Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I don't think Spo wants to play drop defense so Turner is a no go.

Also Bam hates the guy, like personally.

Also they love Duncan.

We should look for a big SF/PF wing that plays for a bad team, is hitting outside shots, can defend, and makes little money. that's the type of move we might make.

Harrison Barnes, unfortunately we have no way of getting him this season

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So if we’re the 1st seed by the time it’s time to vote for all stars are we getting Jimmy Bam AND Tyler?!

[SerialChiller]

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[BenoUdrihFTL]

So if we’re the 1st seed by the time it’s time to vote for all stars are we getting Jimmy Bam AND Tyler?!

Tyler seems like a stretch, 6th men just do not get named to allstar teams. Not even Manu Ginobli (his 2 allstar seasons came when he started 74 and 79 games). Only 6th men in recent decades I'm aware of that did make the team were Ricky Pierce in 1991 and Chris Gatling in 1997 after Miami let him walk lol

But regardless of allstar status, I think it's fair to say that Herro has made a leap. 14 games seems a bit more than just a hot streak at this point, and tho the volume of his current 22/6/4 statline (on above league average efficiency) might be hard to maintain as Dipo comes back and Lowry starts shooting more, the dude has definitely demonstrated the ability to be a legit 3-level scorer in this league

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So if we’re the 1st seed by the time it’s time to vote for all stars are we getting Jimmy Bam AND Tyler?!

Tyler seems like a stretch, 6th men just do not get named to allstar teams. Not even Manu Ginobli (his 2 allstar seasons came when he started 74 and 79 games). Only 6th men in recent decades I'm aware of that did make the team were Ricky Pierce in 1991 and Chris Gatling in 1997 after Miami let him walk lol

But regardless of allstar status, I think it's fair to say that Herro has made a leap. 14 games seems a bit more than just a hot streak at this point, and tho the volume of his current 22/6/4 statline (on above league average efficiency) might be hard to maintain as Dipo comes back and Lowry starts shooting more, the dude has definitely demonstrated the ability to be a legit 3-level scorer in this league

Yea that’s definitely a stretch from what you just said. We’ve known Tyler had an elite scoring package since his rookie season, he finally had a chance to build on it this summer and it shows

[QUIZ]

Robert Covington is having a down year and Portland sucks. I wonder if we could steal him away from them. He cost them two firsts so it may cost us at least one? We have our first this year, we gave the Rockets a pick swap tho so the pick will be whatever is worse between ours, the Nets, and the Rockets.

Also I don’t think a trade involving that pick could be done until draft night

[insfo]

Robert Covington is having a down year and Portland sucks. I wonder if we could steal him away from them. He cost them two firsts so it may cost us at least one? We have our first this year, we gave the Rockets a pick swap tho so the pick will be whatever is worse between ours, the Nets, and the Rockets.

Also I don’t think a trade involving that pick could be done until draft night

So you propose a deal and then shoot it down youself?

[QUIZ]

Robert Covington is having a down year and Portland sucks. I wonder if we could steal him away from them. He cost them two firsts so it may cost us at least one? We have our first this year, we gave the Rockets a pick swap tho so the pick will be whatever is worse between ours, the Nets, and the Rockets.

Also I don’t think a trade involving that pick could be done until draft night

So you propose a deal and then shoot it down youself?

Lol we could trade the 2027 pick I just don’t want to

Either that or we could just ride with PJ this year and then on draft night try and swipe Robert Covington

[Hallstar]

So if we’re the 1st seed by the time it’s time to vote for all stars are we getting Jimmy Bam AND Tyler?!

Tyler seems like a stretch, 6th men just do not get named to allstar teams. Not even Manu Ginobli (his 2 allstar seasons came when he started 74 and 79 games). Only 6th men in recent decades I'm aware of that did make the team were Ricky Pierce in 1991 and Chris Gatling in 1997 after Miami let him walk lol

But regardless of allstar status, I think it's fair to say that Herro has made a leap. 14 games seems a bit more than just a hot streak at this point, and tho the volume of his current 22/6/4 statline (on above league average efficiency) might be hard to maintain as Dipo comes back and Lowry starts shooting more, the dude has definitely demonstrated the ability to be a legit 3-level scorer in this league

I would argue he's playing at an allstar level, but your argument is fair enough.

