Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

[Tomjas]

Told ya so

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[Quincy83]

Told ya so

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Sixers were 8-2 number 1 seed before Covid hit the team With a number one offense in the NBA - no we do not miss Ben Simmons. Lol

[Kobblehead]

Shake-up in Sacramento coming. Walton is out as coach. Fox trade will likely be next.

[Quincy83]

Shake-up in Sacramento coming. Walton is out as coach. Fox trade will likely be next.

Then what bring Maxey off the bench??? I don’t like that.

[NBA Moses]

Statistically speaking Ben Simmons is an overall more valuable player than his rumored trade targets Ingram,Fox,Jaylen Brown ,Jamal Murray etc etc. What happened when BS joined the Sixers? His first year of playing Sixers went from 28 Wins to 53 Wins. BS cant get all the credit for that but when he came aboard Sixers became a power.


Win Shares is a stat similar to baseballs War. From best year to worst.

Ben Simmons 9.2, 8.2, 6.9, 6.0
DeAaron Fox 5.6, 4.2, 4.0,- 0.6
Brandon Ingram 5.3 .5.1, 2.8, 2.0. -0.3
Jaylen Brown 4.9, 4.8, 4.5, 3.0

BS trade value takes a hit with the off court nonsense but I would still want 1 of the above mentioned players + a good player or #1 pick if Im Morey.

fwiw Joel Embiid win shares almost identical to Ben. 8.8, 8.7, 6.2, 6.0

[Kobblehead]

Pretty much every catch-all metric is terrible.

Go to the 2016 draft and sort by winshares and winshares per 48. It's hilarious.

Zubac and Purtle are the class of the draft!

Check Diallo, Thon Maker, and Damian James (all out of basketball) have more winshares and winshare per 48 than Furkan Korkmaz and Georges Niang. lol

[Iverson Armband]

Statistically speaking Ben Simmons is an overall more valuable player than his rumored trade targets Ingram,Fox,Jaylen Brown ,Jamal Murray etc etc. What happened when BS joined the Sixers? His first year of playing Sixers went from 28 Wins to 53 Wins. BS cant get all the credit for that but when he came aboard Sixers became a power.


Win Shares is a stat similar to baseballs War. From best year to worst.

Ben Simmons 9.2, 8.2, 6.9, 6.0
DeAaron Fox 5.6, 4.2, 4.0,- 0.6
Brandon Ingram 5.3 .5.1, 2.8, 2.0. -0.3
Jaylen Brown 4.9, 4.8, 4.5, 3.0

BS trade value takes a hit with the off court nonsense but I would still want 1 of the above mentioned players + a good player or #1 pick if Im Morey.

fwiw Joel Embiid win shares almost identical to Ben. 8.8, 8.7, 6.2, 6.0

Stop it.

[Bum Adebayo]

Aussies always posting bogus stats to prove how Bum Simmons is very impactful, too late though, we just miss Embiid and I'm sure Maxey will grow as a player, plus with whatever piece we get back for Bum Simmons, we will be better no doubt, too bad for some of you. Will always have Thybulle to root for though...

[Stanford]

Pretty much every catch-all metric is terrible.

??? not the ones that validate my opinions though

[FlyingArrow]

So how much money is Ben forfeiting this season? The craziness of that is pretty good evidence that he does have mental issues to work through.

[Bum Adebayo]

So how much money is Ben forfeiting this season? The craziness of that is pretty good evidence that he does have mental issues to work through.

It's not all about money though, if he truly had deep mental issues, it would be very understandable to forfeit money and sit home not doing much or just doing whatever he can enjoy, you bet I would just do that if I had mental issues and had generated like 60M$ or whatever it is that he has earned already, 99.9% of people aren't in the position to be able to do that. Again the issue is the whole sequence of forcing a trade, then refusing to play because of a newfound mental illness when such trade didn't happen, and then demand to get paid as if he was playing.

[agiaco]

So how much money is Ben forfeiting this season? The craziness of that is pretty good evidence that he does have mental issues to work through.

It's not all about money though, if he truly had deep mental issues, it would be very understandable to forfeit money and sit home not doing much or just doing whatever he can enjoy, you bet I would just do that if I had mental issues and had generated like 60M$ or whatever it is that he has earned already, 99.9% of people aren't in the position to be able to do that. Again the issue is the whole sequence of forcing a trade, then refusing to play because of a newfound mental illness when such trade didn't happen, and then demand to get paid as if he was playing.

It was enough about money that he reported to training camp in order to get a paycheck and acted like a baby anyway. When they subsequently fined him for his actions he then decided he had mental issues.

