Lakers are 9-10. Who's to blame?

[Sedale Threatt]

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I'm an AD fan, and he's still having a very good season. But these numbers are absolutely horrifying.

[DroseReturnChi]

davis was always a horrible shooter from range apart from finals run 2 yrs ago which was a fluke.
westbrook looks terrible because lebron and ad are bad shooters opponents want them to shoot and not concede the paint.
add to a bilion bigs lakers have its a disaster worst fit of all time for RW. there is a reason why vogel is forced to start 2 bigs at least.

[Snakebites]

Eh, they tripled down on older players who can't shoot in the hopes that raw talent would carry them over despite their other issues. Obviously that hasn't worked. That's all that has happened here.

I'm not sure there was a set of moves that would get this team to a championship this year (Lebron is getting older, father time is undefeated, blah blah blah), but this wasn't it.

[Wolfgang630]

Maybe trade Lebron and get someone younger for your future

[DFan]

The 'All of the Above' option is missing

[GunnerWRX]

It is funny that people give Rob so much credit and blame. LeBron and Klutch brought AD. LeBron also brought Westbrook. Westbrook was what LeBron wanted.

No sane GM trying to build a champion team would have traded for Westbrook. Even realgm knew.

Even the Wizards knew they had to move on.

[John Murdoch]

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I'm an AD fan, and he's still having a very good season. But these numbers are absolutely horrifying.

I wouldnt be shocked if AD is dealt in some kind o f 3 way

[zimpy27]

Losing Caruso has made a big impact. Caruso gets the team more possessions per 100 with his rebounding impact and perimeter defense.

Honestly, Jeannie not paying him or Rob choosing THT or Nunn over him was the biggest mistake.

Westbrook had a slow start but has been decent last couple weeks. He's had 22/8/9/1.4 on 56% ts% and 4to.

[picc]

Losing Caruso has made a big impact. Caruso gets the team more possessions per 100 with his rebounding impact and perimeter defense.

Honestly, Jeannie not paying him or Rob choosing THT or Nunn over him was the biggest mistake.

Westbrook had a slow start but has been decent last couple weeks. He's had 22/8/9/1.4 on 56% ts% and 4to.

Havent checked the stats, but it feels like Russ is taking less threes lately, consciously. That alone helps his fg% and the teams efficiency.

[DTP]

If AD was playing like AD should be playing, we aren't having this conversation.

[picc]

It looks like lebron and AD are both checked out.

Bron because when he isnt in an advantageous situation, he pouts and checks out.

AD because he is mentally weak.

[NYKat]

The front office should have consulted with the coaching staff regarding personnel instead of the players (aka LeGM)…

That right there is a sign of an organization that is not on the same page in terms of structure and hierarchy.

[zimpy27]

Losing Caruso has made a big impact. Caruso gets the team more possessions per 100 with his rebounding impact and perimeter defense.

Honestly, Jeannie not paying him or Rob choosing THT or Nunn over him was the biggest mistake.

Westbrook had a slow start but has been decent last couple weeks. He's had 22/8/9/1.4 on 56% ts% and 4to.

Havent checked the stats, but it feels like Russ is taking less threes lately, consciously. That alone helps his fg% and the teams efficiency.

Russ's threes are actually fine. The focus on them is overblown. The real problem with Russ is his midrange shooting. Any midrange shot from him is bad shot. 3s and drives are fine.

His efg% for midrange this season is 40%
His efg% for 3s this season is 46%

That is pretty much the same for his average over the past decade.

Recently he's been more selective with his midrange. Especially 10 foot out to 3. He takes them off the dribble but he's been slower about it

[G35]

Losing Caruso has made a big impact. Caruso gets the team more possessions per 100 with his rebounding impact and perimeter defense.

Honestly, Jeannie not paying him or Rob choosing THT or Nunn over him was the biggest mistake.

Westbrook had a slow start but has been decent last couple weeks. He's had 22/8/9/1.4 on 56% ts% and 4to.

Caruso is the type of player that plays well next to Lebron:
- high energy
- willing to play defense/put body on the line
- can space the floor
- doesn't need to handle the ball

But usually they are not appreciated during the times they are playing next to Lebron:

Anderson Varejao
Delonte West
Mo Williams
Chris Bosh
Shane Battier
James Jones
Richard Jefferson
Mike Miller
Mario Chalmers
Udonis Haslem
Matthew Dellavedova
Tristan Thompson

These players played critical roles that are largely unappreciated until all you have are max contract players and no one who does the grunt work.

That is one thing that Draymond does for the Warriors is he does all the dirty work that smooths out any wrinkles......

[John Murdoch]

It looks like lebron and AD are both checked out.

Bron because when he isnt in an advantageous situation, he pouts and checks out.

AD because he is mentally weak.

I hate hearing the truth about this team but this is exactly what theyre body language says too me as well. Then AD will have the nerve to call out the team postgame to the media lol wut? Its crazy but i would absaluelty consider something around Ben Simmons + Tobias + Curry or Green for AD + Russ

[theforumblue]

Has any "star" gotten as satisfied with their basketball career as AD after getting one ring?

[BlackThought]

westbrook isn't to blame. He is what he is, it's James and the GM for bringing him in.

[Chanel Bomber]

Themselves for thinking that Anthony Scottie Pippen Davis could carry the torch.

And for not surrounding Bron with enough shooters.

[zimpy27]

Losing Caruso has made a big impact. Caruso gets the team more possessions per 100 with his rebounding impact and perimeter defense.

Honestly, Jeannie not paying him or Rob choosing THT or Nunn over him was the biggest mistake.

Westbrook had a slow start but has been decent last couple weeks. He's had 22/8/9/1.4 on 56% ts% and 4to.

Caruso is the type of player that plays well next to Lebron:
- high energy
- willing to play defense/put body on the line
- can space the floor
- doesn't need to handle the ball

But usually they are not appreciated during the times they are playing next to Lebron:

Anderson Varejao
Delonte West
Mo Williams
Chris Bosh
Shane Battier
James Jones
Richard Jefferson
Mike Miller
Mario Chalmers
Udonis Haslem
Matthew Dellavedova
Tristan Thompson

These players played critical roles that are largely unappreciated until all you have are max contract players and no one who does the grunt work.

That is one thing that Draymond does for the Warriors is he does all the dirty work that smooths out any wrinkles......

Yep, if Lakers just kept Caruso then they'd be looking fine right now. He makes that much of a difference to the way this Lakers team is constructed.

Main reasons for Lakers poor start:
1) LeBron out
2) Losing Caruso
3) Davis jump shooting leagues worst
4) Nunn and Ariza out

[Rainwater]

I get why people are blaming Lebron but if AD was playing like the top 75 player that the NBA is claiming he is the Lakers wouldn't be in the current position they are in.