Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ?

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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#41 » by thinktank » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:46 pm

jordanwilliams6 wrote:Didn’t Edwards literally say last year that’s he not really into basketball and he only plays because he’s good at it?

Obviously things could have changed and he seems to play with passion but that was a really interesting comment in relation to ‘ambition’.


He’s a snake in the grass, if that’s even possible yet. Watch the guy play. He’s dominant.
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Post#42 » by PlatinumState » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:48 pm

Wiggins with a motor & ambition is a literal superstar
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Ant is going to be an all-time great.
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Post#44 » by Upperclass » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:59 pm

Edwards plays and moves like a young.. MJ.. he really does and it's wild to watch. Doesn't seem like there's anything he can't do athletically on a basketball court
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Post#45 » by rockmanslim » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:29 pm

So...we finna talk about Ant saying finna, or nah?
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#46 » by HotelVitale » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:39 pm

Upperclass wrote:Edwards plays and moves like a young.. MJ.. he really does and it's wild to watch. Doesn't seem like there's anything he can't do athletically on a basketball court

Hmm, not getting this at all. Jordan was the springiest, spryest athlete I've ever seen in his younger years, it was like he was gumby but made of pure muscle. Edwards moves pretty well and has the legit 3-level scorer skillset, but he has very little of that crazy pure fluidity that allowed Jordan to get into every gap--and finish, get fouled, and drop dimes off double teams all day right from rip. Edwards has more of that freight train type of athleticism than the agility of MJ, which makes him a totally different driver and creator.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#47 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:09 pm

Klayforspicy wrote:Im seeing Antman is 6'4, he looks and plays much bigger
His moniker is perfect


He came in at 6'4 but they said he grew 2" this summer. Usually that's a whole lot of bull but in this case it's noticeable. He definitely grew. I remember holding onto that hope until I was like 22, never happened. Been 5'9 since HS.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#48 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:12 pm

Sometimes one gains a reputation that sticks far too long. I think Wiggins get beat up on far too much. Days of living up to generational talent may be over but after the hype has settled I think hes a bit underrated now.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#49 » by turnaroundJ » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:46 pm

Ant is a lot more fluid and a tier above Wiggins as a basketball athlete. Wiggins' athleticism was always overrated. I never saw him as anything other than stiff. From his lateral movements, deceleration, and even finishing ability - all stiff.

Ant is also much stronger. Ant's athleticism is as good as it gets for his position, he is the complete package, like Dwywane Wade with a little less grace but slightly bigger and more hops.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#50 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:13 pm

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Upperclass wrote:Edwards plays and moves like a young.. MJ.. he really does and it's wild to watch. Doesn't seem like there's anything he can't do athletically on a basketball court

Hmm, not getting this at all. Jordan was the springiest, spryest athlete I've ever seen in his younger years, it was like he was gumby but made of pure muscle. Edwards moves pretty well and has the legit 3-level scorer skillset, but he has very little of that crazy pure fluidity that allowed Jordan to get into every gap--and finish, get fouled, and drop dimes off double teams all day right from rip. Edwards has more of that freight train type of athleticism than the agility of MJ, which makes him a totally different driver and creator.


See I think it's the reverse. I think Jordan was more powerful and he was more fundamentally sound so that might play into saying he was fluid. I mean think about it, if you can even perform a Eurostep these days that's a more fluid move than anything from 20yrs ago. Not to say that's Jordan's fault but today's players have mimicked him thier whole lives and then have more in the arsenal especially with loose carrying rules of today so don't think I'm blaming Jordan for that. He did what he knew he was allowed to do.

What Jordan was better at for sure is that stop and rise. You give him a pick (and this is before Jordan became amazing in the post) and he'd come around that pick then get toward the foul line, stop and rise up above the outstretched arms of the bigmen and hit a midrange. And he really got up there, I don't remember what his vertical was but still to this day it's historically one of the best.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#51 » by HotelVitale » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:13 pm

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Upperclass wrote:Edwards plays and moves like a young.. MJ.. he really does and it's wild to watch. Doesn't seem like there's anything he can't do athletically on a basketball court

Hmm, not getting this at all. Jordan was the springiest, spryest athlete I've ever seen in his younger years, it was like he was gumby but made of pure muscle. Edwards moves pretty well and has the legit 3-level scorer skillset, but he has very little of that crazy pure fluidity that allowed Jordan to get into every gap--and finish, get fouled, and drop dimes off double teams all day right from rip. Edwards has more of that freight train type of athleticism than the agility of MJ, which makes him a totally different driver and creator.


