Will Curry make the All Defensive Team in 2022

[LikeMike23]

This thread is a joke. Curry has no chance of making an all-defensive team. Gary Payton II will make an all-defensive team before Curry.

[art_tatum]

No lol.
But he can't be brushed off as a overall bad defender anymore. That's an old worn out take.

[Lockdown504090]

holiday payton vanfleet caruso barett lonzo cp3 bledsoe probably have something to say on this one.

[Jay_Sizzle]

I think Curry can beat out CP3 for all d-team.

I don't know if Curry can beat out Marcus Smart and Ricky Rubio for 1st all d-team

Curry's star power and wins could get him a few more votes than Smart. We will just see what happens at the end of the season. But for this season, Curry is easily a top 5 defender for PGs.

Not sure where this is coming from. CP3 is leading the league in steals.

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[JujitsuFlip]

payton vanfleet caruso barett lonzo cp3 bledsoe probably have something to say on this one.

RJ has always been a negative defender and is having his worst season defensively thus far, -2.6 dRAPTOR and -2.5 DBPM.

Outside of him though, all the other guys for sure have a claim.

[Lockdown504090]

payton vanfleet caruso barett lonzo cp3 bledsoe probably have something to say on this one.

RJ has always been a negative defender and is having his worst season defensively thus far, -2.6 dRAPTOR and -2.5 DBPM.

Outside of him though, all the other guys for sure have a claim.

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did the same thing to zach in the game i just watched

Those metrics are bad and you dont even know what draptor means.

[Big J]

I think Curry can beat out CP3 for all d-team.

I don't know if Curry can beat out Marcus Smart and Ricky Rubio for 1st all d-team

Curry's star power and wins could get him a few more votes than Smart. We will just see what happens at the end of the season. But for this season, Curry is easily a top 5 defender for PGs.

Not sure where this is coming from. CP3 is leading the league in steals.

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Curry also led the league in steals one season…

[TheBobster]

You see a lot of dumb threads, and well, this is among them.

[magee]

Maybe All-Defense is a little much, but at least give him credit for playing pretty damn good defense this season. It's nice to see guys being able to finally body up on the wing without feeling like they'd get a foul called on them right away. Curry has done his homework in knowing when to crowd certain PG's and has held his own.

[JujitsuFlip]

payton vanfleet caruso barett lonzo cp3 bledsoe probably have something to say on this one.

RJ has always been a negative defender and is having his worst season defensively thus far, -2.6 dRAPTOR and -2.5 DBPM.

Outside of him though, all the other guys for sure have a claim.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

did the same thing to zach in the game i just watched

Those metrics are bad and you dont even know what draptor means.

I'm trusting stats over 2 amateur videos with a combined viewership of 10k lol

RJ is not a good defender and never has been in the NBA... *shrug*

Defensive RAPTOR is not aerospace engineering, if you do not understand it, say that, no need to poorly attempt to speak for me.

[Lockdown504090]

RJ has always been a negative defender and is having his worst season defensively thus far, -2.6 dRAPTOR and -2.5 DBPM.

Outside of him though, all the other guys for sure have a claim.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

did the same thing to zach in the game i just watched

Those metrics are bad and you dont even know what draptor means.

I'm trusting stats over 2 amateur videos with a combined viewership of 10k lol

RJ is not a good defender and never has been in the NBA... *shrug*

Defensive RAPTOR is not aerospace engineering, if you do not understand it, say that, no need to poorly attempt to speak for me.

then you would know that its not a good way to measure if RJ barett is a good defender and you should probably rely more on the film and use that as a support.

[johanliebert]

Seeing as they hide him on defence, nope. There are more deserving players.

[rtiff68]

I'm a fan of Curry's defense, but no.

It's not a question of whether he plays good defense, it's whether he plays better defense than the guys who are ahead of him in line to get an all-defensive spot. You think Curry is a top 4 offensive guard? Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday, Lu Dort, Fred Van Vleet, Eric Bledsoe, KCP, Kyle Lowry, just off the top of my head.

Citing his team being #1 in defense as a reason he should make the team is like asking whether Royce O'Neal is one of the 4 best offensive forwards in the NBA because the Jazz are the #1 offense.

