The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread - New Thread Soon Part 2

[LukaTheGOAT]

What happened to Reeves?

He's hurt

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[GSP]

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woooow @ the 2nd part........thats a stat

[Mos_Heat]

THT development is pretty inspiring and might prolong their title window

[nzahir]

THT development is pretty inspiring and might prolong their title window

I don't think it matters if we have Russ honestly

If THT is for real and hes legit this good now, we really **** up by not getting Hield

Maybe go KCP and Trez for Hield instead of Kuzma. Throw in a couple 2nds if need be

AC, Hield, Bron, Kuzma, AD
Nunn, THT, Ariza?, Melo, Dwight

Reeves, DJ, rookie? Baze? Ellington? Don't think Monk is here

[Slava]

THT development is pretty inspiring and might prolong their title window

I don't think it matters if we have Russ honestly

If THT is for real and hes legit this good now, we really **** up by not getting Hield

Maybe go KCP and Trez for Hield instead of Kuzma. Throw in a couple 2nds if need be

AC, Hield, Bron, Kuzma, AD
Nunn, THT, Ariza?, Melo, Dwight

Reeves, DJ, rookie? Baze? Ellington? Don't think Monk is here

Hield is another defensive turnstile of the same mold as Russ. He just happens to shoot at a higher volume and percentage. Of those alternatives, I'd rather keep KCP and Kuzma.

[Mos_Heat]

THT development is pretty inspiring and might prolong their title window

I don't think it matters if we have Russ honestly

If THT is for real and hes legit this good now, we really **** up by not getting Hield

Maybe go KCP and Trez for Hield instead of Kuzma. Throw in a couple 2nds if need be

AC, Hield, Bron, Kuzma, AD
Nunn, THT, Ariza?, Melo, Dwight

Reeves, DJ, rookie? Baze? Ellington? Don't think Monk is here

If THT this good, they will unload Westbrook in the summer or during the next season

Also, KCP is better than Hield

[Slava]

Other than the 3 point volume and accuracy, this does not seem unsustainable from THT. He's always been crafty when finishing around the basket, so once he gains the wisdom to understand team defensive schemes, he'll cement himself as the consistent third starter around LeBron and AD, if he hasn't already done so.

[dcstanley]

Through three games, THT looks somewhere between Jordan Poole and Tyler Herro.

[homecourtloss]

In many ways, that was the best game the Lakers have played and gives reasons for optimism if James comes back playing like James. With AD and the starters on, they didn’t look hopeless and in fact the starters outscored the Bucks’ starters. The DAJ and Dwight Howard lineups were awful (would be nice to have a spacing big like Gasol or Dedmon, wouldn’t it?) but I think these lineups will be better with James

Bucks had most of their players back, Giannis dominated, and sill the Lakers had a chance to win it. They rebounded defensively well, didn’t turn it over (Westbrook’s better games), THT looks quite good, they came out and played well in the third quarter, and they converted their usual trash long twos to three point attempts but did t make them. Westbrook and Rondo created opportunities for good shooters in Ellington and Monk, but they went 2-14 (12 of these were easy catch and shoots) on threes (Monk 1-5 on open threes, 0-2 on wide open; Ellington 1-6 open, 0-1 wide open).

[nzahir]

Other than the 3 point volume and accuracy, this does not seem unsustainable from THT. He's always been crafty when finishing around the basket, so once he gains the wisdom to understand team defensive schemes, he'll cement himself as the consistent third starter around LeBron and AD, if he hasn't already done so.

So for now we would go

Russ, Ellington, THT, Bron, AD?

