OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread
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Q Anon Shaman sentenced to 41 months
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Clyde_Style wrote:Q Anon Shaman sentenced to 41 months
One of the traitors who punched out a Capitol cop also got 41 months.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Q Anon Shaman sentenced to 41 months
One of the traitors who punched out a Capitol cop also got 41 months.
Some of them are now petitioning the courts because they feel they are getting unfair treatment because they are unvaccinated. Duh! It is a confined environment so you don't get to mingle with the general pop if you won't vaccinate and mask up you dirtbags. These people are incredible.
Well, the potential good news is if these guys are getting 3-4 years then the higher they go up the food chain the sentences could be commensurately longer. Stone, Bannon and Flynn should serve life in prison for all of their crimes, but I would find it particularly gratifying if they did time for their roles in January 6th, which were considerable.
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Another covid wave is building. When younger folks among the unvaccinated are dying I hope that is a wake up call to folks to get their shots. Germany is talking about another lockdown. Since America will revolt now if we tried that the only way to stem another wave is vaccinations.
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Clyde_Style wrote:Another covid wave is building. When younger folks among the unvaccinated are dying I hope that is a wake up call to folks to get their shots. Germany is talking about another lockdown. Since America will revolt now if we tried that the only way to stem another wave is vaccinations.
NY just cleared the way for people under 65 without any underlying medical conditions to get booster shots. Getting mine tomorrow.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Another covid wave is building. When younger folks among the unvaccinated are dying I hope that is a wake up call to folks to get their shots. Germany is talking about another lockdown. Since America will revolt now if we tried that the only way to stem another wave is vaccinations.
NY just cleared the way for people under 65 without any underlying medical conditions to get booster shots. Getting mine tomorrow.
Good for you.
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Clyde_Style wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Another covid wave is building. When younger folks among the unvaccinated are dying I hope that is a wake up call to folks to get their shots. Germany is talking about another lockdown. Since America will revolt now if we tried that the only way to stem another wave is vaccinations.
NY just cleared the way for people under 65 without any underlying medical conditions to get booster shots. Getting mine tomorrow.
Good for you.
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I saw part of story Hayes did on MSNBC, I think it was last night, about how DeSantis is pushing through all of these REGULATIONS (that Republicans despise so much) to thwart or overturn local county laws designed to protect Florida residents from the virus.
You should try just walking into a CVS in Miami and slip the pharmacist a C-note. I'm not joking. At least go into a Democrat leaning county and walk into a CVS and see what they say.
You should do a documentary video of your journey through the Florida "black market" looking for a COVID booster shot. That's Academy Award-azz material right there. At the very least, I still have some friends in Philadelphia. We could get it played at the Philadelphia Philm Festival.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
NY just cleared the way for people under 65 without any underlying medical conditions to get booster shots. Getting mine tomorrow.
Good for you.
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I saw part of story Hayes did on MSNBC, I think it was last night, about how DeSantis is pushing through all of these REGULATIONS (that Republicans despise so much) to thwart or overturn local county laws designed to protect Florida residents from the virus.
You should try just walking into a CVS in Miami and slip the pharmacist a C-note. I'm not joking. At least go into a Democrat leaning county and walk into a CVS and see what they say.
You should do a documentary video of your journey through the Florida "black market" looking for a COVID booster shot. That's Academy Award-azz material right there. At the very least, I still have some friends in Philadelphia. We could get it played at the Philadelphia Philm Festival.
I'm giving it until the end of the month. If nothing changes I'll just go to the pharmacy and act like its my first shot. Tired of this BS
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It happened
Booster shots for all adults has been approved
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-expands-eligibility-covid-19-vaccine-boosters
Probably should all be cleared in the next week. As I understand it, FDA acts first, then the CDC weighs in and then they proceed
P.S. just read the CDC will rule on it today so it may be cleared for this weekend
Booster shots for all adults has been approved
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-expands-eligibility-covid-19-vaccine-boosters
Probably should all be cleared in the next week. As I understand it, FDA acts first, then the CDC weighs in and then they proceed
P.S. just read the CDC will rule on it today so it may be cleared for this weekend
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Clyde_Style wrote:It happened
Booster shots for all adults has been approved
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-expands-eligibility-covid-19-vaccine-boosters
Probably should all be cleared in the next week. As I understand it, FDA acts first, then the CDC weighs in and then they proceed
P.S. just read the CDC will rule on it today so it may be cleared for this weekend
Good, I will try to get a booster at the same time my son is getting his second dose of Pfizer in 2 weeks.