I hope this opens the eyes of the Tyler doesn't want to/need to start crowd though. We can talk about "team" all we want but contracts and accolades come with certain expectations. At some point a pat on the back and atta boy ain't gonna be enough.

[greg4012]

So if we’re the 1st seed by the time it’s time to vote for all stars are we getting Jimmy Bam AND Tyler?!

Tyler seems like a stretch, 6th men just do not get named to allstar teams. Not even Manu Ginobli (his 2 allstar seasons came when he started 74 and 79 games). Only 6th men in recent decades I'm aware of that did make the team were Ricky Pierce in 1991 and Chris Gatling in 1997 after Miami let him walk lol

But regardless of allstar status, I think it's fair to say that Herro has made a leap. 14 games seems a bit more than just a hot streak at this point, and tho the volume of his current 22/6/4 statline (on above league average efficiency) might be hard to maintain as Dipo comes back and Lowry starts shooting more, the dude has definitely demonstrated the ability to be a legit 3-level scorer in this league

I would argue he's playing at an allstar level, but your argument is fair enough.

I hope this opens the eyes of the Tyler doesn't want to/need to start crowd though. We can talk about "team" all we want but contracts and accolades come with certain expectations. At some point a pat on the back and atta boy ain't gonna be enough.

Why are fans eager to create drama out of this Tyler situation?

I would love if Tyler made an all-star game. Let's not go grasping at straws to try to invent drama though. Last year Bam averaged more total offensive output (scoring + assists) than Tyler currently AND was an All-NBA defender and didn't make the All-Star game. Then consider other guys who missed the cut like Trae Young (25 & 9), Middleton (20 & 5 plus D), Devin Booker (24 & 4), Deaaron Fox (24 & 9), Demar Derozan, Brandon Ingram, and the list goes on.

One step at a time. Tyler is on a great trajectory and I promise no one in the Heat organization currently sees Tyler as a career 6th man.

[twix2500]

Tyler seems like a stretch, 6th men just do not get named to allstar teams. Not even Manu Ginobli (his 2 allstar seasons came when he started 74 and 79 games). Only 6th men in recent decades I'm aware of that did make the team were Ricky Pierce in 1991 and Chris Gatling in 1997 after Miami let him walk lol

But regardless of allstar status, I think it's fair to say that Herro has made a leap. 14 games seems a bit more than just a hot streak at this point, and tho the volume of his current 22/6/4 statline (on above league average efficiency) might be hard to maintain as Dipo comes back and Lowry starts shooting more, the dude has definitely demonstrated the ability to be a legit 3-level scorer in this league

I would argue he's playing at an allstar level, but your argument is fair enough.

I hope this opens the eyes of the Tyler doesn't want to/need to start crowd though. We can talk about "team" all we want but contracts and accolades come with certain expectations. At some point a pat on the back and atta boy ain't gonna be enough.

Why are fans eager to create drama out of this Tyler situation?

I would love if Tyler made an all-star game. Let's not go grasping at straws to try to invent drama though. Last year Bam averaged more total offensive output (scoring + assists) than Tyler currently AND was an All-NBA defender and didn't make the All-Star game. Then consider other guys who missed the cut like Trae Young (25 & 9), Middleton (20 & 5 plus D), Devin Booker (24 & 4), Deaaron Fox (24 & 9), Demar Derozan, Brandon Ingram, and the list goes on.

One step at a time. Tyler is on a great trajectory and I promise no one in the Heat organization currently sees Tyler as a career 6th man.

It will only get worse greg. Herro has a Boy band fan base. Which is a good thing, but can get annoying. Fans are going to go to the extreme high and low on Herro. And their are gonna be fans who primary just want Herro to get acknowledge and not have much care for the team. Its only the first 15 games of the season mid November.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Robert Covington is having a down year and Portland sucks. I wonder if we could steal him away from them. He cost them two firsts so it may cost us at least one? We have our first this year, we gave the Rockets a pick swap tho so the pick will be whatever is worse between ours, the Nets, and the Rockets.