[76ciology]

Told ya so

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You might want to look at the standings

1.) what i mean is I already said that MSM will caught up to this and will start headlines about Sixers being a better team without Ben.
2.) Sixers had a winning record without ben and is clearly better without him. The loses are because we dont have Embiid

[NBA Moses]

Pretty much every catch-all metric is terrible.

Go to the 2016 draft and sort by winshares and winshares per 48. It's hilarious.

Zubac and Purtle are the class of the draft!

Check Diallo, Thon Maker, and Damian James (all out of basketball) have more winshares and winshare per 48 than Furkan Korkmaz and Georges Niang. lol

Can we accept nba achivements?

Ben Simmons- Rookie of Year, 3x all-star, 2x nba all-defense, all-nba, 2019-20 steals leader, 32 triple doubles(13th in nba history)

DeAaron Fox- Nothing not a thing.

Brandon Ingram- 1 all-star

Jaylen Brown- 1 all-star

Why do many fans feel as if we get Fox or Ingram then Sac/NO got fleeced?

At some point people have to overlook Bens passed up dunk and say Ben has had a pretty awesome 4 yr nba career. Many have short memories.

[Madd Squabbles]

Statistically speaking Ben Simmons is an overall more valuable player than his rumored trade targets Ingram,Fox,Jaylen Brown ,Jamal Murray etc etc. What happened when BS joined the Sixers? His first year of playing Sixers went from 28 Wins to 53 Wins. BS cant get all the credit for that but when he came aboard Sixers became a power.


Win Shares is a stat similar to baseballs War. From best year to worst.

Ben Simmons 9.2, 8.2, 6.9, 6.0
DeAaron Fox 5.6, 4.2, 4.0,- 0.6
Brandon Ingram 5.3 .5.1, 2.8, 2.0. -0.3
Jaylen Brown 4.9, 4.8, 4.5, 3.0

BS trade value takes a hit with the off court nonsense but I would still want 1 of the above mentioned players + a good player or #1 pick if Im Morey.

fwiw Joel Embiid win shares almost identical to Ben. 8.8, 8.7, 6.2, 6.0

If you polled every GM in the NBA would which player would you think they would most want, including Morey? Ingram, Brown or Simmons?

[WindyCityBorn]

Statistically speaking Ben Simmons is an overall more valuable player than his rumored trade targets Ingram,Fox,Jaylen Brown ,Jamal Murray etc etc. What happened when BS joined the Sixers? His first year of playing Sixers went from 28 Wins to 53 Wins. BS cant get all the credit for that but when he came aboard Sixers became a power.


Win Shares is a stat similar to baseballs War. From best year to worst.

Ben Simmons 9.2, 8.2, 6.9, 6.0
DeAaron Fox 5.6, 4.2, 4.0,- 0.6
Brandon Ingram 5.3 .5.1, 2.8, 2.0. -0.3
Jaylen Brown 4.9, 4.8, 4.5, 3.0

BS trade value takes a hit with the off court nonsense but I would still want 1 of the above mentioned players + a good player or #1 pick if Im Morey.

fwiw Joel Embiid win shares almost identical to Ben. 8.8, 8.7, 6.2, 6.0

If you polled every GM in the NBA would which player would you think they would most want, including Morey? Ingram, Brown or Simmons?

For me Brown.

[Tomjas]

Told ya so

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You might want to look at the standings

1.) what i mean is I already said that MSM will caught up to this and will start headlines about Sixers being a better team without Ben.
2.) Sixers had a winning record without ben and is clearly better without him. The loses are because we dont have Embiid

Fortunately, we have an entire career’s stats to fall back on

Sixers without Embiid but with Simmons = .500+ and playoffs

Sixers without Embiid & Simmons this season = .15

Your eye test has failed you as the scoreboard never lies

Until Ben pulls his head out of his butt or we get reinforcements for him, we will be a lot worse and that’s only to be expected when you’re dealing with a 25% salary cap disadvantage

Ben is the Fresh Prince of Hot Takes

Getting weird now

[Bum Adebayo]

You cannot talk about eye test when you always wear your Aussie-colored glasses though.

[thenbaman]

Told ya so

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You might want to look at the standings

You can't be this serious right,you know half the team has been out with covid issues.

[thenbaman]

Shake-up in Sacramento coming. Walton is out as coach. Fox trade will likely be next.

Then what bring Maxey off the bench??? I don’t like that.

Yea to me maxey is better than fox and way better than simmons.