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GTR11 · Post #181 » by **GTR11** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:37 am

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I was one of the biggest doubters out there, kid can play, we definitely can use him right now.

Prokorov · Post #182 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:07 am

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I was one of the biggest doubters out there, kid can play, we definitely can use him right now.

We need guys who score in the NBA, not the G-league... Toko shenglia and marquis teague dominated G-league. Not knock on Cam, he has a future as a scorer in the league. but racking up summer league and g-league stats dont mean jack.

GTR11 · Post #183 » by **GTR11** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:50 am

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I expect that to be a trend next year. Owners going to protect themselves and penalize unvax players. Only blind can't see that.

I don't think GOP will be able to stop it. Cuban already not selling lower seats to unvax fans, said next year they'll take a step further ( happened before season started ).

GTR11 · Post #184 » by **GTR11** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:55 am

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I was one of the biggest doubters out there, kid can play, we definitely can use him right now.

We need guys who score in the NBA, not the G-league... Toko shenglia and marquis teague dominated G-league. Not knock on Cam, he has a future as a scorer in the league. but racking up summer league and g-league stats dont mean jack.

He's talent undeniable right now. I was questioning his D and IQ for the game, it's respectable. There's no way he shouldn't be getting minutes with injuries we have. He shooting above average percentage, pretty good spot up shooter.

After GSW game where both KD and Harden said lack of spacing was an issue, it's hard to comprehend why he shouldn't be tested now vs lotto teams. Same was true vs Cavs and Tragic, Ian and Sarah spoke about it during the game and post game interview.

Prokorov · Post #185 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:02 am

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I was one of the biggest doubters out there, kid can play, we definitely can use him right now.

We need guys who score in the NBA, not the G-league... Toko shenglia and marquis teague dominated G-league. Not knock on Cam, he has a future as a scorer in the league. but racking up summer league and g-league stats dont mean jack.

He's talent undeniable right now. I was questioning his D and IQ for the game, it's respectable. There's no way he shouldn't be getting minutes with injuries we have. He shooting above average percentage, pretty good spot up shooter.

After GSW game where both KD and Harden said lack of spacing was an issue, it's hard to comprehend why he shouldn't be tested now vs lotto teams. Same was true vs Cavs and Tragic, Ian and Sarah spoke about it during the game and post game interview.

I dont see how a guy who isnt a three point shooter and who scores mostly off the dribble not the catch helps with spacing. how is he shooing an above average percentage? he is shooting 20% and 0% on threes. i mean he has barely played, but still, thats not average.

Cam's role is nick young. skilled bench guy who can hit jumpers off the dribble and get to the line a bit. but he is a long way from being able to contribute that on a contending team. His IQ/shot selection is an issue... because if he doesnt make the bad shots he takes, nash will yank him.. like we saw vs. orlando.

GTR11 · Post #186 » by **GTR11** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:22 am

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We need guys who score in the NBA, not the G-league... Toko shenglia and marquis teague dominated G-league. Not knock on Cam, he has a future as a scorer in the league. but racking up summer league and g-league stats dont mean jack.

He's talent undeniable right now. I was questioning his D and IQ for the game, it's respectable. There's no way he shouldn't be getting minutes with injuries we have. He shooting above average percentage, pretty good spot up shooter.

After GSW game where both KD and Harden said lack of spacing was an issue, it's hard to comprehend why he shouldn't be tested now vs lotto teams. Same was true vs Cavs and Tragic, Ian and Sarah spoke about it during the game and post game interview.

I dont see how a guy who isnt a three point shooter and who scores mostly off the dribble not the catch helps with spacing. how is he shooing an above average percentage? he is shooting 20% and 0% on threes. i mean he has barely played, but still, thats not average.

Cam's role is nick young. skilled bench guy who can hit jumpers off the dribble and get to the line a bit. but he is a long way from being able to contribute that on a contending team. His IQ/shot selection is an issue... because if he doesnt make the bad shots he takes, nash will yank him.. like we saw vs. orlando.

Did you really used 10m sample In a blow outs as stats and say D-league games don't matter :rofl:

How you achieved to come to them conclusions :lol:

ecuhus1981 · Post #187 » by **ecuhus1981** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:38 pm

You can look at high school, AAU and college footage on Cam, and come to the same conclusion. I still think it would be worthwhile to get him some NBA action, but Prok is right, he does not help our spacing currently.

Prokorov · Post #188 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:32 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:You can look at high school, AAU and college footage on Cam, and come to the same conclusion. I still think it would be worthwhile to get him some NBA action, but Prok is right, he does not help our spacing currently.

Yeah, im not down on Cam, i just dont get the super hype train. he is something between marshon brooks, jordan clarkson and nick young. which isnt bad. the ladder have had long prosperous nba careers as 6th men/spot starters. But Cam isnt some jamal crawford cheat code type sniper from all 3 levels nor does he had elite athleticism.

i think a nick young comparison is spot on... only young came in as a much better 3pt shooter.