See I think it's the reverse. I think Jordan was more powerful and he was more fundamentally sound so that might play into saying he was fluid. I mean think about it, if you can even perform a Eurostep these days that's a more fluid move than anything from 20yrs ago. Not to say that's Jordan's fault but today's players have mimicked him thier whole lives and then have more in the arsenal especially with loose carrying rules of today so don't think I'm blaming Jordan for that. He did what he knew he was allowed to do.

What Jordan was better at for sure is that stop and rise. You give him a pick (and this is before Jordan became amazing in the post) and he'd come around that pick then get toward the foul line, stop and rise up above the outstretched arms of the bigmen and hit a midrange. And he really got up there, I don't remember what his vertical was but still to this day it's historically one of the best.


Sorry, man, I don’t at all recognize the description that young MJ wasn’t very slithery and that what sat him apart was catch-and-shoot pull-ups off picks. No part of that seems at all accurate (though he was very good at shooting over guys and hanging in the air). Young MJ was so absurdly agile, it was like he was playing with a different musculature that let him twitch and juke on a totally different level than other people. I’m not saying he was ‘smooth,’ which is sort of a subjective descriptor—I’m saying specifically that he had a physical agility and shake to him that was extremely obvious and let the rest of his game go.

Edwards just looks like a great straight line athlete, both powerful and fast. Nothing about him reminds me of that special MJ agility.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#52 » by Quentin » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:25 pm

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HotelVitale wrote:Hmm, not getting this at all. Jordan was the springiest, spryest athlete I've ever seen in his younger years, it was like he was gumby but made of pure muscle. Edwards moves pretty well and has the legit 3-level scorer skillset, but he has very little of that crazy pure fluidity that allowed Jordan to get into every gap--and finish, get fouled, and drop dimes off double teams all day right from rip. Edwards has more of that freight train type of athleticism than the agility of MJ, which makes him a totally different driver and creator.


See I think it's the reverse. I think Jordan was more powerful and he was more fundamentally sound so that might play into saying he was fluid. I mean think about it, if you can even perform a Eurostep these days that's a more fluid move than anything from 20yrs ago. Not to say that's Jordan's fault but today's players have mimicked him thier whole lives and then have more in the arsenal especially with loose carrying rules of today so don't think I'm blaming Jordan for that. He did what he knew he was allowed to do.

What Jordan was better at for sure is that stop and rise. You give him a pick (and this is before Jordan became amazing in the post) and he'd come around that pick then get toward the foul line, stop and rise up above the outstretched arms of the bigmen and hit a midrange. And he really got up there, I don't remember what his vertical was but still to this day it's historically one of the best.


Sorry, man, I don’t at all recognize the description that young MJ wasn’t very slithery and that what sat him apart was catch-and-shoot pull-ups off picks. No part of that seems at all accurate (though he was very good at shooting over guys and hanging in the air). Young MJ was so absurdly agile, it was like he was playing with a different musculature that let him twitch and juke on a totally different level than other people. I’m not saying he was ‘smooth,’ which is sort of a subjective descriptor—I’m saying specifically that he had a physical agility and shake to him that was extremely obvious and let the rest of his game go.

Edwards just looks like a great straight line athlete, both powerful and fast. Nothing about him reminds me of that special MJ agility.


What? That's the last thing I think. The guy can weave with the best of them. Maybe I'm misreading.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#53 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:32 pm

Better than wiggins.

Ant should be a celtic
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#54 » by Pelly24 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:55 pm

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Upperclass wrote:Edwards plays and moves like a young.. MJ.. he really does and it's wild to watch. Doesn't seem like there's anything he can't do athletically on a basketball court

Hmm, not getting this at all. Jordan was the springiest, spryest athlete I've ever seen in his younger years, it was like he was gumby but made of pure muscle. Edwards moves pretty well and has the legit 3-level scorer skillset, but he has very little of that crazy pure fluidity that allowed Jordan to get into every gap--and finish, get fouled, and drop dimes off double teams all day right from rip. Edwards has more of that freight train type of athleticism than the agility of MJ, which makes him a totally different driver and creator.


