Brandon Jennings: "It’s easier to be KD, Bron, and etc, You gone need a a lot of training trying be Steph Curry though"

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Re: Brandon Jennings: "It’s easier to be KD, Bron, and etc, You gone need a a lot of training trying be Steph Curry thou 

Post#41 » by SFrush » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:58 pm

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Kalela wrote:I get where he is coming from but I am not sure it applies to KD. KD is a stick figure who couldn't bench what I can bench. His height and wingspan definitely helps him a lot but he is always an elite shooter and that is come from training and hard-work.


Shooting is 90% genetics 10% work...


I don't agree. Steph actually had to revamp his shot in high school.
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Post#42 » by AmIWrongDude » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:05 pm

I'm sure having a dad that's an NBA player helps as well. There's athletic freaks that never sniff KD and Bron's success and there's also a ton of kids of NBA players that never pan out.
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Post#43 » by Edrees » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:09 pm

The way I see it more people can become Curry if they train hard like Curry does. You can't be Lebron or KD unless you are born into a freak like body, not even 1% of NBA players ever born have the body to do it. So depends what you mean by "easier." KD and Lebron is "harder" because its literally impossible unless you win the genetic lottery. Impossible is the highest level of "hard"
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Post#44 » by blitz41 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:20 pm

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blitz41 wrote:Don't buy it, not at the level that steph/durant/lebron/insert mvp is at. There are only 24 hours in a day and at that level I find it impossible to believe any of these greats are practicing and working any less then the others.


Not many people in this world can be around nba players and practice on nba courts since childhood ..and can ask one of the better shooters in nba history how to tweak their jumper anytime they want. Also, none of these genetic benefits people talk about would be realized without an incredible work ethic. An argument can be made that steph has an all time great work ethic.


Oh he definitely has an all time great work ethic, I'm not denigrating him at all. All I was saying was every nba mvp basically ever has had an all time great work ethic, you don't get that level without it, regardless of whatever physical gifts you have or don't have
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Post#45 » by tundraknight » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:22 pm

Wow I never knew ultra rare generational players with the combination of physical profiles and skill like Lebron and KD were easy to be.

I guess I’ll tell myself to grow to 6”9 to 7”0 with world class athleticism/speed, shooting, since it so easy.

Now that we all know the secret of how easy it is, Lebron and KD type players are going to start growing on trees.

Most of us realgm posters should now have the opportunity to to play in the NBA with this knowledge.
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Post#46 » by HMFFL » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:25 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Let's piss on LeBron & KD for the millionth time. It's basically what the general board has turned into, *yawn*. If you think you can practise as hard as Curry and be as good as him, be my guess. He also has incredible talent, such as LeBron & KD. No way to replicate it. In the best-case scenario, you'll be Seth Curry which is still awesome. Brandon trying to create controversy just to be remembered, cloutchasing


I don't think Lebron or KD are being pissed on at all. There's no disrespect at all and I agree with Brandon. Seems to be common sense.

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Post#47 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:25 pm

most of the people here are little, but it is extremely difficult for taller men in any sport to develop the skills footwork and coordination of smaller ones thats being taken for granted in this discussion. you may think theres "oh if curry was durants height he would avg 60 ppg" it doenst work like that.
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Post#48 » by BrianFitz » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:26 pm

tundraknight wrote:Wow I never knew ultra rare generational players with the combination of physical profiles and skill like Lebron and KD were easy to be.

I guess I’ll tell myself to grow to 6”9 to 7”0 with world class athleticism/speed, shooting, since it so easy.

Now that we all know the secret of how easy it is, Lebron and KD type players are going to start growing on trees.

Most of us realgm posters should now have the opportunity to to play in the NBA with this knowledge.


Clearly the whole thing went way over your head. From what you just wrote - you pretty much agree with the tweet.
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Post#49 » by infinite11285 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:31 pm

How are we defining "becoming Steph", "KD", or "LeBron?"

All three have generational, God-given ability and work ethic to do what only they can do. I'm of the opinion that you can't "work" on becoming either of the three.
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Post#50 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:33 pm

SFrush wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Kalela wrote:I get where he is coming from but I am not sure it applies to KD. KD is a stick figure who couldn't bench what I can bench. His height and wingspan definitely helps him a lot but he is always an elite shooter and that is come from training and hard-work.


Shooting is 90% genetics 10% work...


I don't agree. Steph actually had to revamp his shot in high school.


ok 99.9999999% genetics then
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Post#51 » by Danny1616 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:39 pm

Genetics and natural gifts played a role.

Steph has much more natural talent than his father and his brother.

His hand-eye coordination, balance, control, awareness, anticipation, vision, IQ, quickness, shiftiness is unmatched and you can't just teach that stuff. These are attributes that Steve Nash had, but Curry is just on another level. Athleticism is not simply speed and jumping ability. Combine that with an incredible work-ethic and you get an MVP.

Curry essentially maximized his incredible natural talent. I would never say what Curry does is something the average person could do ,even with an insane work-ethic. They can't. Even his brother couldn't and he was given the same resources and is known to have a great work-ethic as well.
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Post#52 » by michaelm » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:48 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:I'm firmly convinced that a good part of Curry's ability is God-given. It's not all work ethic.

