Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

[mademan]

Yup, it's hilarious the lengths they go to defend him.

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To be clear, you guys think it's more likely that Lebron made a concious decision to punch Stewart in the face in front of 15 cameras than it is for him to be trying to throw Stewart's arm off of him and made contact with the face instead?

This is legit the problem in so many social situations these days. Everybody thinks that the actions of people is calculated malice when it's almost always incompetence (or in this case, reckless).

Lebron has been around enough and has more spatial awareness on the court than any NBA in history. He has full control of his body and knows exactly what he's doing. If he wanted to hit Stew in the left Quadricep , he could've made that happen.

So yes, I do believe it was intentional. He lost composure and punched him in the face. I believe both players should be suspended the same amount of games

Well ya, there's no point in arguing then. You'd think 20 years of NBA ball would buy you the benefit of the doubt here

[Statlanta]

I don't think there should have been suspensions. The ejections were enough. There was no fight. Just an overreaction to a reckless play.

[Pharmcat]

Stewart low-key needs some therapy. Not excusing what Lebron did but dam Stewart just straight up mentally lost it with that behavior.

It's not that simple.

Depending on where you grow up and if a man hits you and feels safe or as someone pointed out doesn't apologize you're gonna ** him up no matter what. I don't mind what Stewart did because it was in the heat of the moment, after watching lwbron fully knowing what he was doing I don't feel bad for lebron and what was coming for him.

Put yourself in his position and tell me how you'd respond given the entire situation.

he and lebron were right next to each other, and he didnt go after him. He only started huffin and puffin when others were around to hold him back. All a show.

[HMFFL]

Good news is Stewart knows the penalty for violently swinging your closed fist into someone's face is just a game. Might come in handy on Sunday when he plays the Lakers.

I wouldn't doubt if the league informed them both what will occur if anything happens. The ratings should reach highs so nice job Lebron and the NBA.

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[Joshyjess]

Stewart really needed to try harder to keep his blood off of LeBron's hand. That kind of behaivour is just simply unacceptable.

[azcatz11]

To be clear, you guys think it's more likely that Lebron made a concious decision to punch Stewart in the face in front of 15 cameras than it is for him to be trying to throw Stewart's arm off of him and made contact with the face instead?

This is legit the problem in so many social situations these days. Everybody thinks that the actions of people is calculated malice when it's almost always incompetence (or in this case, reckless).

Lebron has been around enough and has more spatial awareness on the court than any NBA in history. He has full control of his body and knows exactly what he's doing. If he wanted to hit Stew in the left Quadricep , he could've made that happen.

So yes, I do believe it was intentional. He lost composure and punched him in the face. I believe both players should be suspended the same amount of games

Well ya, there's no point in arguing then. You'd think 20 years of NBA ball would buy you the benefit of the doubt here

I have no idea why he snapped. He was probably having a bad day or something but that doesn't mean you get to punch people in the face on a basketball court and get the benefit of the doubt. The fact they're not getting equal game suspensions is a travesty

[AmIWrongDude]

Pretty much what was expected. Not sure how anyone expected LeBron to get more than a game. He swung hard trying to get Stewart off him but wasn't trying to hit him in the face. LeBron isn't that dumb. He tried apologizing right away and also tried to get Stewart's number after the game to apologize to him and let him no it wasn't on purpose.

[Michael Jackson]

I don't think there should have been suspensions. The ejections were enough. There was no fight. Just an overreaction to a reckless play.

It is a precedent though. If it was two no names there would have not been a suspension but because it involved LeBron we and the media were all over it. Just can't brush it off. Stewarts reaction sealed that deal.

One thing, people laughing at LeBron for "running away" well he makes a mistake knew it and didn't need anymore fallout than he was getting. NBA as a business surely doesn't need LeBron throwing fists on TV. He did the right thing by staying away and doing the best to diffuse it after his part was over. He was guilty of his part for sure but he didn't need to add fuel to the fire at that point. Now AD and Russ jawing... OMG so childish.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Isiah Stewart looked bigger than LeBron to me. Basketball reference has them being about them same size. In football the guys in the white unifirns always look bigger to me than the guys in the dark uniforms even though they are really the same size.

[Son Goku 25]

Stewart low-key needs some therapy. Not excusing what Lebron did but dam Stewart just straight up mentally lost it with that behavior.

It's not that simple.

Depending on where you grow up and if a man hits you and feels safe or as someone pointed out doesn't apologize you're gonna ** him up no matter what. I don't mind what Stewart did because it was in the heat of the moment, after watching lwbron fully knowing what he was doing I don't feel bad for lebron and what was coming for him.

Put yourself in his position and tell me how you'd respond given the entire situation.

he and lebron were right next to each other, and he didnt go after him. He only started huffin and puffin when others were around to hold him back. All a show.

As Steve Smith pointed out, stwarrt went up to Lebron to hear what he had to say sort of like giving the benefit of doubt and seemed like he didn't like what Lebron said thinking he'd apologize.. the blood was the tipping point. I don't think Stwart is a fake tough guy.

[Soulyss]

What a bunch of ****. Zero reason for Stewart who ended up needing 5 stitches after being punched in the face deserved more games than Lelbow.

[mademan]

Lebron has been around enough and has more spatial awareness on the court than any NBA in history. He has full control of his body and knows exactly what he's doing. If he wanted to hit Stew in the left Quadricep , he could've made that happen.