This.

[Rodwilliams]

I'm a fan of Curry's defense, but no.

It's not a question of whether he plays good defense, it's whether he plays better defense than the guys who are ahead of him in line to get an all-defensive spot. You think Curry is a top 4 offensive guard? Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday, Lu Dort, Fred Van Vleet, Eric Bledsoe, KCP, Kyle Lowry, just off the top of my head.

Citing his team being #1 in defense as a reason he should make the team is like asking whether Royce O'Neal is one of the 4 best offensive forwards in the NBA because the Jazz are the #1 offense.

This.

I’m surprised you’re agreeing with a Anti Curry post.

[rtiff68]

I'm a fan of Curry's defense, but no.

It's not a question of whether he plays good defense, it's whether he plays better defense than the guys who are ahead of him in line to get an all-defensive spot. You think Curry is a top 4 offensive guard? Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday, Lu Dort, Fred Van Vleet, Eric Bledsoe, KCP, Kyle Lowry, just off the top of my head.

Citing his team being #1 in defense as a reason he should make the team is like asking whether Royce O'Neal is one of the 4 best offensive forwards in the NBA because the Jazz are the #1 offense.

This.

I’m surprised you’re agreeing with a Anti Curry post.

I seek to have objective takes on all players and teams, whether I’m a fan of them or not.

It’s the opposite of deciding what you want your conclusion to be at the start, then trying to force reality to reflect that pre-determined conclusion.

You should give it a try.

[JujitsuFlip]

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did the same thing to zach in the game i just watched

Those metrics are bad and you dont even know what draptor means.

I'm trusting stats over 2 amateur videos with a combined viewership of 10k lol

RJ is not a good defender and never has been in the NBA... *shrug*

Defensive RAPTOR is not aerospace engineering, if you do not understand it, say that, no need to poorly attempt to speak for me.

then you would know that its not a good way to measure if RJ barett is a good defender and you should probably rely more on the film and use that as a support.

What in your opinion is fundamentally flawed about DBPM and dRAPTOR that make them unable to measure RJ's defensive impact accurately?

[Duke4life831]

Haha like I say on here all the time. When talking about defense there seems to be only 2 options

Player X is All Defense level of a defender
or
Player X is a horrible defender and is a massive liability

There seems to be no middle ground for many when it comes to individual defense.

Curry is a great example of a player that falls within that middle ground. Curry doesnt make a defense better, but he also doesnt make a defense worse, he is an average defender. And when youre as elite of an offensive player as he is, and when you factor in how much energy and effort he puts out on the offensive end with all his off ball movement plus not being an elite athlete. I think its pretty impressive he is a solid average to above average defender.

But ya he's not an all defense kind of defender. This is pretty obvious to watch just from his own team. Watch Draymond on the defensive end, or watch Payton on the defensive end. Those are wow defenders, those are defenders that make big time impacts on the defensive end. That is what an all defense caliber defender looks like.

[a8bil]

Haha like I say on here all the time. When talking about defense there seems to be only 2 options

Player X is All Defense level of a defender
or
Player X is a horrible defender and is a massive liability

There seems to be no middle ground for many when it comes to individual defense.

Curry is a great example of a player that falls within that middle ground. Curry doesnt make a defense better, but he also doesnt make a defense worse, he is an average defender. And when youre as elite of an offensive player as he is, and when you factor in how much energy and effort he puts out on the offensive end with all his off ball movement plus not being an elite athlete. I think its pretty impressive he is a solid average to above average defender.

But ya he's not an all defense kind of defender. This is pretty obvious to watch just from his own team. Watch Draymond on the defensive end, or watch Payton on the defensive end. Those are wow defenders, those are defenders that make big time impacts on the defensive end. That is what an all defense caliber defender looks like.

What? Curry is always near the top in steals each year. You know as a GSW fan when a player get steals through gambles and poor defense. That is not Curry. He gets them while playing very good team defense...and perhaps avg. to good on ball defense. Curry is not a Wow defender, but neither is he an average defender.

