Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Did Lebron intentionally hit Stewart?

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#501 » by eyeatoma » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:37 pm

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He punched Stew (on purpose) with a closed fist. A player who was defenseless. The Lebron defenders have been out in full force for 24 hours+
Yup, it's hilarious the lengths they go to defend him.

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Post#502 » by Son Goku 25 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:39 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:Stewart low-key needs some therapy. Not excusing what Lebron did but dam Stewart just straight up mentally lost it with that behavior.


It's not that simple.

Depending on where you grow up and if a man hits you and feels safe or as someone pointed out doesn't apologize you're gonna ** him up no matter what. I don't mind what Stewart did because it was in the heat of the moment, after watching lwbron fully knowing what he was doing I don't feel bad for lebron and what was coming for him.

Put yourself in his position and tell me how you'd respond given the entire situation.
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Post#503 » by DNice68 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:40 pm

bstein14 wrote:Good news is Stewart knows the penalty for violently swinging your closed fist into someone's face is just a game. Might come in handy on Sunday when he plays the Lakers.

If he swings Sunday, he’s out for the year.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#504 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:40 pm

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whitehops wrote:what a joke.

not condoning stewart's behaviour but he didn't even TOUCH a player on the opposing team yet he got suspended longer than the guy who actually punched him in the face. it's almost like the league is saying, "punching someone in the face isn't cool but getting mad about being punched in the face REALLY isn't cool".

for those that are familiar with letterkenny i wouldn't be surprised if lebron came down with the "native flu" for their rematch this coming sunday.


Stewart was running over coaches and referees trying to get back to Lebron.

I would also be fine with both players getting a 4 game suspension, but this feels fair.


Stewart is getting 2 games
LeBron is getting one. News is out.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32692958/nba-suspends-lebron-james-one-game-isaiah-stewart-two-games-involvement-sunday-altercation


Honestly thats disappointing for both. Stewart has a history that brings up his character into play. One would think mandatory therapy would help with his behavioral issues.

Lebron getting one game off seems wrong also.

The match up I want to see is Draymond and Stewart playing "defense" on each other.
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Post#505 » by art_tatum » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:40 pm

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If just find it funny LeBron starts backing up to keep at least a 30 foot separation between him and Stewart even tho there's like a million people between them.


So what you want him to do? Throw himself into a fight for what? That's foolish if you're a top tier star in the league.


No just stand there lol don't be afraid and run off. He's not reaching within 10 ft. I just found it funny anyways. Lebron can run into the locker room and it wouldn't be wrong. Just funnier.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#506 » by infinite11285 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:41 pm

So with one dirty hit, LeBron;
-willed his team to victory while trailing;
-assisted the Pistons tank;
-got some added rest;
-AND got the Lakers some cap relief?

The man is playing 7D Chess while we’re playing Pong.
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Post#507 » by mademan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:42 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:I'd love to see some of you get knocked the ** out and then put in jail and see how you react.

Pretty much what happened with Stewart. Lebron definitely knw what he was doing.


I mean everybody's allowed to react. Stewart's first push towards Lebron is acceptable. It's around the 3rd or 4th time he tries to break free and run through 15 people to get to Lebron that it becomes problematic. Like ive been saying for a while, guys get hit with an elbow to the face like 20 times if not more a season. Sometimes as hard or harder than what Lebron did to Stewart. Stewart's reaction almost never happens
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Post#508 » by The4thHorseman » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:42 pm

LA plays tomorrow and Wednesday so Lebron probably would have sat out for 1 of those anyways. :lol:
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#509 » by Hornet Mania » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:43 pm

Lebron getting only one game reeks of favoritism. They should have gotten at least 2-4 games apiece, and the same penalty for both regardless of what number the league settled on. Lebron for sucker punching a guy in the head in a flash of anger and Stewart for everything that occurred beyond the initial 'hold me back bro' phase.
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Post#510 » by Michael Jackson » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:43 pm

whitehops wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:that's a fair resolution if people like it or not. It was LeBron's fault it started and he got his game, which is appropriate IMHO. Stewart could have walked away with no suspension but literally disrupted and potentially could have injured more people. LeBron was wrong... Stewart made the matter worse. You can't justify Stewart in saying his emotions just got away, or then you are saying LeBron's emotions getting away from him was also justified. Stewart needs the lesson though, if you are wronged you can't keep going back. Mind you this happened in Detroit too where the history makes the issue even bigger. Also if this was Obi Toppin and Wendel Carter Jr and it happened in Orlando likely none of us would know about it.


