Hoopshype's "20 Greatest SFs ever" list

GSWFan1994 · Post #1 » by **GSWFan1994** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:52 pm

After posting the PF list yesterday, today I'm posting the SF list.

Here's the link if you wanna check the player's individual accolades & arguments and such.

So, without further ado:

1. LeBron James
2. Larry Bird
3. Kevin Durant
4. Julius Erving
5. Elgin Baylor
6. Scottie Pippen
7. John Havlicek
8. Kawhi Leonard
9. Rick Barry
10. Dominique Wilkins
11. James Worthy
12. Carmelo Anthony
13. Paul Pierce
14. Paul Arizin
15. Alex English
16. Bernard King
17. Adrian Dantley
18. Paul George
19. Jamaal Wilkes
20. Billy Cunningham

Any thoughts?

Cheers & discuss.

bstein14 · Post #2 » by **bstein14** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:59 pm

If you're talking "peak prime" Grant Hill 100% deserves to be on that list. If you're talking about entire body of work, Grant Hill still comes close and even with the injuries he put up over 17K career points 6K rebounds and 4k assists... He's ahead of where Paul George is today in career totals so not sure why someone like Paul George is on the list over him.

Lunartic · Post #3 » by **Lunartic** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:02 pm

I've got Paul Pierce over Carmelo but overall not a bad list

Freighttrain · Post #4 » by **Freighttrain** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:02 pm

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Paul Pierce should be higher than where he's currently at. For example, I don't see the case for him being ranked lower than Carmelo Anthony, but I'm sure interested in your reasoning!

Freighttrain · Post #5 » by **Freighttrain** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:03 pm

Lunartic wrote:I've got Paul Pierce over Carmelo but overall not a bad list

beat me to it by a second :lol:

RoxSteady · Post #6 » by **RoxSteady** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:07 pm

I'd move Bernard King up and 'Melo down a bit. King was among the very best in his prime. 'Melo is a great scorer, but I think his reputation is buoyed by having been surrounded by excellent role players in Denver and New York who masked how ball dominant he is.

Dr. J was an icon, but it's difficult to take too much away from KD or Bird.

Overall, not a bad list.

celticfan42487 · Post #7 » by **celticfan42487** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:09 pm

Yeah everything great aside from Pierce was clearly better than Melo

Post #8 » by **Capn'O** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:12 pm

I assume they're considering George Gervin a SG?

I would also put Pierce a few spots up.

wojoaderge · Post #9 » by **wojoaderge** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:17 pm

Pippen and Leonard shouldn't be above Hondo and Barry

xdrta+ · Post #10 » by **xdrta+** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:29 pm

wojoaderge wrote:Pippen and Leonard shouldn't be above Hondo and Barry

Barry is always underrated. I'd put him above all three of those guys.

donkeylips · Post #11 » by **donkeylips** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:30 pm

i like the list, but id add chris mullin

Lalouie · Post #12 » by **Lalouie** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:34 pm

i already have a prob with the top3

wojoaderge · Post #13 » by **wojoaderge** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:36 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
wojoaderge wrote:Pippen and Leonard shouldn't be above Hondo and Barry

Barry is always underrated. I'd put him above all three of those guys.

Me too

feyki · Post #14 » by **feyki** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:59 pm

Worthy

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rtiff68 · Post #15 » by **rtiff68** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:07 pm

Lalouie wrote:i already have a prob with the top3

Really?

Lalouie · Post #16 » by **Lalouie** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:18 pm

rtiff68 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:i already have a prob with the top3

Really?

yes, but admittedly i am a larry bird honk.
using several criteria, bird checks more boxes than the other two. he only falters in athleticism and defense, but athleticism is at the bottom of the checklist anyway.

i am in agreement with the overlooked drJ. his legacy is immense. without him basketball returns to the dark ages

eminence · Post #17 » by **eminence** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:23 pm

Think I'd still have DrJ just over KD. Agreeing on Pierce should be higher. But overall another pretty solid list.

rtiff68 · Post #18 » by **rtiff68** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:49 pm

Lalouie wrote:
rtiff68 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:i already have a prob with the top3

Really?

yes, but admittedly i am a larry bird honk.
using several criteria, bird checks more boxes than the other two. he only falters in athleticism and defense, but athleticism is at the bottom of the checklist anyway.

i am in agreement with the overlooked drJ. his legacy is immense. without him basketball returns to the dark ages

Maybe this is semantics on my part, but I guess (for me) there is a difference between "I'd flip those two, and/or move that guy up 2 spots" and "I have a problem with that." I actually have it LeBron, Bird, Durant, Dr. J, but wouldn't scoff if they were shuffled a bit.

Lalouie · Post #19 » by **Lalouie** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:00 pm

rtiff68 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
rtiff68 wrote:
Really?

yes, but admittedly i am a larry bird honk.
using several criteria, bird checks more boxes than the other two. he only falters in athleticism and defense, but athleticism is at the bottom of the checklist anyway.

i am in agreement with the overlooked drJ. his legacy is immense. without him basketball returns to the dark ages

Maybe this is semantics on my part, but I guess (for me) there is a difference between "I'd flip those two, and/or move that guy up 2 spots" and "I have a problem with that." I actually have it LeBron, Bird, Durant, Dr. J, but wouldn't scoff if they were shuffled a bit.

basketball is what it is. there's more goat nonsense and player/era comparisons than any other sport,,,prolly because a single player makes such a huge difference people get caught up in the individuality of it, and with individuality comes "my player is better than your player"

ForeverTFC · Post #20 » by **ForeverTFC** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:09 pm

KD over Bird. PG over Pierce.

What's your overall assessment of the list?