[Duke4life831]

Haha like I say on here all the time. When talking about defense there seems to be only 2 options

Player X is All Defense level of a defender
or
Player X is a horrible defender and is a massive liability

There seems to be no middle ground for many when it comes to individual defense.

Curry is a great example of a player that falls within that middle ground. Curry doesnt make a defense better, but he also doesnt make a defense worse, he is an average defender. And when youre as elite of an offensive player as he is, and when you factor in how much energy and effort he puts out on the offensive end with all his off ball movement plus not being an elite athlete. I think its pretty impressive he is a solid average to above average defender.

But ya he's not an all defense kind of defender. This is pretty obvious to watch just from his own team. Watch Draymond on the defensive end, or watch Payton on the defensive end. Those are wow defenders, those are defenders that make big time impacts on the defensive end. That is what an all defense caliber defender looks like.

What? Curry is always near the top in steals each year. You know as a GSW fan when a player get steals through gambles and poor defense. That is not Curry. He gets them while playing very good team defense...and perhaps avg. to good on ball defense. Curry is not a Wow defender, but neither is he an average defender.

Steals is a meaningless stat. You can be a great on ball defender and get very little steals, you can be a horrible on ball defender and get lots of steals. The steal stat means nothing. Just like the blocked shots stat means nothing about how good a big man is at defense.

And ya I think Curry is a solid average to above average defender. I dont think that is a crazy take at all. Just to throw out some guards that are better defenders than Curry

Smart
Payton
Jrue
Lonzo
Caruso
CP3
Thybulle
Butler
Dejonte Murray
Dort

That is 10 guys off the top of my head that are all better defenders than Curry. Again All Defense level defenders are the kind of defenders that make you say "wow" when watching them on defense. That isn't Curry. Again this isn't me saying Curry sucks on defense either. I think Curry is a solid average to above average defender. I think that is a pretty reasonable take.

[a8bil]

Haha like I say on here all the time. When talking about defense there seems to be only 2 options

Player X is All Defense level of a defender
or
Player X is a horrible defender and is a massive liability

There seems to be no middle ground for many when it comes to individual defense.

Curry is a great example of a player that falls within that middle ground. Curry doesnt make a defense better, but he also doesnt make a defense worse, he is an average defender. And when youre as elite of an offensive player as he is, and when you factor in how much energy and effort he puts out on the offensive end with all his off ball movement plus not being an elite athlete. I think its pretty impressive he is a solid average to above average defender.

But ya he's not an all defense kind of defender. This is pretty obvious to watch just from his own team. Watch Draymond on the defensive end, or watch Payton on the defensive end. Those are wow defenders, those are defenders that make big time impacts on the defensive end. That is what an all defense caliber defender looks like.

What? Curry is always near the top in steals each year. You know as a GSW fan when a player get steals through gambles and poor defense. That is not Curry. He gets them while playing very good team defense...and perhaps avg. to good on ball defense. Curry is not a Wow defender, but neither is he an average defender.

Steals is a meaningless stat. You can be a great on ball defender and get very little steals, you can be a horrible on ball defender and get lots of steals. The steal stat means nothing. Just like the blocked shots stat means nothing about how good a big man is at defense.

And ya I think Curry is a solid average to above average defender. I dont think that is a crazy take at all. Just to throw out some guards that are better defenders than Curry

Smart
Payton
Jrue
Lonzo
Caruso
CP3
Thybulle
Butler
Dejonte Murray
Dort

That is 10 guys off the top of my head that are all better defenders than Curry. Again All Defense level defenders are the kind of defenders that make you say "wow" when watching them on defense. That isn't Curry. Again this isn't me saying Curry sucks on defense either. I think Curry is a solid average to above average defender. I think that is a pretty reasonable take.

I disagree only with your statement that steals are meaningless...steals that are the product of gambles are meaningless, but you know as a GSW fan that Curry's steals are not = Ellis's steals. Curry's are often the finishing playing of great on ball defense. He sees when the playmaker is being frustrated into a bad pass and he steps in front of it for a steal. That's why Klay and Curry have been such a dynamic duo defensively. Klay forces bad passes, Curry makes them pay for it.