Yea, he obviously has freakish hand eye co-ordination, and as LeBron has said a huge motor. Many/most players are better endowed with fast twitch muscle fibres/are faster and able to jump higher, but I wonder how many would out run him over 10,000 metres or more.
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Post#53 » by Sedale Threatt » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:49 pm

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Sedale Threatt wrote:If hard work and training is all it took, you'd see lots of Steph Currys. For example, by all accounts Avery Johnson had an insane work ethic, and he wasn't in the same galaxy as a shooter. It's easy to look at freak athletes/specimens and see their gifts, but something like, say, hand-eye coordination doesn't register. Another example, I remember reading an anecdote about Steve Nash that he could pick up his golf clubs after not playing for extended periods and still hit in the low 70s. That's nuts. Many people play their entire lives and don't shoot that well, let alone with little to no practice. So while you obviously have to work your ass off to hone skills like his, it's always seemed pretty obvious that Steph is insanely gifted, to an extent we've never really seen before.


Love Nash and think he's got the GOAT coordination in NBA history next to Steph, but I have to believe that's hyperbole. There are Div 1 college players who can't shoot in the low 70s consistently. It takes in insane amount of reps and practice to even sniff that.


Could be. But I've read vaguely similar stories about Jerry West, maybe not shooting well after long breaks but setting course records at esteemed country clubs and the like. I definitely didn't take it to mean Nash could do it every single time, but regularly enough to serve as an example of his exceptional hand-eye coordination. The point being: There's a lot more going on with elite level shooters than just hard work, and there's a lot more to athletic ability than just being able to run fast or jump high.
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Post#54 » by DCasey91 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 pm

Yes size matters at the end of the day in sports, and size with skill gives you a huge advantage. Now some body types thrive where others have more difficulty but that’s the discipline you choose.

To be undersized relative to your peers (this isn’t for Curry unless you believe he’s a shooting guard which he is essentially) you need an over exhaust of skill.

Messi for example has advantages being smaller as you are much more nimble just like in Curry’s case.

But the huge drawback is Basketball is by far the most exclusive not inclusive sport in the world because height matters and because the % of the male population of talent pool to pick from gets magnitudes smaller the further you go up.

It’s probably the most wide range talent sport in the world imo. Hence why the top 25 are super ego driven holistically because there’s maybe 15 that’s competiting for spots 10-20 in the world. That is such a small number relative wise.

Other sports there’s a bucketload more that will outperform you if you rock up out of shape, not giving a **** and **** around which even superstars do lol. They get very comfortable

Cough cough* Harden could be 20 pounds overweight and drop 20/8/8 after a night at the strippers like it’s a walk in the park because it is consistently doesn’t mean he’s performing great it’s the comp that’s small. Big fish little pond

Just to get an idea there’s been 7 footers than got a job (even today) in the NBA where there’s probably 1,000 more skilled/better basketballers out there.

Why did they make it? Height.

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Post#55 » by DCasey91 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:02 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:I'm firmly convinced that a good part of Curry's ability is God-given. It's not all work ethic.


No one is stopping any NBA player to run until they are spewing and blowing opponents up. Yes you need a motor but there isn’t anything stopping these athletes some are just lazy on the court.

That’s takes a lot of hard work, disclipline and dedication.

Yes he has god given abilities so does every other top tier talented sportsmen in the whole world.

The door doesn’t ever open by just working “hard” you need extremely high innate talent to be a superstar the rest is up to you.

Ben Simmons anyone?

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Post#56 » by Ben-N1ce » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:03 pm

Nah. In most sports if you're bigger faster and stronger you're at a disadvantage..
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Post#57 » by Lalouie » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:03 pm

not even close lebron's best attribute is his brutish size, and kd is 8'tall. no matter what any team does kd/lebron cannot be stopped.

curry had to develop work arounds. i wouldn't be surprised if his release is a result of being undersized because it looks like he had to heave his shots quickly growing up. all in all it worked out i guess ;) ;) ;)
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Post#58 » by Soca » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
SFrush wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Shooting is 90% genetics 10% work...


I don't agree. Steph actually had to revamp his shot in high school.


ok 99.9999999% genetics then


You clearly have no idea how hard it is to revamp your shot. That takes a lot more than 10 percent of work with muscle memory and having to retrain your brain when you've been shooting a certain way for so long.
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Post#59 » by og15 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:09 pm

Why do people think elite shooting is all practice? It really isn't, we aren't all born with equal hand eye coordination.
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Post#60 » by og15 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:11 pm

Soca wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
SFrush wrote:
I don't agree. Steph actually had to revamp his shot in high school.


ok 99.9999999% genetics then


You clearly have no idea how hard it is to revamp your shot. That takes a lot more than 10 percent of work with muscle memory and having retrain your brain when you've been shooting a certain way for so long.

Revamping your shot is harder the older you are. Most guys can do it pretty easily in highschool. I say this from experience, I've revamped my shot 3 times now, first in highschool, then twice after because of injuries that made it difficult to shoot like I used to. It's a lot of work, but it was pretty easy when I was in highschool. The other two times, there are more growing pains.

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