Negrodamus wrote:but he's a great role player; not someone to build around.
You mean, like Ben ?
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Negrodamus wrote:but he's a great role player; not someone to build around.
Wilfried wrote:Negrodamus wrote:but he's a great role player; not someone to build around.
You mean, like Ben ?
Madd Squabbles wrote:Got this from the Kings board. Thought it was interesting:
To be honest I think both Hali and Mitchell are better PGs. They aren't better players, but they both run the team better than Fox.
The biggest thing for Hali is to start shooting the damn ball. If you are going to let defenders go under all the time it makes it so much easier to defend. Teams don't need to go over the screen against both Hali and Fox, for different reasons.
Actually, I can't think of another team where defenders go under the screen as much as against the Kings.
Bum Adebayo wrote:Bum Simmons himself is not a difference maker, so why do you expect a difference maker in return for him? what you are trying to do is to fleece the other team.
Bum Adebayo wrote:It's important to understand, when I say that Simmons is not a difference maker (in playoffs at least), I'm not saying he doesn't have sky-high potential. So it could make sense to trade for him if some other team thinks can fix him, just not on the basis of his actual on-court performance.
Kobblehead wrote:Bum Adebayo wrote:It's important to understand, when I say that Simmons is not a difference maker (in playoffs at least), I'm not saying he doesn't have sky-high potential. So it could make sense to trade for him if some other team thinks can fix him, just not on the basis of his actual on-court performance.
I agree that he's not a difference maker in the playoffs. His playoff career is that of a MLE player. I disagree that he has sky-high potential, though. Guys with actual potential flash exponential growth. Simmons' development trajectory has been flatlined since Montverde. He's literally the same player he was 6 years ago.
Bum Adebayo wrote:Kobblehead wrote:Bum Adebayo wrote:It's important to understand, when I say that Simmons is not a difference maker (in playoffs at least), I'm not saying he doesn't have sky-high potential. So it could make sense to trade for him if some other team thinks can fix him, just not on the basis of his actual on-court performance.
I agree that he's not a difference maker in the playoffs. His playoff career is that of a MLE player. I disagree that he has sky-high potential, though. Guys with actual potential flash exponential growth. Simmons' development trajectory has been flatlined since Montverde. He's literally the same player he was 6 years ago.
It's potential that won't be realized because he is lazy and doesn't want to improve, how is this hard to understand? the guys that show a good rate of improvement is because they work hard, whe I say high potential I mean in relation to his talent, if he wanted he would be much better than he is now, whereas many other guys can't say the same because their innate talent is what it is.
kuclas wrote:Pretty obvious teams like the kings would rather be bad and not trade for Simmons.
No team is willing to give up any assets for Simmons of any value to help the sixers win games down the stretch. Just role players and draft picks
So if Simmons doesn’t want to show up. He’s gonna to sit out the entire season and lose a ton of money.
SixthStreet wrote:kuclas wrote:Pretty obvious teams like the kings would rather be bad and not trade for Simmons.
No team is willing to give up any assets for Simmons of any value to help the sixers win games down the stretch. Just role players and draft picks
So if Simmons doesn’t want to show up. He’s gonna to sit out the entire season and lose a ton of money.
I think we are getting to the point in the season that someone would trade for Simmons precisely because they have cover to ice him for the rest of the season for mental illness and further a one season tank job.
Madd Squabbles wrote:What do you think of this trade:
Sixers get - Hield, Barnes, Bagley, Mitchell, and top 2 protected FRP
Kings get - Simmons, Harris, and Shake
Maxey - Mitchell
Hield - Curry
Green - Thybulle
Barnes - Niang
Embiid - Drummond
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The barber dude that cuts my kids hair is a Celtics fan. Super cool guy! We were talking Ben Simmons the other day. From the casual fans perspective (which is what he is), he basically said that he would give up Schroeder and filler for Ben Simmons. Not even Marcus Smart was on the table. Again, he's just a casual fan like myself, but I really couldn't believe that was all he said he would personally offer. I didn't want to take the conversation any further after that and I kept everything cool and casual. I think his value is somewhere in between what the casual fan thinks and what Daryl Morey expects to get. So we are talking role players and picks at this point.