If you go by the overweight BMI that places 70% or more of Americans in the high-risk category so already eligible. I guess I could get it based on being a former smoker and used to be overweight but it feels like cheating. My BMI is in normal range and haven't smoked in 5 plus years so I decided to wait for general public approval by CDC.

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K-DOT wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
None of those opaque data tables have any ability to convey co-morbidities. It is hard enough isolate a vaccine as the cause of illness or death, but you're going to want more granular data than this to dig into the issue with any teeth.
I had a really bad reaction to a malaria vaccine once. It sucked. I lost my equilibrium for half a day and was crapping blood. I'd still risk that rather than contract malaria though.
Let's not throw aside government statistics when it hurts the cause. VAERS is The system, the gold standard, we have for reporting vaccine side effects.
The side effects (enlarged hearts, blood clots, prolonged energy loss, etc.) are happening more with the young, so all the statistics shown should not be conflated with old people with comorbidities receiving it.
I would be curious to compare the gene therapy vax with a more tradition CV "dead or weakened virus" variety.
Thing about VAERS is, it's an example of correlation, not causation
When someone reports a side effect, it's correlated with the vaccine, but not proven to be because of the vaccine. It's not scientists doing studies on side effects, it's people reporting things they noticed happening around the same time as the vaccine. So, 8,400 heart attacks in a year-ish sounds pretty bad, but 650,000 people died in 2019 due to heart conditions in the US alone. 8.4 thousand heart attacks would be about 1.2% of a year's worth of heart conditions. Statistically speaking, it's not too outrageous to suggest that you could find 8.4 thousand people who had a heart attack within a few days of getting a vaccine which nearly 80% of US adults have when 1.7 thousand heart attacks happen every day in the US. Same thing with miscarriages, there's roughly 100,000 a year in the US, finding 2,631 that correlated with the vaccine is statistically really probable
It's important to note that VAERS was never meant to be a correct representation of wide-ranging side effects of vaccines, but more so to tell researchers what to look for in actual scientific studies. So when the studies contradict VAERS, it's almost certainly more likely VAERS is wrong
There are side effects to the vaccine that are affecting younger people more yes, but in all, it's within what's to be expected of a vaccine. I'd be more worried about the long term side effects of getting Covid, but that's just me.
Good points. Now, weigh into many of them that VAERS is HEAVILY under reported (many nurses have come out and said this.) The examples all over the world of adverse side effects from the vaccine is overwhelming at this point. I'm not saying the vax doesn't work, or we shouldn't get it, but the Media is overall not talking about the dangers. How can they, they are attached at the hip to the big Pharma companies.
I know 6 people hurt from this vaccine, some in ways I hadn't heard of before. Some had lower energy for months, numb legs and 2 serious cases of Anaphylactic shock. I know of 1 who died though she was old. That concerns me.
It makes the VAERS data seem more believable because I see first hand the side effects. A lot of the statistics coming out now are pointing to the Vax's not working as long as they thought. We are on, what, the 3rd vaccine for many? Because it is mRNA, what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?
Seeing alternative treatments work to great success gives me hope of an alternative to mRNA. (e.g. either the old style dead viral vaccine or what Rogan, Tim Pool or Aaron Rogers took. (And Pool was against the medicine btw, his doctor insisted.)
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Kampuchea wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:It happened
Booster shots for all adults has been approved
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-expands-eligibility-covid-19-vaccine-boosters
Probably should all be cleared in the next week. As I understand it, FDA acts first, then the CDC weighs in and then they proceed
P.S. just read the CDC will rule on it today so it may be cleared for this weekend
Good, I will try to get a booster at the same time my son is getting his second dose of Pfizer in 2 weeks.
If you go by the overweight BMI that places 70% or more of Americans in the high-risk category so already eligible. I guess I could get it based on being a former smoker and used to be overweight but it feels like cheating. My BMI is in normal range and haven't smoked in 5 plus years so I decided to wait for general public approval by CDC.