So yes, I do believe it was intentional. He lost composure and punched him in the face. I believe both players should be suspended the same amount of games

Well ya, there's no point in arguing then. You'd think 20 years of NBA ball would buy you the benefit of the doubt here

I have no idea why he snapped. He was probably having a bad day or something but that doesn't mean you get to punch people in the face on a basketball court and get the benefit of the doubt. The fact they're not getting equal game suspensions is a travesty

Thats what you think. To be clear, you have no idea if it was intentional and neither do i. Im just saying, Lebron's had a much better reason to punch a lot of other people over the past 18 years. He's never done it before and this doesnt look anywhere near clear cut enough for you to just put it flatly. "Lebron has spatial awareness" lol.

It was a reckless play and he deserves whatever punishment the league gives him. He even tried to apologize right after, which you dont usually do when you snap and punch someone. I believe in going to someones rep when you cant really tell whats on their mind

[Michael Jackson]

Lebron has been around enough and has more spatial awareness on the court than any NBA in history. He has full control of his body and knows exactly what he's doing. If he wanted to hit Stew in the left Quadricep , he could've made that happen.

So yes, I do believe it was intentional. He lost composure and punched him in the face. I believe both players should be suspended the same amount of games

Well ya, there's no point in arguing then. You'd think 20 years of NBA ball would buy you the benefit of the doubt here

I have no idea why he snapped. He was probably having a bad day or something but that doesn't mean you get to punch people in the face on a basketball court and get the benefit of the doubt. The fact they're not getting equal game suspensions is a travesty

If stewart didn't over react, they wouldn't have gotten equal suspensions, in fact Stewart would have gotten no suspension and LeBron would be up for 1 game. Just like LBJ has to take responsibility for his stupid action, so does Stewart.

I bounced for a couple of years and I have obviously been in the middle of altercations, and I have seen innocent waitresses get a haymaker to the head. It is uncool. I've eaten more than a few fists in my life that weren't directed at me. Person throwing those fists is ultimately responsible for their contact. Even if they have been incited.

[mademan]

It's not that simple.

Depending on where you grow up and if a man hits you and feels safe or as someone pointed out doesn't apologize you're gonna ** him up no matter what. I don't mind what Stewart did because it was in the heat of the moment, after watching lwbron fully knowing what he was doing I don't feel bad for lebron and what was coming for him.

Put yourself in his position and tell me how you'd respond given the entire situation.

he and lebron were right next to each other, and he didnt go after him. He only started huffin and puffin when others were around to hold him back. All a show.

As Steve Smith pointed out, stwarrt went up to Lebron to hear what he had to say sort of like giving the benefit of doubt and seemed like he didn't like what Lebron said thinking he'd apologize.. the blood was the tipping point. I don't think Stwart is a fake tough guy.

I dont even think he was charging Lebron tbh. It looked more like DAJ and WB set him off

[SpreeChokeJob]

Well ya, there's no point in arguing then. You'd think 20 years of NBA ball would buy you the benefit of the doubt here

I have no idea why he snapped. He was probably having a bad day or something but that doesn't mean you get to punch people in the face on a basketball court and get the benefit of the doubt. The fact they're not getting equal game suspensions is a travesty

Thats what you think. To be clear, you have no idea if it was intentional and neither do i. Im just saying, Lebron's had a much better reason to punch a lot of other people over the past 18 years. He's never done it before and this doesnt look anywhere near clear cut enough for you to just put it flatly. "Lebron has spatial awareness" lol.

It was a reckless play and he deserves whatever punishment the league gives him. He even tried to apologize right after, which you dont usually do when you snap and punch someone. I believe in going to someones rep when you cant really tell whats on their mind

I see older players resorting to cheap tricks as they get older and can’t outplay the youngins. It’s pretty sad.

[MotownMadness]

If LeBron didn't give that quick glance at him a split second before he did it (along with using a closed fist) I could give him the benefit of the doubt. That just seals it for me that he lost his cool for that second and it was intentional.

[Son Goku 25]

People actually think that was unintentional by Lebron? Get the **** outta here. Lebron knew exactly what he was doing.
Yes, Stewart's reaction was over the top but how would you feel if somebody intentionally punched you in the face?

Also, who knows what Lebron said to Stewart after because Stewart didn't really go off until after their confrontation, I bet Lebron was talking down to him a bit, kind of like "Who are you?". Just speculation of course but Stewart's fuse wasn't lit until after they had words.

This.

And also mixed in with him seeing his blood.

[Michael Jackson]

he and lebron were right next to each other, and he didnt go after him. He only started huffin and puffin when others were around to hold him back. All a show.

As Steve Smith pointed out, stwarrt went up to Lebron to hear what he had to say sort of like giving the benefit of doubt and seemed like he didn't like what Lebron said thinking he'd apologize.. the blood was the tipping point. I don't think Stwart is a fake tough guy.

I dont even think he was charging Lebron tbh. It looked more like DAJ and WB set him off

I really think that is the case honestly. LeBron's reaction to it may have set him off too. He was moderately calm getting up and escalated after a few words.

[Richard4444]

Maybe, Stewart's reaction was the best reaction he could have although it is obviously wrong.

1) He made quite a spectacle. He showed how strong and hot-head he can be. He sold the image that he is tough and unpredictable. He probably scared LeBron a bit. He made a name for himself and he will be known worldwide among casual NBA fans as the man who scared LeBron. And he did not hurt anyone in the process.

2) The options to respond to aggression are awful. You always will be criticized, especially if you are a physically imposing player who should defend your weaker teammates.
If he stays quiet or lets himself be held by only 3 or 4 securities, he would be called a fake tough guy and would be accused of being afraid of LeBron.
If he actually hits LeBron, he would get a great suspension (it would hurt his rhythm and development) and would be viewed as an enemy of the league.

3) He got a small suspension. But it would not hurt the Pistons that want to tank. And these 2 game suspensions will not hurt his development. It will only give him a rest for some days.

[MotownMadness]

I actually didn't know Stewart was a boxer in high school as well. ESPN just digs into everything for material.