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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#141 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:36 am

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ITS TIME WE HAVE THAT TALKE ABOUT JULIUS RANDLE FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ON THE ROAD TO 10-72!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly.

We know Randle can put up numbers.

Its HOW he puts up numbers that people have a problem with.
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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#142 » by Mister Ed » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:36 am

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TheGreenArrow wrote:
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ITS TIME WE HAVE THAT TALKE ABOUT JULIUS RANDLE FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ON THE ROAD TO 10-72!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But but stats, throwing RJ into this to throw off the fact Randle is not a good player. If he not hoggin technical free throws or stealing rebounds, he’s willing to get a back court violation thinking he would get fouled. Not passing to better free throw shooters that’s wide open. Even if he is fouled, count him to miss 1 or both in the clutch, easy money.

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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#143 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:38 am

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Julius got exposed nationally folks!!!!!!!!!!

AGAIN IT MAY BE TIME TO HAVE THAT TALK ABOUT JULIUS RANDLE FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#144 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:38 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Going into the boxscore more, Randle had a 31.6 usage rate tonight

Obi had a 125.6 ORTG and 90.7 DRTG, Randle had a 100 ORTG and 101.4 DRTG

It's pretty simple to understand what's happening, when Obi is in the game the guards handle the ball more, and he hustles on defense.

The guards should be running our offense either way



That's the point, they can't when Randle plays, this has happened over and over again and the on/off ratings are getting to ridiculous levels on the season too. We have a 119.7 ORTG when Obi is on the court and 105.8 when he's off.
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Post#145 » by Phish Tank » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:38 am

might need to revoke Kemba's Bronx pass after he got his shot blocked by DeAndre.
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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#146 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:39 am

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Julius got exposed nationally folks!!!!!!!!!!

AGAIN IT MAY BE TIME TO HAVE THAT TALK ABOUT JULIUS RANDLE FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


the fake boston media and celtics fan who wanted to draft Brickillian 1st overall has an opinion about the knicks, that's nice!
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Post#147 » by Knick4Real » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:40 am

Imagine if All-Star Randle from last year never materialized -- and Obi actually became the Julius "replacement" Leon Rose originally intended...
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Post#148 » by omerome » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:40 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Going into the boxscore more, Randle had a 31.6 usage rate tonight :lol:

Obi had a 125.6 ORTG and 90.7 DRTG, Randle had a 100 ORTG and 101.4 DRTG

It's pretty simple to understand what's happening, when Obi is in the game the guards handle the ball more, and he hustles on defense.

What makes Obi fun to watch is that he's a constant threat because he moves well without the ball. And what I like is he's a pretty good finisher around the basket. His defensive assignment always has to pay attention to him and this leads to collapses and that leads to good opportunities for us.

Randle has ballhandlers so he doesn't have to bring the ball up each time and spend so much energy. Even at the end of the game, he could have passed the ball against the Laker pressure - even when the game was out of reach for them, but he didn't.
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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#149 » by GONYK » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:42 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Going into the boxscore more, Randle had a 31.6 usage rate tonight

Obi had a 125.6 ORTG and 90.7 DRTG, Randle had a 100 ORTG and 101.4 DRTG

It's pretty simple to understand what's happening, when Obi is in the game the guards handle the ball more, and he hustles on defense.

The guards should be running our offense either way



That's the point, they can't when Randle plays, this has happened over and over again and the on/off ratings are getting to ridiculous levels on the season too. We have a 119.7 ORTG when Obi is on the court.

That's more of a coaching issue than a Randle one.

The dude is who he is for the most part, and that player is short of a primary facilitator. It's on Thibs to manage it.
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Post#150 » by MeloNY » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:42 am

seren wrote: Noel needs to stay healthy. He is the crucial piece of the starting five.


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Post#151 » by RiseOfTheEmpire » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:42 am

DaGawd wrote:We really gonna drive Randle outta here one day… and go thru another long stretch wishing we had a player as good as him.. wash rinse repeat



The team is building, we have a young core, if he's gone, the train will keep running. This isn't a bum team with players looking for one year deals to get their numbers and get the **** out of here. That's the kind of team players like Randle are good for...last year's team. The post Melo, and heck, even some Melo teams. Stat stuffer who gives his team fringe success.

There was another dude like that on the Lakers tonight.