I don't see the fit with THT, Russ, AD, and Bron honestly

Unless you mean Russ is coming off of the bench

We really need to trade for another 3/4 or even a 4/5 while we wait for Ariza to get back

Another concern is wat if Ariza is jus not good enough anymore

[nzahir]

THT development is pretty inspiring and might prolong their title window

I don't think it matters if we have Russ honestly

If THT is for real and hes legit this good now, we really **** up by not getting Hield

Maybe go KCP and Trez for Hield instead of Kuzma. Throw in a couple 2nds if need be

AC, Hield, Bron, Kuzma, AD
Nunn, THT, Ariza?, Melo, Dwight

Reeves, DJ, rookie? Baze? Ellington? Don't think Monk is here

If THT this good, they will unload Westbrook in the summer or during the next season

Also, KCP is better than Hield

But this means we likely wasted another year of Lebron

Ok well then Kuzma and Trez, whatever it would have been

We did need another offensive sparkplug, but it seems like THT is that guy

[Slava]

Other than the 3 point volume and accuracy, this does not seem unsustainable from THT. He's always been crafty when finishing around the basket, so once he gains the wisdom to understand team defensive schemes, he'll cement himself as the consistent third starter around LeBron and AD, if he hasn't already done so.

So for now we would go

Russ, Ellington, THT, Bron, AD?

I don't see the fit with THT, Russ, AD, and Bron honestly

Unless you mean Russ is coming off of the bench

We really need to trade for another 3/4 or even a 4/5 while we wait for Ariza to get back

Another concern is wat if Ariza is jus not good enough anymore

Yeah, something like that, swap Nunn for Ellington when he returns so we don't start two defensive turnstiles in the backcourt together. There's no hiding from Westbrook and his fit, other than to hope he somehow gets it like he magically did for a few months at the end of last season when dragging Washington to the playoffs.

[Baski]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

[McBubbles]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

Is anyone still on the championship bandwagon at this point? I hopped off when it was clear that nobody in the Lakers organisation gives a single **** about building a well fitting roster. Signing Drummond (who left for nothing), DJ, Westbrook, Melo, not signing Hield, not resigning AC, etc.

[dcstanley]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

Is anyone still on the championship bandwagon at this point? I hopped off when it was clear that nobody in the Lakers organisation gives a single **** about building a well fitting roster. Signing Drummond (who left for nothing), DJ, Westbrook, Melo, not signing Hield, not resigning AC, etc.

Maybe I'm just an optimist but I wouldn't count out a team with a healthy Lebron and AD quite yet... Especially with the field we have now. The worse things are now, the more likely they are to correct course by the deadline. I can't imagine they go into the playoffs with this wing rotation.

[trickshot]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

Is anyone still on the championship bandwagon at this point? I hopped off when it was clear that nobody in the Lakers organisation gives a single **** about building a well fitting roster. Signing Drummond (who left for nothing), DJ, Westbrook, Melo, not signing Hield, not resigning AC, etc.

Maybe I'm just an optimist but I wouldn't count out a team with a healthy Lebron and AD quite yet... Especially with the field we have now. The worse things are now, the more likely they are to correct course by the deadline. I can't imagine they go into the playoffs with this wing rotation.

Imo The roster has too too many matchup kryptonites to be a title winning team. Too many undisciplined guys. Last night was okay but the Bucks are a more stagnant offense compared to the kind of passing offenses that rip them to shreds, the kind they will see in the Western playoffs. In fact I secretly don't even believe they would easily beat a G-league team running the triangle offense. Too many players are undisciplined, lazy or thick as pig sh*t.

Makes the margin for error on the offense impossibly slim. Probably have to shoot 50% from 3 to have a chance against anyone half decent. How likely is that against the kind of top 10 defenses that are in the playoffs? Lebron fixes a lot but can't ignore the problems I saw even before he got injured. I don't even know how they plan on solving Westbrook's defender camping in the paint all game, and good luck if the team was already a top 5 defense without. They had better move him to the bench when that starts.

[Fadeaway_J]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

Is anyone still on the championship bandwagon at this point? I hopped off when it was clear that nobody in the Lakers organisation gives a single **** about building a well fitting roster. Signing Drummond (who left for nothing), DJ, Westbrook, Melo, not signing Hield, not resigning AC, etc.