You might want to mix shots. I got Pfizer and I’m going to get a Moderna booster. Some data indicates mixing gives some added protection.
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ScienceOfLosing wrote:K-DOT wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:
Let's not throw aside government statistics when it hurts the cause. VAERS is The system, the gold standard, we have for reporting vaccine side effects.
The side effects (enlarged hearts, blood clots, prolonged energy loss, etc.) are happening more with the young, so all the statistics shown should not be conflated with old people with comorbidities receiving it.
I would be curious to compare the gene therapy vax with a more tradition CV "dead or weakened virus" variety.
Thing about VAERS is, it's an example of correlation, not causation
When someone reports a side effect, it's correlated with the vaccine, but not proven to be because of the vaccine. It's not scientists doing studies on side effects, it's people reporting things they noticed happening around the same time as the vaccine. So, 8,400 heart attacks in a year-ish sounds pretty bad, but 650,000 people died in 2019 due to heart conditions in the US alone. 8.4 thousand heart attacks would be about 1.2% of a year's worth of heart conditions. Statistically speaking, it's not too outrageous to suggest that you could find 8.4 thousand people who had a heart attack within a few days of getting a vaccine which nearly 80% of US adults have when 1.7 thousand heart attacks happen every day in the US. Same thing with miscarriages, there's roughly 100,000 a year in the US, finding 2,631 that correlated with the vaccine is statistically really probable
It's important to note that VAERS was never meant to be a correct representation of wide-ranging side effects of vaccines, but more so to tell researchers what to look for in actual scientific studies. So when the studies contradict VAERS, it's almost certainly more likely VAERS is wrong
There are side effects to the vaccine that are affecting younger people more yes, but in all, it's within what's to be expected of a vaccine. I'd be more worried about the long term side effects of getting Covid, but that's just me.
Good points. Now, weigh into many of them that VAERS is HEAVILY under reported (many nurses have come out and said this.) The examples all over the world of adverse side effects from the vaccine is overwhelming at this point. I'm not saying the vax doesn't work, or we shouldn't get it, but the Media is overall not talking about the dangers. How can they, they are attached at the hip to the big Pharma companies.
I know 6 people hurt from this vaccine, some in ways I hadn't heard of before. Some had lower energy for months, numb legs and 2 serious cases of Anaphylactic shock. I know of 1 who died though she was old. That concerns me.
It makes the VAERS data seem more believable because I see first hand the side effects. A lot of the statistics coming out now are pointing to the Vax's not working as long as they thought. We are on, what, the 3rd vaccine for many? Because it is mRNA, what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?
Seeing alternative treatments work to great success gives me hope of an alternative to mRNA. (e.g. either the old style dead viral vaccine or what Rogan, Tim Pool or Aaron Rogers took. (And Pool was against the medicine btw, his doctor insisted.)
The mRNA vaccines are specifically designed to stimulate the creation of antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which can lead to COVID-19, Dr. D’Souza said. And once they’ve done their job, they stop.
“When you look at this mRNA vaccine, it’s impossible for it to do anything else,” he said. “It goes into the cell, gives a signal to multiply that same protein and create antibodies, and it makes ‘x’ number of copies, and then it automatically has a stop cycle within the sequence that will make it stop multiplying.”
Simply put, the mRNA has one job, and once it’s complete, it breaks down and leaves your body. Because of this, there is no possibility of a side effect from an mRNA vaccine appearing years down the road, Dr. D’Souza said.
Additionally, while these are the first mRNA vaccines to come to market, the technology is not new. It was not previously used in vaccines because it was costly, and traditional vaccines worked fine, so there was no need to create an mRNA vaccine until now, he said.
https://den.mercer.edu/mercer-researcher-addresses-5-common-concerns-about-covid-19-vaccine-safety/
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ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?
I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years
Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not
Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.
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Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
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K-DOT wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?
I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years
Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not
Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.
What doesn’t compute is trying to use VAERs to make an assertion and when the point made doesn’t fly the response is to essentially undermine the same data by saying it is greatly underreported. That’s talking out both sides of the mouth
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Clyde_Style wrote:K-DOT wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?
I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years
Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not
Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.