Also I don’t think a trade involving that pick could be done until draft night

Trades will be near impossible to make this year unless it’s for a salary combining of Vincent and Okpala. The salary cap dynamics would not allow for us to take on a salary like Covington’s and if it did the luxury tax ramifications would highly punitive. We will sign a player in the buyout market

[twix2500]

Heat are top 5 in offense and defense ratings. That's pretty damn good. Especially that Dipo still is waiting in the wings. And the whole Jimmy is too old and is gonna decline panic

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[AirP.]

Current ORTG-DRTG data.

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Name            ORtg DRtg ORtg-DRtg
----            ---- ---- ---------
Jimmy Butler    130  102         28
Dewayne Dedmon  123  101         22
P.J. Tucker     122  106         16
Udonis Haslem   117  102         15
Bam Adebayo     112  100         12
Max Strus       112  106          6
Caleb Martin    106  101          5
Kyle Lowry      109  105          4
Tyler Herro     108  107          1
Duncan Robinson 105  106         -1
Markieff Morris 105  109         -4
Gabe Vincent    102  108         -6
Omer Yurtseven  98   106         -8
KZ Okpala       97   106         -9
Marcus Garrett  93   113        -20

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’d love Covington over Morris, I’ve heard he’s fallen off and is garbage this year though. Any truth to this?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Heat are top 5 in offense and defense ratings. That's pretty damn good. Especially that Dipo still is waiting in the wings. And the whole Jimmy is too old and is gonna decline panic

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7th defense I think but your point still stands. We let our foot off the gas a few games defensively for whatever reason

[Hallstar]

Tyler seems like a stretch, 6th men just do not get named to allstar teams. Not even Manu Ginobli (his 2 allstar seasons came when he started 74 and 79 games). Only 6th men in recent decades I'm aware of that did make the team were Ricky Pierce in 1991 and Chris Gatling in 1997 after Miami let him walk lol

But regardless of allstar status, I think it's fair to say that Herro has made a leap. 14 games seems a bit more than just a hot streak at this point, and tho the volume of his current 22/6/4 statline (on above league average efficiency) might be hard to maintain as Dipo comes back and Lowry starts shooting more, the dude has definitely demonstrated the ability to be a legit 3-level scorer in this league

I would argue he's playing at an allstar level, but your argument is fair enough.

I hope this opens the eyes of the Tyler doesn't want to/need to start crowd though. We can talk about "team" all we want but contracts and accolades come with certain expectations. At some point a pat on the back and atta boy ain't gonna be enough.

Why are fans eager to create drama out of this Tyler situation?

I would love if Tyler made an all-star game. Let's not go grasping at straws to try to invent drama though. Last year Bam averaged more total offensive output (scoring + assists) than Tyler currently AND was an All-NBA defender and didn't make the All-Star game. Then consider other guys who missed the cut like Trae Young (25 & 9), Middleton (20 & 5 plus D), Devin Booker (24 & 4), Deaaron Fox (24 & 9), Demar Derozan, Brandon Ingram, and the list goes on.

One step at a time. Tyler is on a great trajectory and I promise no one in the Heat organization currently sees Tyler as a career 6th man.

It's not about drama. It's about being realistic about what your status is as a player and what opportunities then become available.

People need to stop acting like basketball stops on the court. That's how some fans get shocked in the off-season by obvious news.

[eddieheatfan]

john wall to the heat? yes

[Heat_Down_Under]

john wall to the heat? yes

Would love it. But highly doubt he gives up all that money to play off the bench behind Lowry for the minimum.

[eddieheatfan]

john wall to the heat? yes

Would love it. But highly doubt he gives up all that money to play off the bench behind Lowry for the minimum.

stranger things have had happening. if this happens the bench is going to be much deeper and this team will just go beyond the second round.

my excitement for this team would go through the roof