MrDollarBills · Post #189 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:24 am

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Absolutely crazy. Stewart is a hot head (remember when he and Blake got into it?) but that was a definite frustration elbow thrown by LeBron. Definitely may warrant a 1 game suspension based on the severity of that cut. Dude was gushing blood

Edit: saw the other angle. LeBron clubbed him in the face with a closed fist. That's definitely a suspension

GTR11 · Post #190 » by **GTR11** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:58 am

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Absolutely crazy. Stewart is a hot head (remember when he and Blake got into it?) but that was a definite frustration elbow thrown by LeBron. Definitely may warrant a 1 game suspension based on the severity of that cut. Dude was gushing blood

Edit: saw the other angle. LeBron clubbed him in the face with a closed fist. That's definitely a suspension

There's something about Palace these players love to bust each other azz up :lol:

Stone · Post #191 » by **Stone** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:25 am

I think what got Isaiah angry was LeBron pointing at him and whatever he said to the ref's. A true case of adding insult to injury.

GTR11 · Post #192 » by **GTR11** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:42 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:You can look at high school, AAU and college footage on Cam, and come to the same conclusion. I still think it would be worthwhile to get him some NBA action, but Prok is right, he does not help our spacing currently.

Put it plain and simple for you guys who's not getting memo. We dumb short right now and players Nash playing are third string trash that being passed around like hot potato. Not using this opportunity to see what you have in Cam is beyond stupid.

GTR11 · Post #193 » by **GTR11** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:46 am

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Papi_swav · Post #195 » by **Papi_swav** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:21 am

lol this dude Stewart did all that for nothing. But yea Lakers ain't going far this year and Lebron knows it so he punched the guy.

ecuhus1981 · Post #196 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:34 pm

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Well, they aren't testing for it this season, so there's at least a partially blind eye. I don't know how the league would respond to overt use.

Prokorov · Post #197 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:02 pm

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ecuhus1981 wrote:You can look at high school, AAU and college footage on Cam, and come to the same conclusion. I still think it would be worthwhile to get him some NBA action, but Prok is right, he does not help our spacing currently.

Put it plain and simple for you guys who's not getting memo. We dumb short right now and players Nash playing are third string trash that being passed around like hot potato. Not using this opportunity to see what you have in Cam is beyond stupid.

We aren't short, we have a deep bench, maybe the deepest in the league. if you are referring to "short" as in height then cam isnt a big guy and rebounding is not a priorty where we will ever go big.

There is no need to "see what you have in cam" when our bench has been outstanding and we are off to the best start in franchise history.

Prokorov · Post #198 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:03 pm

KD smoking weed is no public secret. the books references it several times and he said it outright he smokes weed and the league should allow it on the 'all the smoke' podcast

MrDollarBills · Post #199 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:12 pm

Prokorov wrote:KD smoking weed is no public secret. the books references it several times and he said it outright he smokes weed and the league should allow it on the 'all the smoke' podcast

Yeah I thought it was well known that KD smokes....and it doesn't even remotely effect his performance or work ethic. It's a non story

The most interesting things in this tweet are right below Taylor Rooks' neck, and not KD's weed consumption

gigantes · Post #200 » by **gigantes** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:23 am

I've seen the case made that LeBron wasn't actually going for Stewart's face, but was instead trying to pull some kind of move where he smacks the other guy's arm away while looking in the other direction. I'm kinda 50/50 on that, because it looked pretty terrible to me, yet we know that players are constantly doing gamesmanship moves like that.

His reaction (immediate apology) also seemed to suggest LeBron was strictly trying to pull a game move, and didn't actually mean to hit Stewart in the face. Which makes sense to me, because as any baller could tell you, if you regularly smack others in the face, there's going to be consequences & repercussions. (thank you, Eddie)

Then again, Anthony Davis piped up afterwards that 'LeBron isn't a dirty player.' Oh, really? Because u/riderforlyfe (a Lakers fan!) pulled up some pretty good tape on that, I'd say:

https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/MeaslyEnlightenedIrishsetter (multiple bron dirty plays, including tripping steph with his bad ankle injury history)

https://streamable.com/r8e0xl (bron pushes Livingston midair to land on the same knee where he tore his ACL, MCL, PCL, lateral meniscus, and dislocated his knee cap)

https://youtu.be/Qd7Rn5U4VzY (bron pushes Embiid midair to land on his back)

https://youtu.be/SV0PsMLonPc (bron slide tackles steph)(after reading comments this one admittedly isn’t dirty, but I do think it was a reckless play with how big he is)

Another thing, how many nutshots did Draymond have to be “the ball kicker”? Was it more than 3? Not sure, anyways here’s Bron doing a few of em.

https://streamable.com/re8j0 (bron knees steph in the balls)

https://streamable.com/lh45i (bron elbows Iggys balls)

https://gfycat.com/serenepowerlessilladopsis (bron kicks Iggys balls)

A lot of these are on guys who had a bad history with injuries. Lebron really needs to stop these antics or he’s going to seriously injure someone eventually.

Edit: https://youtu.be/9adZfNyHylI (yet another one from midair)

https://v.redd.it/np93tyhjtg271 (bron pushes Payne midair)

https://streamable.com/mg3brt (bron pushes Ayton midair, this is starting to look like a trend)

https://streamable.com/lef9sa (bron body checks Ayton HARD, can hear it across the stadium)

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/qzngvj/how_many_dirty_plays_does_lebron_need_to_be/