What doesn’t compute is trying to use VAERs to make an assertion and when the point made doesn’t fly the response is to essentially undermine the same data by saying it is greatly underreported. That’s talking out both sides of the mouth
It's also a lot of anecdotal evidence based around correlation
The anti-vax and "I'm not anti-vax but" crowd (who are usually just anti-vaxxers who know they'll be thrown out for admitting it, so they present themselves as neutral parties with "serious concerns") take events that happen around the same time as getting the vaccine as 100% caused by the vaccine, even side effects that were never found in scientific studies, like Nicki Minaj's cousins' friend's balls
It's the same as the "vaccines cause autism" crowd's "evidence". People need to learn that correlation =/= causation.
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Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
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K-DOT wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:K-DOT wrote:I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years
Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not
Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.
What doesn’t compute is trying to use VAERs to make an assertion and when the point made doesn’t fly the response is to essentially undermine the same data by saying it is greatly underreported. That’s talking out both sides of the mouth
It's also a lot of anecdotal evidence based around correlation
The anti-vax and "I'm not anti-vax but" crowd (who are usually just anti-vaxxers who know they'll be thrown out for admitting it, so they present themselves as neutral parties with "serious concerns") take events that happen around the same time as getting the vaccine as 100% caused by the vaccine, even side effects that were never found in scientific studies, like Nicki Minaj's cousins' friend's balls
It's the same as the "vaccines cause autism" crowd's "evidence". People need to learn that correlation =/= causation.
I found the half dozen adverse cases of my loved ones to be over the top too. Not credible at all
If this were the case the whole country would overrun with vaccine related deaths. I find these sort of posts couched in these kind of “I’m concerned” constructions to be the least believable ones of all. They elicit the opposite of their intended attempt to gain sympathy
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My Larry David Moment if the Week:
I’m with my PCP for a bi-annual physical. He says, “Looks like you’re up for your booster shot now. SWING BY THE OFFICE BETWEEN 2-3:30 NEXT MONDAY AND I’LL SQUEEZE YOU IN.”
So, the following Monday I “swing by” the office at 2 pm, walk up to the reception desk and tell the witch from hell that I’m here to see Dr. Who for my booster shot. She asks me my name and what time my appointment is for. (You see where this is going?) I tell her that I don’t have an appointment. The doctor told me “to swing by between 2-3:30 and he would squeeze me in.” She then says, “If you don’t have an appointment, you can’t see the doctor” to I respond by saying that “IT WAS MY DOCTOR WHO TOLD ME TO JUST SWING BY AND THAT HE WOULD SQUEEEEEEZE ME IN AND SINCE YOU’RE NOT MY DOCTOR I DONT SEE HOW YOU CAN COMMENT WITHOUT ASKING MY DOCTOR. HE TOLD ME TO SWING BY!
So, I emailed my doctor about the snafu. He wrote back saying that when he said to “swing by”’that didn’t mean that I didn’t have to make an appointment.
So tomorrow, I’m going to swing by the CVS for my booster shot.
I’m with my PCP for a bi-annual physical. He says, “Looks like you’re up for your booster shot now. SWING BY THE OFFICE BETWEEN 2-3:30 NEXT MONDAY AND I’LL SQUEEZE YOU IN.”
So, the following Monday I “swing by” the office at 2 pm, walk up to the reception desk and tell the witch from hell that I’m here to see Dr. Who for my booster shot. She asks me my name and what time my appointment is for. (You see where this is going?) I tell her that I don’t have an appointment. The doctor told me “to swing by between 2-3:30 and he would squeeze me in.” She then says, “If you don’t have an appointment, you can’t see the doctor” to I respond by saying that “IT WAS MY DOCTOR WHO TOLD ME TO JUST SWING BY AND THAT HE WOULD SQUEEEEEEZE ME IN AND SINCE YOU’RE NOT MY DOCTOR I DONT SEE HOW YOU CAN COMMENT WITHOUT ASKING MY DOCTOR. HE TOLD ME TO SWING BY!
So, I emailed my doctor about the snafu. He wrote back saying that when he said to “swing by”’that didn’t mean that I didn’t have to make an appointment.

So tomorrow, I’m going to swing by the CVS for my booster shot.
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Some damn good news. DeJoy is on his way out. Biden just replaced two of the seats on the postal board of governors and reclaimed the majority. They will soon vote out DeJoy.
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Got my booster shot. After my brush with covid 10 days ago I’m pleased to get my shot. Onwards