Maybe I'm just an optimist but I wouldn't count out a team with a healthy Lebron and AD quite yet... Especially with the field we have now. The worse things are now, the more likely they are to correct course by the deadline. I can't imagine they go into the playoffs with this wing rotation.

I keep seeing some variation of this idea, but how exactly do they "course correct"? Everyone other than the three stars, THT, and Nunn is on a minimum contract. THT you don't want to trade, and Nunn is just a rumour at the moment. Their draft capital is severely impacted by recent trades. Bearing in mind that wings are the scarcest commodity in the league right now, I don't see how they made a meaningful improvement with the assets they have right now.

[nzahir]

Is anyone still on the championship bandwagon at this point? I hopped off when it was clear that nobody in the Lakers organisation gives a single **** about building a well fitting roster. Signing Drummond (who left for nothing), DJ, Westbrook, Melo, not signing Hield, not resigning AC, etc.

Maybe I'm just an optimist but I wouldn't count out a team with a healthy Lebron and AD quite yet... Especially with the field we have now. The worse things are now, the more likely they are to correct course by the deadline. I can't imagine they go into the playoffs with this wing rotation.

Imo The roster has too too many matchup kryptonites to be a title winning team. Too many undisciplined guys. Last night was okay but the Bucks are a more stagnant offense compared to the kind of passing offenses that rip them to shreds, the kind they will see in the Western playoffs. In fact I secretly don't even believe they would easily beat a G-league team running the triangle offense. Too many players are undisciplined, lazy or thick as pig sh*t.

Makes the margin for error on the offense impossibly slim. Probably have to shoot 50% from 3 to have a chance against anyone half decent. How likely is that against the kind of top 10 defenses that are in the playoffs? Lebron fixes a lot but can't ignore the problems I saw even before he got injured. I don't even know how they plan on solving Westbrook's defender camping in the paint all game, and good luck if the team was already a top 5 defense without. They had better move himt to the bench when that starts.

I don't even know how Russ would react to coming off the bench and having his minutes heavily slashed. It isn't realistic either, but if Lebron is back we currently could roll out

THT, Ellington, Baze, Bron, AD
Russ, Avery, Monk, Melo, Dwight

The issue is this team is so severely hurt that we can't even figure out our best lineups

Bazemore has really struggled w/o Bron, but when Lebron was there he looked fine

Core should be:

Guards: Russ, Nunn, Ellington, Reaves
Wings: THT, Bazemore, Bron, Ariza, Melo
Bigs: AD, Dwight

DJ and Rondo should just never play. Avery has been getting worse and will be gone as we get guys back

I would move Monk, don't need more low iq guys who play 1 side

I would try to consolidate Monk and 1-2 other guys for a consistent SG starter or a wing

[letskissbro]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

I feel like it’s a similar situation to last year where they probably have enough pieces to at least make a finals run but the formula for success is buried so deep in **** that it’s unlikely that Vogel will make the right rotation cuts.

AD + LeBron + shooters is still unstoppable but most of their minutes together are gonna be mucked up by playing alongside Westbrick, DJ, THT, and Rondo

[homecourtloss]

It's accepted they aren't winning the title this season right? LeBron isnt carrying anyone to a title and these guys do need to be carried.

Is anyone still on the championship bandwagon at this point? I hopped off when it was clear that nobody in the Lakers organisation gives a single **** about building a well fitting roster. Signing Drummond (who left for nothing), DJ, Westbrook, Melo, not signing Hield, not resigning AC, etc.

Lakers not resigning Caruso…still burns me up. Meanwhile, the Warriors made analytics based moves in getting rid of Oubre and not playing Wiseman (whether he’s injured or not). They got smart role players who can shoot in Bjelica and Porter Jr., and Iggy is playing like it’s 2016 again.

Warriors last year with Curry ON court and Wiseman+Oubre OFF court
856 minutes, +16.7 per 100 possessions