LamarWho wrote:This team needs a point guard bad. Does John Wall wanna be here?
that's a desperation move but depending on who we give up I'd be open to it.
at least his IQ is better than RWB
LamarWho wrote:This team needs a point guard bad. Does John Wall wanna be here?
Captain Ballmer wrote:Well, Porzingis was great lately but now good game from him even with Luka. Is J.Kidd better than Carlisle now? wow.
We can't expect the same results of last playoffs when the material we put in is way different(kind of small) such as No Kawhi-Batum, inserted midgets as Kennard and Bledsoe instead. We outmatched physically from Porzingis god damn.
I don't know about pointguard addition because I think more importantly we need someone to score efficiently in the paint(Miss you Kawhi)
Wammy Giveaway wrote:This was clearly a game the Mavericks HAD TO win. They knew clearly that Clippers were on a back-to-back skid, and if they were to get them while on their stay at the Staples Crypt, it would have been the Clipper's first 3-game losing streak of the season. Instead, thanks to their playoffs experience, Clippers prevented the 3-game losing streak, forcing Mavs to relive the playoff series that got away - one game away from a 3-0 series lead, which would have given Dallas the automatic win as no team in NBA history has ever come back from down 3-0. So they got this instead.
As it stands, the Clippers are just too small. Zubac has a peak, Ibaka is on a minutes restriction, Hartenstein is somewhat foul prone. Even though the center position has been dying out in favor of postionless basketball where jump shooting is king, they still need a traditional big to psyche opponents out. One who feasts at the rim one hundred percent, is content with his limitations, can go toe to toe against the opponent's own big foe, and more importantly, can spare the guards and shooters from having to do their own shots at the rim. The seven foot center may be dead, but Clippers need an equalizer.
Which is why I have a feeling that DeAndre Jordan may become available. There is a rumor within NBA circles that Lakers may look to trade him as they've not been pleased with his play, partly due to age but also because they signed him mainly as a secret weapon against the Clippers (originally they wanted Chris Paul). If Jordan gets released, what better team to reinvigorate his love of the game and defense than to go back to the team who drafted him and became the longest tenured Clipper of all time. They already have former Clipper Eric Bledsoe, and they've proven to be very good at resurrecting careers at the end of their ropes. Clippers were once the place where careers ended - not this era.
TrueLAfan wrote:I don't think we need/want DJ; he's still an old school center, and his production drop has almost as much to do with the game (continuing) to move away from him as it does his own declining skills. Even a moderately healthy Serge would be fine.
Part of that is because of Zu. Is Zu playing a lot better than in the past? No--except for one very important statistic. He's fouling 30% less than last year. That's a massive difference. Zu has been over a foul every 9 minutes for almost all of his career--and you can't keep a guy like that on the court very long, even if you want to. We talk about Zu's matchup issues and how he's a situational player--the fouls showed that. When he plays against smaller, more mobile Cs, he reaches and grabs ... and fouls. But he's cut down on that to some degree. He's a little better in positioning; he doesn't make as many dumb attempts to recover as he used to. This year he's under a foul every 12 minutes. He's at a career MPG high, almost 15% higher than last year. He'll never be a 35 mpg guy in the modern NBA--but the difference between getting 18-20 effective minutes every game and 24-28 minutes is substantial. Good for Zu. Lucky for us.
esqtvd wrote:TheNewEra wrote:esqtvd wrote:
We're not allowed to say that around here. Welcome to the board politics. Fill you in later.
These takes aged so horribly and you trying to validate those ridiculous takes being slick after the clippers defense just got gangbanged is wild
Zu is Zu. Trezz was Trezz. Both rejects. Doc Rivers made NBA players out of both. That's the joke here bro.
TrueLAfan wrote:I don't think we need/want DJ; he's still an old school center, and his production drop has almost as much to do with the game (continuing) to move away from him as it does his own declining skills. Even a moderately healthy Serge would be fine.
Part of that is because of Zu. Is Zu playing a lot better than in the past? No--except for one very important statistic. He's fouling 30% less than last year. That's a massive difference. Zu has been over a foul every 9 minutes for almost all of his career--and you can't keep a guy like that on the court very long, even if you want to. We talk about Zu's matchup issues and how he's a situational player--the fouls showed that. When he plays against smaller, more mobile Cs, he reaches and grabs ... and fouls. But he's cut down on that to some degree. He's a little better in positioning; he doesn't make as many dumb attempts to recover as he used to. This year he's under a foul every 12 minutes. He's at a career MPG high, almost 15% higher than last year. He'll never be a 35 mpg guy in the modern NBA--but the difference between getting 18-20 effective minutes every game and 24-28 minutes is substantial. Good for Zu. Lucky for us.