I think Edwards is like MJ in the way that he's elite in all facets of athleticism. No one besides a couple of guys are as fluid as MJ, not Zach Lavine, pretty much no one.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#55 » by Takingbaconback » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:09 pm

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Idk how many guys are in the sample so it may be misleading, but definitely is hyper athletic
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#56 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:20 pm

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HotelVitale wrote:Hmm, not getting this at all. Jordan was the springiest, spryest athlete I've ever seen in his younger years, it was like he was gumby but made of pure muscle. Edwards moves pretty well and has the legit 3-level scorer skillset, but he has very little of that crazy pure fluidity that allowed Jordan to get into every gap--and finish, get fouled, and drop dimes off double teams all day right from rip. Edwards has more of that freight train type of athleticism than the agility of MJ, which makes him a totally different driver and creator.


See I think it's the reverse. I think Jordan was more powerful and he was more fundamentally sound so that might play into saying he was fluid. I mean think about it, if you can even perform a Eurostep these days that's a more fluid move than anything from 20yrs ago. Not to say that's Jordan's fault but today's players have mimicked him thier whole lives and then have more in the arsenal especially with loose carrying rules of today so don't think I'm blaming Jordan for that. He did what he knew he was allowed to do.

What Jordan was better at for sure is that stop and rise. You give him a pick (and this is before Jordan became amazing in the post) and he'd come around that pick then get toward the foul line, stop and rise up above the outstretched arms of the bigmen and hit a midrange. And he really got up there, I don't remember what his vertical was but still to this day it's historically one of the best.


Sorry, man, I don’t at all recognize the description that young MJ wasn’t very slithery and that what sat him apart was catch-and-shoot pull-ups off picks. No part of that seems at all accurate (though he was very good at shooting over guys and hanging in the air). Young MJ was so absurdly agile, it was like he was playing with a different musculature that let him twitch and juke on a totally different level than other people. I’m not saying he was ‘smooth,’ which is sort of a subjective descriptor—I’m saying specifically that he had a physical agility and shake to him that was extremely obvious and let the rest of his game go.

Edwards just looks like a great straight line athlete, both powerful and fast. Nothing about him reminds me of that special MJ agility.


Fair enough. We had perhaps a different definition of it but when you said smooth I guess I got what you meant. My definition is probably closer to how you think of when you say smooth.

I feel like Jordan was more in your face killer. Don't forget also that there's a huge difference in skill between early Jordan and prime Jordan.
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Post#57 » by Warriorfan » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:44 pm

True judge of a player is how they perform on their second contract if the team is not already winning.
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#58 » by michaelm » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:10 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:Sometimes one gains a reputation that sticks far too long. I think Wiggins get beat up on far too much. Days of living up to generational talent may be over but after the hype has settled I think hes a bit underrated now.

Yes, current GSW Wiggins seems to both have a good motor and to be more ambitious. And never misses a game.
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Post#59 » by vagelis » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:56 pm

Anthony Edwards is a great athlete. He maybe is a little better athlete than Wiggins but no-one knows for sure because Wiggins for some reason does not showcase his athleticism.
Edwards is a force, he plays with high energy and attacks like there is no tomorrow. I think he can become the best in the game sooner or later
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Re: Is Anthony Edwards just Wiggins with a motor & ambition ? 

Post#60 » by FNQ » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:19 pm

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Nazrmohamed wrote:Sometimes one gains a reputation that sticks far too long. I think Wiggins get beat up on far too much. Days of living up to generational talent may be over but after the hype has settled I think hes a bit underrated now.

Yes, current GSW Wiggins seems to both have a good motor and to be more ambitious. And never misses a game.


Yup. Fans yell about why he doesn't take it to the rack always, and all that.. but as someone else mentioned here, his handles are terrible. His counter moves arent good either, just wait for the spin move. He always seems to be surprised someone is in his way when he spins. And it almost never works.

But yeah, Wiggins plays hard here and has gotten better in our offense, and remains one of our best defenders, on the #1 ranked defensive team in the league. But some reputations die hard I guess..

Still think my comp to Monta Ellis is best for someone like Edwards. The problem was that Monta started getting full of himself as the Warriors #1 and devolved into a no-defense chucker after being a solid defender and huge problem for the other team on offense. If the Wolves can keep Edwards grounded and on the right path, could be a star. Especially since he has about 40 lbs on Monta, and can absorb contact while driving that Monta couldn't. Also a better shooter than Monta was at that point, so there's a ton to get excited about for MIN fans. Think a better question is: Is Anthony Edwards just Monta Ellis with BBIQ and humility? :dontknow:

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