Enes Kanter shoes in tonight’s game had LeBron bowing to China.

[LesGrossman]

Good lord. Lol. This is why Lebron should've just stayed quiet. His response is so tone deaf and dumb that it proves Kanter's point.

Watch on YouTube

Thats exactly what his stans do, too. Instead of talking about the topic at hand (LeBron's weak stance on china), they try to derail the discussion to an ad hominem attack on Kanter and why somehow his irrelevance on the court should also translate to his political opinion being of less relevance than Bron's. Weak.

[Goomba3666]

Doris Burke hitting even lower lows in that clip lol. Acting like you don't understand why LeBron is being singled out on this is just pathetic. LeBron used the biggest platform in the NBA to denounce someone speaking critically of a country that engages in literal modern slavery. Bottom line. The end.

That Burke clip is horrendous for her. Not gonna age well.

[azcatz11]

Doris Burke hitting even lower lows in that clip lol. Acting like you don't understand why LeBron is being singled out on this is just pathetic. LeBron used the biggest platform in the NBA to denounce someone speaking critically of a country that engages in literal modern slavery. Bottom line. The end.

That Burke clip is horrendous for her. Not gonna age well.

She is the absolute worst.

[G35]

You're still missing the point.
LeBron has great charities and _done more than kanter for his communities since LeBron has way more money. He should be commended. But that has nothing to do with the right to criticize him on another issue.
LeBron is not immune to criticism just because he does good things or that everyone is complicit to the PRC. That's cult mentality.

I don't see what's wrong if someone wants to critique LeBron over his statement. You and others seem to agree but are beating around the bush by saying oh look he does all this good tho. Or that Kanter sucks. Or that why don't more people criticize the NBA or harden or mark Cuban(which they do, but aren't as big a star as LeBron). None of which has anything to do with the right to criticize LeBron for his statements against Morey.

+1

If we changed this to another subject those same people would be singing a different tune.

If we said why are we criticizing the cops for police brutality. Think about all the good that they do for the community. They save people in car accidents, breakup domestic arguments, protect community property. Why are people criticizing the police over a few incidents of police brutality.


I was watching a Jonathan Haidt video and he was explaining that you can learn a lot about someone with how they frame an argument. Do you frame the elements of the conversation to win the argument or do you consistently apply your principles.

Many people will flip flop on what they say they believe in from conversation to conversation.....

[Mickey8]

Kanter is probably the most politically active pro player out there right now.

For those who call him a social justice warrior id suggest looking into the whole kanter vs tagip erdojan history. The dude puts his money where his mouth is

Now this whole shoe thing might be a bit of a low blow but **** it. How is it not true

He is supporting another would be sultan, well coup hasn't succeed in Turkey , so all he can do is to bark far away from the safe place , its a doggy dog world.

[ceiling raiser]

I think being a sycophant for China is a bad thing for sure, given what they have done to the US economy since PNTR passed here and they were admitted to the WTO. At the same time though, I don’t care for attempts to manufacture consent for war with China over Hong Kong, Taiwan, Uyghers, Covid, etc. China, or the CCP really is a problematic entity, but they should be viewed as an adversary for economic and climate change reasons, not as a geopolitical adversary like the neocons claim.

[snaquille oatmeal]

why does Enes play for the NBA? for money right? the NBA has deals with nike right? why does Enes wear nikes?

[Mickey8]

Good lord. Lol. This is why Lebron should've just stayed quiet. His response is so tone deaf and dumb that it proves Kanter's point.

Watch on YouTube

Thats exactly what his stans do, too. Instead of talking about the topic at hand (LeBron's weak stance on china), they try to derail the discussion to an ad hominem attack on Kanter and why somehow his irrelevance on the court should also translate to his political opinion being of less relevance than Bron's. Weak.

Why would black men in America hate China ??? China never did anything bad to Lebron's ancestor's , why would he talk bad about China's government and its people , when millions of Chinese people adore NBA athletes , why should Lebron involve himself into internal affairs of China, why should he be a propagandist tool of the US government ??? There is such a mess in the United States and its society , all kind of social issues , police brutality, high crime rate, poverty, homelessness . Imagine if some high profile Chinese athlete comes out and talk how bad minorities are treated in the United States, how Native Americans are stripped of all their dignity and they are still being held in reservations , living in poverty , with no bright future . Just think about that

[LesGrossman]

Good lord. Lol. This is why Lebron should've just stayed quiet. His response is so tone deaf and dumb that it proves Kanter's point.

Watch on YouTube

Thats exactly what his stans do, too. Instead of talking about the topic at hand (LeBron's weak stance on china), they try to derail the discussion to an ad hominem attack on Kanter and why somehow his irrelevance on the court should also translate to his political opinion being of less relevance than Bron's. Weak.

Why would black men in America hate China ??? China never did anything bad to Lebron's ancestor's , why would he talk bad about China government and its people , when millions of Chinese people adore NBA athletes , why should Lebron involve himself into internal affairs of China, why should he be a propagandist tool of the US government ??? There is such a mess in the United States and its society , all kind of social issues , police brutality, high crime rate, poverty, homelessness . Imagine if some high profile Chinese athlete comes out and talk how bad minorities are treated in the United States, how Native Americans are stripped of all their dignity and they are still being held in reservations , leaving in poverty , with no bright future . Just think about that

yeah nice try, too bad everyone knows by now you're just trolling. Make a new account maybe to gain credibilty.

[Nate505]

So this whole thing did its trick. It was just a giant troll of LeBron, who is totally deserving of it. Well done Kanter, well done.

[Mickey8]

Nice try???

[Nate505]

magine if some high profile Chinese athlete comes out and talk how bad minorities are treated in the United States, how Native Americans are stripped of all their dignity and they are still being held in reservations , living in poverty , with no bright future . Just think about that

I don't know any high profile Chinese athletes (except one guy who retired years ago for the Rockets), so I couldn't imagine giving a **** about it. The country is that irrelevant when it comes to successful athletes on the US stage.

[Nate505]

Kanter is a sensationalist and a hypocrite. He’s employed by the NBA who values their position in China more than Nike does.

The NBA is the most popular sports league in China and the 625 million basketball fans there shouldn’t be punished because of what their government does.

Ok, but that's an issue with their government, who punishes their fans because of what players in a league say.

[bisme37]

I think this thread has run its course. This is the NBA board and it's for talking about basketball. The topic here is partly about NBA players, so clearly it's relevant to the league.

But at heart it's a political topic. And so of course there will be political comments/discussion in response. But there's so much here that would usually not be allowed on the GB.

We usually give warnings for political derailing on the GB, but of course it would be silly to do that since the whole topic is political and you all are only giving your opinions on it. So it's become impossible to moderate with any consistency under the rules we've always used for this board.

For these reasons I'm locking it up. Please visit the Current Affairs board if you're looking for political topics to discuss. Thanks.