Pippen's cry for attention is getting worse

[Joshyjess]

First he goes all out on Jordan in his new book (you know the guy who made Pippen a name that people have actually heard of), and now he's expanding his attack to other sports. Now he's saying that Brady isn't the best player in the NFL. Why? Because Brady doesn't play all postitions, so therefore he can't be the best. Uhh, Pippen, newsbreak - NOBODY in the NFL plays all positions. So does that mean that Nobody in the NFL is the best player in the NFL?????
Listen, I get it if people try to say that the Best NFL player isn't as great as the best NBA player because of the whole "plays both side of the ball" arguement (there have been multiple threads here on the GM about that). But to say that an NFL player isn't the best NFL player trying to use this same argument puts you in the Kyrie shcool of Coo-Coo for Coco Puffs. Does any player in the NFL play both QB and Safety? Does any player in the NFL play both offensive and defensive line? Does any player in the NFL play both WR and Kicker?
So I guess apparently there isn't a best player in the NFL?
Pippen, just accept the fact that you were at best a mediocre player who got some fame being a side-kick to a much better player, and you will probably be a much happier person. Because right now you are coming across as a bitter, unhappy little troll who is desperately crying out for attention that frankly you never really deserved.

[cool007]

I had a lot of respect for Pippen but he is making it hard now.

Why Pip why???

[Wonka]

I need Ja Rule to help me make sense of this difficult time. Where is Ja?!

[cupcakesnake]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

[Joshyjess]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

That's funny. I grew up watching Pippen, and I never thought much about him. Sure he was a great side-kick to Jordan, but by himself - never really saw anything special. I have no doubt that you could have plugged in a ton of other players in his spot, and they would have done just as well as he did.
My opinion of Pippen is based on watching him for pretty much his whole career. Oh, I'm sure that you can probably find lots of stats and numbers justifying the esteem that many give him, but I think that most of his numbers came from his situation, and that were it not for Jordan, his numbers wouldn't be any higher than the average player in the NBA back then. Again, no Jordan - pretty much nobody would have heard of Pippen.
Again, that's just my opinion of watching him play for all those years, and others are welcome to their opinion of him.

[twolves31]

Pippen was my 2nd favorite player in the early 90's after Reggie Miller. I don't know why, but there was something about Jordan I didn't really like at the time. I liked the Bulls when they weren't playing Minny or Indiana but I liked Pippen and BJ Armstrong more than Jordan at the time. Now that I'm older its easier to respect the greatness that was Jordan. Pippen really should knock it off though it is hurting his legacy.

[-Luke-]

Pippen was my 2nd favorite player in the early 90's after Reggie Miller.

I started watching basketball later (at the beginning of the Bulls second three-peat), but Reggie and Pippen were my two favorite players too when I was a kid (with Schrempf and Hakeem at 3 and 4).

But Scottie seems to have a real inferiority complex. I don't get why. He had a great career. Why can't he just enjoy it and stop with the bs?

[iLLmatic860]

He’s obviously going through things. I think he needs help tbh. People should just take it easy on him. Yall let Charles Oakley slide only because he bashes Knicks but he’s much worse

[celticfan42487]

Pippen was my 2nd favorite player in the early 90's after Reggie Miller.

I started watching basketball later (at the beginning of the Bulls second three-peat), but Reggie and Pippen were my two favorite players too when I was a kid (with Schrempf and Hakeem at 3 and 4).

But Scottie seems to have a real inferiority complex. I don't get why. He had a great career. Why can't he just enjoy it and stop with the bs?

This happens to every player, it's why everyone makes fun of Shaq as petty on NBA on TNT.

Basically unless you're MJ, Curry, or LeBron you're going to be upset and feel like people didn't respect you and they won't the older you get.

Hell we have people here who don't even think Bird could even play in the league at a high level today and he was a multi time MVP of the league.

That's why I say guys like Derozen don't matter, and KD won't be remembered well. It's hard to not feel disrespected when they barely aren't about 4 years after they retire. 10 years after they actually will be disrespected. 20 years after well... it's fair for them to get pissed about what people say about their skills being morons acting like they wouldn't be just as dominate as they were in today's league because they make being tough illegal in the NBA these days.

[GoBobs]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

He wasn’t the second best wing of his era. He just wasn’t.

[cupcakesnake]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

He wasn’t the second best wing of his era. He just wasn’t.

So who was?

[LAL1947]

But to say that an NFL player isn't the best NFL player trying to use this same argument puts you in the Kyrie shcool of Coo-Coo for Coco Puffs.

Not trying to be a jerk so don't get mad... it's spelled "cuckoo"... as in the Cuckoo bird, which repeats its annoying call incessantly... just like dimwits often say/do and then repeat inane things or arguments.

I agree, Pippen appears to have gone slightly cuckoo. Great player though and was the perfect side-kick to MJ.

[Maxthirty]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

That's funny. I grew up watching Pippen, and I never thought much about him. Sure he was a great side-kick to Jordan, but by himself - never really saw anything special. I have no doubt that you could have plugged in a ton of other players in his spot, and they would have done just as well as he did.
My opinion of Pippen is based on watching him for pretty much his whole career. Oh, I'm sure that you can probably find lots of stats and numbers justifying the esteem that many give him, but I think that most of his numbers came from his situation, and that were it not for Jordan, his numbers wouldn't be any higher than the average player in the NBA back then. Again, no Jordan - pretty much nobody would have heard of Pippen.
Again, that's just my opinion of watching him play for all those years, and others are welcome to their opinion of him.