retaliation often gets punished more than the initial incident, whether it's right or wrong. but that system only works to deter people from retaliating if the initial incident is appropriately punished. that way, people that get sucker punched have faith that the league will bring them justice.

the league giving lebron ONE GAME for blatantly sucker punching someone and then suspending that person two games when they didn't even touch an opposing player (though he did fly off the handle and should get suspended) is nowhere near justice.

i bet stewart in this situation hasn't learned a single lesson other than next time someone sucker punches him, punch him right back because that's the closest thing to justice he'll get.



This isn't the greatest case of injustice ever. It was a bitch move that happens fairly often in the NBA. Stewarts follow up actions put more people in harms way than LeBron's did. LeBron has to share some of that because he initiated it, but Stewart running through Cade could have injured Cade and effected his future. I absolutely think Russ and AD should get something for egging him on though because that was likely worse than what LBJ did. LeBron was a heat of the moment crime. Wrong and punishable. Stewart took the retaliation too far. If I get in a fight and I take out somebody else not involved in that fight, that's on me.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#511 » by zimpy27 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:43 pm

Seems fair.

Stewarts behaviour was a bad look.
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Post#512 » by eyeatoma » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:43 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:I'd love to see some of you get knocked the ** out and then put in jail and see how you react.

Pretty much what happened with Stewart. Lebron definitely knw what he was doing.


I mean everybody's allowed to react. Stewart's first push towards Lebron is acceptable. It's around the 3rd or 4th time he tries to break free and run through 15 people to get to Lebron that it becomes problematic. Like ive been saying for a while, guys get hit with an elbow to the face like 20 times if not more a season. Sometimes as hard or harder than what Lebron did to Stewart. Stewart's reaction almost never happens


Keep changing the narrative saying that LeBron elbowed him. LeBron turned, aimed and closed fist punched the man in the face. You could also see his facial expression when he did it, dude was looking to hurt him. Any more alternate facts you'd like to spread?
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Post#513 » by DNice68 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:45 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
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Stewart was running over coaches and referees trying to get back to Lebron.

I would also be fine with both players getting a 4 game suspension, but this feels fair.


Stewart is getting 2 games
LeBron is getting one. News is out.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32692958/nba-suspends-lebron-james-one-game-isaiah-stewart-two-games-involvement-sunday-altercation


Honestly thats disappointing for both. Stewart has a history that brings up his character into play. One would think mandatory therapy would help with his behavioral issues.

Lebron getting one game off seems wrong also.

The match up I want to see is Draymond and Stewart playing "defense" on each other.

What LeBron did was wrong, but I would be lying if I said ‘Stewart will not have another incident like this again’. Seeing him in other incidents leads me to believe it will.
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Post#514 » by hisairness » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:45 pm

I always thought the term "bronsexuals" was really silly and cringe but this thread made me seriously reconsider its validity.
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Post#515 » by mademan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:45 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:Look what he did to Embiid last year? To Draymond. There are tons of things he's done.

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He punched Stew (on purpose) with a closed fist. A player who was defenseless. The Lebron defenders have been out in full force for 24 hours+
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To be clear, you guys think it's more likely that Lebron made a concious decision to punch Stewart in the face in front of 15 cameras than it is for him to be trying to throw Stewart's arm off of him and made contact with the face instead?

This is legit the problem in so many social situations these days. Everybody thinks that the actions of people is calculated malice when it's almost always incompetence (or in this case, reckless).
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Post#516 » by Son Goku 25 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:45 pm

mademan wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:I'd love to see some of you get knocked the ** out and then put in jail and see how you react.

Pretty much what happened with Stewart. Lebron definitely knw what he was doing.


I mean everybody's allowed to react. Stewart's first push towards Lebron is acceptable. It's around the 3rd or 4th time he tries to break free and run through 15 people to get to Lebron that it becomes problematic. Like ive been saying for a while, guys get hit with an elbow to the face like 20 times if not more a season. Sometimes as hard or harder than what Lebron did to Stewart. Stewart's reaction almost never happens


I disagree. Ppl don't generally go swinging their elbow and a closed fist at ppl in an NBA game, especially with the power Lebron likely has. I sont see players get hit where they bleed out like that in the league. Lebron knew what he was doing, Stewart went to talk to him and he didn't like what lebron said after and when he saw blood, tbat was a wrap.

