Trade the Wolves your Back Up PF?

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Re: Trade the Wolves your Back Up PF? 

Post#21 » by K_chile22 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:53 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:More of a 5 than a 4 but McLaughlin and Prince for Theis and House? Rockets need a PG bad and have too many bigs.

Yes to this as well.

Good eye on McLaughlin; he’s hard to notice with DLo and Beverley in front of him. McLaughlin isn’t special, but he can competently run an offense and he’s cheap, cheap, cheap (under $2 mil a year, for three years). I’m sure MIN would like to keep him if/when PBev and DLo miss time, but size is a more urgent need, so I think they’d say yes. I wanted to mention that he (and Jarryd Vanderbilt) can’t be traded until January 15.
I think it's December 15th no?

Was also trying to think of a bigger deal with wood going to Charlotte for a package around PJ Washington who goes to Minny for McLaughlin+ something but idk what to do for the something

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Post#22 » by wolves_89 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:51 pm

K_chile22 wrote:More of a 5 than a 4 but McLaughlin and Prince for Theis and House? Rockets need a PG bad and have too many bigs

They also clear room under the tax

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I'd do this for the Wolves. I think Theis would be a great fit in the big rotation with Towns and Reid. A guy like Theis could have a much bigger impact for the Wolves than is obvious since he would be filling a role that is completely absent on Minnesota's current roster. I'm guessing it would quickly become obvious how important it is to have more than 2 competent bigs who weigh over 220lbs on the roster. Improving from last (far behind the 29th team) in the NBA in defensive rebounding % would give the Wolves a chance at the 8-10 spot in the West.
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Re: Trade the Wolves your Back Up PF? 

Post#23 » by Domejandro » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:58 pm

I would rather someone trade us their backup center, in all honesty. Minnesota's biggest weakness is rebounding.
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Post#24 » by shrink » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:16 pm

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shrink wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:More of a 5 than a 4 but McLaughlin and Prince for Theis and House? Rockets need a PG bad and have too many bigs.

Yes to this as well.

Good eye on McLaughlin; he’s hard to notice with DLo and Beverley in front of him. McLaughlin isn’t special, but he can competently run an offense and he’s cheap, cheap, cheap (under $2 mil a year, for three years). I’m sure MIN would like to keep him if/when PBev and DLo miss time, but size is a more urgent need, so I think they’d say yes. I wanted to mention that he (and Jarryd Vanderbilt) can’t be traded until January 15.
I think it's December 15th no?

Was also trying to think of a bigger deal with wood going to Charlotte for a package around PJ Washington who goes to Minny for McLaughlin+ something but idk what to do for the something

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I like that as well.

I believe McLaughlin and Vanderbilt are the rare January 15 pair because they signed so late.
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Post#25 » by shangrila » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:05 am

If Boucher struggles with thiccness and can't hit 3s I don't see much of a point in going after him. We've already got a twig with offensive challenges in Vando.

Guys like Washington and Clarke are interesting but probably cost more than we should or would be willing to pay. I know they've "disappointed" but they're still young enough that their teams will expect some level of compensation for what they COULD be and not just what they are.

Theis would be a good play and financially a deal like Theis+House for Prince works, with a couple of 2nds to balance things out.

I would suggest Tristan Thompson but I think KAT hates him so he's out. Dwight Powell is in a similar mold and might be worth looking into, depending on what Dallas does.

I wonder if the Pacers would be interested in a move. Turner would be the pie in the sky deal that would cost more than we're discussing here but I wonder if Goga would be available.

Finally, I'd throw out Udoka from the Jazz. Might not cost much, especially if we can reduce the tax bill for them, and he's thicc which is exactly what we need.
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Post#26 » by NYG » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:58 am

Godaddycurse wrote:Theis


What is his value right now, you think? He could be a good fit there I think.
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Post#27 » by LAL1947 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:25 am

Domejandro wrote:I would rather someone trade us their backup center, in all honesty. Minnesota's biggest weakness is rebounding.

