Xatticus wrote:Skybox wrote:I would happily pile picks on to get a guy we crave as well (especially the DEN and CHI)...main point of this (was):
WHAT DO WE EVEN WANT? we've got every type of player, we just don't know who's good yet? But, what's the player profile?
(then we can start looking for actual players)...
I say a long wing who can really spread the floor, play D, and, to a lesser degree, put the ball on the floor...occasional big-time scoring potential would be a plus, of course...but I'd say our biggest need/want would be that kind of player. 6'7 or 6'8 long wing...Mikael Bridges is likely untouchable and already earning too much for our rebuild, but maybe a Vassel could be had for a significant young player and the DEN pick. (just an example of a better shooting Franz). If we believe in Suggs, Cole might be more valuable as a trade chip than a sixth man...same for Bamba, with Isaac coming back...we'll know a lot more in a few months of play.
Xatticus mentioned a ball handler like Flynn-meaning he doesn't think enough of our 4 combo guards will emerge to provide enough quality depth... Some have mentioned Bagley - but even if he pops, we'll have to pay him to keep him and we've already got bigs with potential...Bagley would be a totally opportunistic grab but you'd have to really think he's got something and you'd be willing to give him PT (even if just to build his value for a sign and trade). Is it basically just big upside at ANY position at this point? (regardless of our existing roster)...maybe.
I'm not really sure which four combo guards you are referring to, but I know that we don't have enough ball handling at this very moment. Our offense dies without at least one of Anthony or Suggs on the floor. I just think we are a much better team at this very moment if all of Harris' minutes are going to someone like Flynn. I think the second unit's production doesn't crater if we just have a competent initiator in the unit.
I love Vassell's game, but I think there is zero chance we can get him. SA knows he is a good one and we don't have anything they want.
The guy I would monitor is SGA. We know that Presti doesn't see SGA as someone to build around or he would already be doing it. I think we probably do have some players that Presti would covet and I would probably be willing to give up a couple protected picks for a bird in the hand. ... I think as time passes, Presti will get antsy about moving SGA as he threatens their chances of getting a Homlgren or Wembanyama.
I meant that our top 4 Guards...Fultz, Suggs, RJ, Cole, MIGHT all be marginalized without the ball in their hands. I say might, but it's a common critique of each of them. I'm not disagreeing with you at all - ballhandling, initiation of the offense are lacking right now...but, if we are needing to add a ball handler, what does it say about the prospects of our existing 4. I think Suggs can be a 2, I think RJ needs to mature his game into a 2, not sure about the other two ever playing so much off-ball. I wasn't anti-Harris going into the season (as a defender, a floor spreader, a vet leader and smart player, as a building back his trade value expiring) but I really don't want to see him on the floor at all anymore - he's just a valuable coupon now for a team that wants to create cap space.
Your last sentence...personally, I would rather have SGA than the #1 or #2 pick in 2022. I hope your take on Presti's vision is correct, I'd empty the storehouse for SGA.
I thought Vassell would be playing more, SAS has some good wings who are relatively young. Thought they might consider a re-alignment, maybe for a Bamba or WCJ+ (I'd say close to equal player value-to date).