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Stats are great, but it's how a player puts up those stats. There would be a big difference between a Randle 20 10 and an Obi 20 10, and one of those would be better for the chemistry and development of everybody else on the team.
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Post#152 » by F N 11 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:43 am

Knick4Real wrote:Imagine if All-Star Randle from last year never materialized -- and Obi actually became the Julius "replacement" Leon Rose originally intended...

Still his fault. He takes the blame. Randle didn’t perform in playoffs and we didn’t let him play out his contract. I probably would of done the same, it was a feel good season. However this is a business And you don’t make decisions off of emotions.
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Post#153 » by Capn'O » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:43 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Going into the boxscore more, Randle had a 31.6 usage rate tonight

Obi had a 125.6 ORTG and 90.7 DRTG, Randle had a 100 ORTG and 101.4 DRTG

It's pretty simple to understand what's happening, when Obi is in the game the guards handle the ball more, and he hustles on defense.

The guards should be running our offense either way


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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#154 » by NYKnickerbocker » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:43 am

Didn’t get to watch the first 3 qtrs but it’s nice to see at least by the stats that RJ wasn’t a negative offensively finally. Quick got the shooters bounce on some big shots and Obi made some bigs shots and good plays.

Hopefully the starters are close to getting their heads out of their asses as a unit
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Re: PG: We won and I'm upset. 

Post#155 » by Mister Ed » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:44 am

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Jimmit79 wrote:People say Randle is not a superstar yet they are not satisfied with 20/15/5 so which is it do you expect superstar numbers or do you want to just bash him for being a good player asked to play like a superstar.

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Peoples expectations too high for Randle. He gotta be prime bron to be appreciated :lol:

You're right. The difference between Lebron and Randle is that Lebron has a high bball IQ.

Randle is a workhorse and has the skills to be a superstar. He would be successful like Lebron if he played smart. Then again, we would've never gotten him if he was a smart player.

Can't hate on Julius I guess. I just don't see us having any playoff success if he was our best player. Because you gotta play smart in the playoffs. And hard work can only get you so far.


Cmon, the difference between LeBron and Randle is light years. Randle is a hard worker but you can’t compare them. IMO, The Knicks need someone who can really run the offense and until they do, they will default to Randle as point forward. Randle doesn’t have the handle like the true great point forwards - it is what it is. And when we get that guy it’s on Thibs to have his guard run the offense, get ball movement and occasionally go to Randle to run plays.
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Post#156 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:44 am

Fck Melo’s Couch. He can buy another one.

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Post#157 » by K_ick_God » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:45 am

Wonder if Randle would draw interest from contenders. I'm starting to think no. Even though in theory there are not that many 20ppg scorers available by trade.
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Post#158 » by F N 11 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:45 am

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DaGawd wrote:We really gonna drive Randle outta here one day… and go thru another long stretch wishing we had a player as good as him.. wash rinse repeat



The team is building, we have a young core, if he's gone, the train will keep running. This isn't a bum team with players looking for one year deals to get their numbers and get the **** out of here. That's the kind of team players like Randle are good for...last year's team. The post Melo, and heck, even some Melo teams. Stat stuffer who gives his team fringe success.

There was another dude like that on the Lakers tonight.

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Stats are great, but it's how a player puts up those stats. There would be a big difference between a Randle 20 10 and an Obi 20 10, and one of those would be better for the chemistry and development of everybody else on the team.


No one likes this Randle, not even Randle fans. We like the one that attacks and play with energy. This one is playing like he got paid.

Unfortunately we got career year when contract is coming up. It happens.

Derrick Williams balled out contract year too
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Post#159 » by god shammgod » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:47 am

i don't want to argue about randle helping or not...buuuuut....since the whole plan is supposed to be based on trading for a star player to come play with him, does he seem like the sort of player that some star player is gonna want to come play with ? well....good luck with that.
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Post#160 » by RiseOfTheEmpire » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:48 am

omerome wrote:
Guano wrote:Gotta enjoy these wins to off set the pain when we get blown out in the play in game.


Life is all about perspective.

It's hard to enjoy wins when each game makes you feel you're dealing with hypertension. I just want the team to play the basketball we played in the preseason when the ball movement was beautiful to watch.


I get it. The reason why it's frustrating is because we actually get to see it still during the game...then it goes away.

Anybody else laughed when Reggie Miller got nervous for us when Randle got his 5th? I was like naaa, we good. :lol: And when I saw Obi come in, I knew somebody on the floor was gonna light up...and Quick did. YOu think he gets those shots with Mr. I Got This on the floor?

And sure enough.....like clockwork, he went out, team played better, came back in, palms got sweaty.
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