So despite being a great player with the data to back it up you still give Jordan all the credit? No, you could not just plug in “a ton of other players” and get the same results. Stuff like this is part of the reason Scottie is losing his mind.

[Quattro]

First he goes all out on Jordan in his new book (you know the guy who made Pippen a name that people have actually heard of), and now he's expanding his attack to other sports. Now he's saying that Brady isn't the best player in the NFL. Why? Because Brady doesn't play all postitions, so therefore he can't be the best. Uhh, Pippen, newsbreak - NOBODY in the NFL plays all positions. So does that mean that Nobody in the NFL is the best player in the NFL?????
Listen, I get it if people try to say that the Best NFL player isn't as great as the best NBA player because of the whole "plays both side of the ball" arguement (there have been multiple threads here on the GM about that). But to say that an NFL player isn't the best NFL player trying to use this same argument puts you in the Kyrie shcool of Coo-Coo for Coco Puffs. Does any player in the NFL play both QB and Safety? Does any player in the NFL play both offensive and defensive line? Does any player in the NFL play both WR and Kicker?
So I guess apparently there isn't a best player in the NFL?
Pippen, just accept the fact that you were at best a mediocre player who got some fame being a side-kick to a much better player, and you will probably be a much happier person. Because right now you are coming across as a bitter, unhappy little troll who is desperately crying out for attention that frankly you never really deserved.

You’re wrong about who was first. It wasn’t Jordan. It was his “racist” coach that helped him win 6 titles.

I also don’t think he was a mediocre player. I think he was a great player and that’s part of the reason for his craziness today. He doesn’t seem to be able to cope with the fact that he spent his prime playing with the GOAT while he was a second banana.

[Joshyjess]

But to say that an NFL player isn't the best NFL player trying to use this same argument puts you in the Kyrie shcool of Coo-Coo for Coco Puffs.

Not trying to be a jerk so don't get mad... it's spelled "cuckoo"... as in the Cuckoo bird, which repeats its annoying call incessantly... just like dimwits often say/do and then repeat inane things or arguments.

And yes, I agree, Pippen appears to have gone slightly cuckoo.

Yeah, that's all true, and stuff, but Coo Coo is more fun to write!

[cupcakesnake]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

That's funny. I grew up watching Pippen, and I never thought much about him. Sure he was a great side-kick to Jordan, but by himself - never really saw anything special. I have no doubt that you could have plugged in a ton of other players in his spot, and they would have done just as well as he did.
My opinion of Pippen is based on watching him for pretty much his whole career. Oh, I'm sure that you can probably find lots of stats and numbers justifying the esteem that many give him, but I think that most of his numbers came from his situation, and that were it not for Jordan, his numbers wouldn't be any higher than the average player in the NBA back then. Again, no Jordan - pretty much nobody would have heard of Pippen.
Again, that's just my opinion of watching him play for all those years, and others are welcome to their opinion of him.

You watched him and didn't think he was good. I think I got that part. It's fine that you don't like him.
- What players do you think you could have plugged in and have done just as well?
- what do you mean: "by himself"? when you say "never saw anything special"? This isn't tennis. No one plays by themselves.
- You do know that Jordan retired to play baseball, and in that season Pippen's numbers went up rather than down, right? The Bulls won 55 games and Scottie averaged 22-8-5, finished top 3 in MVP voting.
- Do you think Scottie was special as a defensive player?

Again I'm fine with you not liking Pippen. But your assertion that he was an average NBA player, single-handedly boosted to stardom by the presence of MJ... I don't think it's a theory you can back up with anything. MJ and Pippen played together for almost their entire careers so it can be difficult to pull them apart, I get that. But in general there aren't too many stories in the history of basketball where a player was a big star next to another player, and wasn't an above-average player in every other context.

[Joshyjess]

I don't care about Pippen's opinion on the NFL but I do care that you're calling Pippen a mediocre player. Being second best to arguably the greatest of all-time doesn't make you mediocre. Pippen was the second-best wing of an entire era, full stop.

He does come across bitter and unhappy though. But takes like yours make his bitterness a tiny bit more justified. Brutal, clueless assessment of Pippen as a basketball player. Pippen has bad takes but I guess he isn't alone in that.

That's funny. I grew up watching Pippen, and I never thought much about him. Sure he was a great side-kick to Jordan, but by himself - never really saw anything special. I have no doubt that you could have plugged in a ton of other players in his spot, and they would have done just as well as he did.
My opinion of Pippen is based on watching him for pretty much his whole career. Oh, I'm sure that you can probably find lots of stats and numbers justifying the esteem that many give him, but I think that most of his numbers came from his situation, and that were it not for Jordan, his numbers wouldn't be any higher than the average player in the NBA back then. Again, no Jordan - pretty much nobody would have heard of Pippen.
Again, that's just my opinion of watching him play for all those years, and others are welcome to their opinion of him.

So despite being a great player with the data to back it up you still give Jordan all the credit? No, you could not just plug in “a ton of other players” and get the same results. Stuff like this is part of the reason Scottie is losing his mind.

1 - Yes, yes I do. Jordan made Pippen who he was. No Jordan - nobody ever hears about Pippen.
2 - Yes, I beleive you could have plugged in a lot of different players to do the same exact role that Pippen played, and play it just as well.
Pippen was a pretty good Robin to Jordan's Batman. But sidekicks aren't really all that special in themselves.

[KembaWalker]

Scottie Pippen definitely bought a Zune

[timecop]

him getting cucked by his wife really did a number on him

[JimmyPlopper]

Scottie Pippen definitely bought a Zune

I owned a Zune. It was wonderful