Wammy Giveaway wrote:This was clearly a game the Mavericks HAD TO win. They knew clearly that Clippers were on a back-to-back skid, and if they were to get them while on their stay at the Staples Crypt, it would have been the Clipper's first 3-game losing streak of the season. Instead, thanks to their playoffs experience, Clippers prevented the 3-game losing streak, forcing Mavs to relive the playoff series that got away - one game away from a 3-0 series lead, which would have given Dallas the automatic win as no team in NBA history has ever come back from down 3-0. So they got this instead.
As it stands, the Clippers are just too small. Zubac has a peak, Ibaka is on a minutes restriction, Hartenstein is somewhat foul prone. Even though the center position has been dying out in favor of postionless basketball where jump shooting is king, they still need a traditional big to psyche opponents out. One who feasts at the rim one hundred percent, is content with his limitations, can go toe to toe against the opponent's own big foe, and more importantly, can spare the guards and shooters from having to do their own shots at the rim. The seven foot center may be dead, but Clippers need an equalizer.
Which is why I have a feeling that DeAndre Jordan may become available. There is a rumor within NBA circles that Lakers may look to trade him as they've not been pleased with his play, partly due to age but also because they signed him mainly as a secret weapon against the Clippers (originally they wanted Chris Paul). If Jordan gets released, what better team to reinvigorate his love of the game and defense than to go back to the team who drafted him and became the longest tenured Clipper of all time. They already have former Clipper Eric Bledsoe, and they've proven to be very good at resurrecting careers at the end of their ropes. Clippers were once the place where careers ended - not this era.
nickhx2 wrote:- team's wracked by injuries
- lue has to play reserve greater minutes than before because the other options just aren't very good
but you are projecting lue as thinking coffey is the answer?
???
KL2 wrote:nickhx2 wrote:- team's wracked by injuries
- lue has to play reserve greater minutes than before because the other options just aren't very good
but you are projecting lue as thinking coffey is the answer?
???
I know he’s a fan favorite here. I don’t get it and think he wouldn’t be in the nba if the Clippers didn’t sign him again. He’s g-league or buried at the end of the bench collecting dnp at best. It’s such a wasted roster spot. But we gotta have those one liners from Brian Sieman I guess.
You think he’s a better option and that’s fine. I think it would be better spent on the young guys who have a boat load more upside and an actual future with the team.
TheNewEra wrote:TrueLAfan wrote:I don't think we need/want DJ; he's still an old school center, and his production drop has almost as much to do with the game (continuing) to move away from him as it does his own declining skills. Even a moderately healthy Serge would be fine.
Part of that is because of Zu. Is Zu playing a lot better than in the past? No--except for one very important statistic. He's fouling 30% less than last year. That's a massive difference. Zu has been over a foul every 9 minutes for almost all of his career--and you can't keep a guy like that on the court very long, even if you want to. We talk about Zu's matchup issues and how he's a situational player--the fouls showed that. When he plays against smaller, more mobile Cs, he reaches and grabs ... and fouls. But he's cut down on that to some degree. He's a little better in positioning; he doesn't make as many dumb attempts to recover as he used to. This year he's under a foul every 12 minutes. He's at a career MPG high, almost 15% higher than last year. He'll never be a 35 mpg guy in the modern NBA--but the difference between getting 18-20 effective minutes every game and 24-28 minutes is substantial. Good for Zu. Lucky for us.
So he didn’t get better but got better at a aspect of defense by limiting his fouling ? So getting better at positioning and defending without fouling while having a bump up on points isn’t playing better?
How is this even a topic about him when so many other players are having near career low shooting years? Morris still looks a step slower, Mann and Kennard are both struggling as of late with their roles, George is having problems with efficient shooting and Reggie is trying to get his stats up from Pistons season bad. This is all while Ibaka still hasn’t been up to speed the Hartenstein lineups are getting more difficult on defense in a more restricted role, Bledsoe is having a season worse than and the team is still wrecked by multiple injuries. Yet come in here to see the topic is on Zu and DeAndre Jordan
Clemenza wrote:DJ is washed bro.. Been washed since he was in Brooklyn. I get the sentimental angle but all three of our bigs are currently better than DJ right now
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