Any interest in Dwight Powell or WCS?
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Post#28 » by dalton749 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:34 am

shangrila wrote:If Boucher struggles with thiccness and can't hit 3s I don't see much of a point in going after him. We've already got a twig with offensive challenges in Vando.

Guys like Washington and Clarke are interesting but probably cost more than we should or would be willing to pay. I know they've "disappointed" but they're still young enough that their teams will expect some level of compensation for what they COULD be and not just what they are.

Theis would be a good play and financially a deal like Theis+House for Prince works, with a couple of 2nds to balance things out.

I would suggest Tristan Thompson but I think KAT hates him so he's out. Dwight Powell is in a similar mold and might be worth looking into, depending on what Dallas does.

I wonder if the Pacers would be interested in a move. Turner would be the pie in the sky deal that would cost more than we're discussing here but I wonder if Goga would be available.

Finally, I'd throw out Udoka from the Jazz. Might not cost much, especially if we can reduce the tax bill for them, and he's thicc which is exactly what we need.


Boucher hit plenty of threes last year but he had a hand injury to start the season and hasn’t been able to find his place in the rotation. A good part of it is his fault but it’s also because he doesn’t fit on the team anymore.

He needs to play beside a real Center and we don’t have one. He also is a low iq offensive player and we have too much of that on our roster right now so it exacerbates the problem. Toronto needs yuta watanabe playing his minutes because he keeps the ball moving and makes smart plays off ball.

Boucher will still be solid on another team but I’d give him away for a second at this point.
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Post#29 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:14 am

shrink wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
shrink wrote:Yes to this as well.

Good eye on McLaughlin; he’s hard to notice with DLo and Beverley in front of him. McLaughlin isn’t special, but he can competently run an offense and he’s cheap, cheap, cheap (under $2 mil a year, for three years). I’m sure MIN would like to keep him if/when PBev and DLo miss time, but size is a more urgent need, so I think they’d say yes. I wanted to mention that he (and Jarryd Vanderbilt) can’t be traded until January 15.
I think it's December 15th no?

Was also trying to think of a bigger deal with wood going to Charlotte for a package around PJ Washington who goes to Minny for McLaughlin+ something but idk what to do for the something

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I like that as well.

I believe McLaughlin and Vanderbilt are the rare January 15 pair because they signed so late.



It’s not the timing. It’s because they were resigned using Bird Rights as opposed to cap space or an exception.
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Post#30 » by Mamba4Goat » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:33 am

If Indy continues to struggle something around a top 10 protected pick, Bolmaro, and Prince (maybe more?)for Turner is starting to feel like the answer for Minnesota’s big man rotation.
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Post#32 » by shrink » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:02 am

Lots of great answers here!

To clarify, MIN really needs help rebounding. They are last in the NBA in DRB%, by a wide margin. And while they have played well on defense so far, it may be more of a trend than a reality.

They also don’t need a player who wants to score 10+ points a game. As the roster stands right now, they don’t have enough FGA’s for their current players, and Towns often ends up third on the team after games. They need a player who can’t be left uncovered, but who doesn’t demand a lot of shots.
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Post#33 » by Commodor » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:25 am

A guy who probably wouldn’t cost much and has fallen out of the rotation is Juan Toscano Anderson. Kuminga being playable and Bjelica/OPJ playing well has made it really tough for him to find minutes even though he is a fan favorite.

Smart player, solid versatile defense and above average from 3. 38.1% this year and 40% last year.

Problem is his value is probably so low that MIN would not have anything they’d be willing to give up that would interest GSW.
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Post#34 » by azwfan » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:10 am

Commodor wrote:A guy who probably wouldn’t cost much and has fallen out of the rotation is Juan Toscano Anderson. Kuminga being playable and Bjelica/OPJ playing well has made it really tough for him to find minutes even though he is a fan favorite.

