. Frank is better than unplayable. He arguably is outplaying Ayton. He did last night with the career 31 pts.
Now how do we re-sign him is the question? Is he worth the max? I kid, I kid...
Frank is literally the worst player in the NBA 2 of the last 3 seasons on this team. I'm glad he's playing well now, but to pretend like his entire tenure here other than about 2 weeks for all of the last 2 seasons was anything other than an unmitigated disaster is delusional.
You've said this a lot, but there are a lot of worse players in the NBA. I would never say he is outplaying Ayton or he is worthy of major minutes or he is any good defensively, but he has a pretty solid offensive IQ, range, can pass, score inside, hit the 3, etc. He is definitely a fairly solid 3rd stringer. But any of the talk of "We are just as good with McGee/Frank" as Ayton is nonsense and trying to compare stats when defenses are not going to play to stop Kaminsky is ridiculous for others to say as well.
Name the worse players from Frank's first year on the Suns. He was absolutely dreadful as a shooter from all levels and completely useless defensively. His 2nd year he was still useless defensively but shot well for a few weeks. He was then cut by us and the Hornets and likely would not still be in the NBA if we hadn't brought him back simply because he knew the playbook. Frank was a supposed shooter who put up splits of 45, 33, 67. He had a -0.5 BPM and a VORP that was barely positive despite being on the 2nd best team in basketball. He was so bad that his VORP is already as good this season alone in 9 games of play because he was hot to start this year.
The only basketball-related positive anybody could objectively say about Frank on the whole for his first 2 seasons with us was that he gets along with the other players. That is it. And at least with raw players who typically sit at the end of the bench they are capable of being big and athletic. He was useless initially here and still is when not shooting well. His only way to have a positive impact on this team is to start shooting like he did in college.