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Post#517 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:46 pm

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Flash4thewin wrote:Stewart low-key needs some therapy. Not excusing what Lebron did but dam Stewart just straight up mentally lost it with that behavior.


It's not that simple.

Depending on where you grow up and if a man hits you and feels safe or as someone pointed out doesn't apologize you're gonna ** him up no matter what. I don't mind what Stewart did because it was in the heat of the moment, after watching lwbron fully knowing what he was doing I don't feel bad for lebron and what was coming for him.

Put yourself in his position and tell me how you'd respond given the entire situation.


Clearly not how he behaved. I can totally understand Stewart hitting back in the heat of the moment. I don't understand or condone Steward facing Lebron face to face and doing nothing. Then after Lebron already walked to the other side of the court go off with his best "Hold me bro" imitation. Had he decked Lebron, I get it, I don't condone it but I get it. You don't wait until the person is half a basketball court to go on some tirade.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#518 » by mademan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:47 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:
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Son Goku 25 wrote:I'd love to see some of you get knocked the ** out and then put in jail and see how you react.

Pretty much what happened with Stewart. Lebron definitely knw what he was doing.


I mean everybody's allowed to react. Stewart's first push towards Lebron is acceptable. It's around the 3rd or 4th time he tries to break free and run through 15 people to get to Lebron that it becomes problematic. Like ive been saying for a while, guys get hit with an elbow to the face like 20 times if not more a season. Sometimes as hard or harder than what Lebron did to Stewart. Stewart's reaction almost never happens


I disagree. Ppl don't generally go swinging their elbow and a closed fist at ppl in an NBA game, especially with the power Lebron likely has. I sont see players get hit where they bleed out like that in the league. Lebron knew what he was doing, Stewart went to talk to him and he didn't like what lebron said after and when he saw blood, tbat was a wrap.

Most ppls Animal instincts will come out.




This is literally a week ago. KD makes no attempt to go around KO and just forearm shivers him in the neck and then throws him down. Not as much force but much more disrespectful. KO walks it off. If he doesnt, KD gets suspended.

Chit like this happens a lot. Chit like what Stewart doesnt. He's allowed to react, but that reaction buys you seconds. Once it gets to minutes, you gotta calm tf down
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Post#519 » by azcatz11 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:52 pm

mademan wrote:
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He punched Stew (on purpose) with a closed fist. A player who was defenseless. The Lebron defenders have been out in full force for 24 hours+
Yup, it's hilarious the lengths they go to defend him.

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To be clear, you guys think it's more likely that Lebron made a concious decision to punch Stewart in the face in front of 15 cameras than it is for him to be trying to throw Stewart's arm off of him and made contact with the face instead?

This is legit the problem in so many social situations these days. Everybody thinks that the actions of people is calculated malice when it's almost always incompetence (or in this case, reckless).


Lebron has been around enough and has more spatial awareness on the court than any NBA in history. He has full control of his body and knows exactly what he's doing. If he wanted to hit Stew in the left Quadricep , he could've made that happen.

So yes, I do believe it was intentional. He lost composure and punched him in the face. I believe both players should be suspended the same amount of games
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Post#520 » by The4thHorseman » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
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Son Goku 25 wrote:I'd love to see some of you get knocked the ** out and then put in jail and see how you react.

Pretty much what happened with Stewart. Lebron definitely knw what he was doing.


I mean everybody's allowed to react. Stewart's first push towards Lebron is acceptable. It's around the 3rd or 4th time he tries to break free and run through 15 people to get to Lebron that it becomes problematic. Like ive been saying for a while, guys get hit with an elbow to the face like 20 times if not more a season. Sometimes as hard or harder than what Lebron did to Stewart. Stewart's reaction almost never happens


Keep changing the narrative saying that LeBron elbowed him. LeBron turned, aimed and closed fist punched the man in the face. You could also see his facial expression when he did it, dude was looking to hurt him. Any more alternate facts you'd like to spread?

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