Smart player, solid versatile defense and above average from 3. 38.1% this year and 40% last year.

Problem is his value is probably so low that MIN would not have anything they’d be willing to give up that would interest GSW.

I'd rather keep JTA as an insurance policy. He's smart, plays hard, and knows what to do in our offense / defense.

If we make a deal I think we need to use our 1st to combine with one of our deep rotation guys to get a stronger top 9 (whoever that is, cause its changed so often this year).
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Post#36 » by giberish » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:28 am

azwfan wrote:
Commodor wrote:A guy who probably wouldn’t cost much and has fallen out of the rotation is Juan Toscano Anderson. Kuminga being playable and Bjelica/OPJ playing well has made it really tough for him to find minutes even though he is a fan favorite.

Smart player, solid versatile defense and above average from 3. 38.1% this year and 40% last year.

Problem is his value is probably so low that MIN would not have anything they’d be willing to give up that would interest GSW.

I'd rather keep JTA as an insurance policy. He's smart, plays hard, and knows what to do in our offense / defense.

If we make a deal I think we need to use our 1st to combine with one of our deep rotation guys to get a stronger top 9 (whoever that is, cause its changed so often this year).


I don't see GS trading JTA just to deal JTA, but he could be available for a couple of other reasons. Either GS is doing some 1 for 2 (or 2 for 3) deal and needs a spare roster spot. Or there's some other min FA they want for some other reason (perhaps wanting an extra big center option).

Of course while a solid player and a good fit he's probably a tier below what op really wants here.
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Post#37 » by Commodor » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:29 am

giberish wrote:
azwfan wrote:
Commodor wrote:A guy who probably wouldn’t cost much and has fallen out of the rotation is Juan Toscano Anderson. Kuminga being playable and Bjelica/OPJ playing well has made it really tough for him to find minutes even though he is a fan favorite.

Smart player, solid versatile defense and above average from 3. 38.1% this year and 40% last year.

Problem is his value is probably so low that MIN would not have anything they’d be willing to give up that would interest GSW.

I'd rather keep JTA as an insurance policy. He's smart, plays hard, and knows what to do in our offense / defense.

If we make a deal I think we need to use our 1st to combine with one of our deep rotation guys to get a stronger top 9 (whoever that is, cause its changed so often this year).


I don't see GS trading JTA just to deal JTA, but he could be available for a couple of other reasons. Either GS is doing some 1 for 2 (or 2 for 3) deal and needs a spare roster spot. Or there's some other min FA they want for some other reason (perhaps wanting an extra big center option).

Of course while a solid player and a good fit he's probably a tier below what op really wants here.


Yeah both your points make sense and I’d tend to agree. I would not just throw JTA away for a 2nd or some other end of bench guy.

But I think MIN would love JTA as a back up PF. He’d fit nicely with KAT too.
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Post#38 » by Monky15 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:09 pm

Oubre, Carey jr for Prince, Reid

Hornets get a different look at C with Reid while letting Washington get more time at pf. Prince is filler.
Wolves get a combo forward in the Jae Crowder mould and a young big (negotiable which one) to balance the rosters. If they feel they need a better backup C I'm sure WCS from the Mavs could be had for little.
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Post#39 » by Sactowndog » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:51 pm

Domejandro wrote:I would rather someone trade us their backup center, in all honesty. Minnesota's biggest weakness is rebounding.


The Kings have 4 or 5:
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Post#40 » by jscott » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:17 pm

Monky15 wrote:Oubre, Carey jr for Prince, Reid

Hornets get a different look at C with Reid while letting Washington get more time at pf. Prince is filler.
Wolves get a combo forward in the Jae Crowder mould and a young big (negotiable which one) to balance the rosters. If they feel they need a better backup C I'm sure WCS from the Mavs could be had for little.

Wolves need to keep Naz too. We need more size on the court at one time so moving 1-for-1 doesn’t help.

We just get smaller overall in this trade. Wrong direction.

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