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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#641 » by bishnykfan » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:23 pm

29 PLAYERS REMAINING

5 stars- (8 players)
4.5 stars- (11 players)
4 stars- (10 players)


2021-22 3.5-star players (Initial build)

Deandre Ayton
LaMelo Ball
Devin Booker
Miles Bridges
Malcolm Brogdon
Jaylen Brown
Clint Capela
John Collins
Andre Drummond
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Rudy Gobert
Tobias Harris
Gordon Hayward
Jrue Holiday
Richaun Holmes
Brandon Ingram
Caris LeVert
Kyle Lowry
CJ McCollum
Khris Middleton
Donovan Mitchell
Dejounte Murray
Jamal Murray
Chris Paul
Michael Porter Jr.
Pascal Siakam
Ben Simmons
Fred VanVleet
Christian Wood









bishnykfan wrote:2021-22 3-star players (Initial build)

Spoiler:
Jarrett Allen
Kyle Anderson
OG Anunoby
Lonzo Ball
Harrison Barnes
Scottie Barnes
RJ Barrett
Malik Beasley
Bogdan Bogdanovich
Chris Boucher
Jordan Clarkson
Mike Conley
Cade Cunningham
Anthony Edwards
Darius Garland
Jerami Grant
Draymond Green
Tyrese Haliburton
Tyler Herro
Buddy Hield
Al Horford
De'Andre Hunter
Jonathan Isaac
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Enes Kanter
TJ McConnell
Evan Mobley
Jusuf Nurkic
Victor Oladipo
Kelly Olynyk
Mason Plumlee
Jakob Poeltl
Kevin Porter Jr.
Kristaps Porzingis
Norman Powell
Terry Rozier
D'Angelo Russell
Dennis Schroder
Collin Sexton
Marcus Smart
Klay Thompson
Myles Turner
Kemba Walker
John Wall
PJ Washington
Coby White
Andrew Wiggins
Thaddeus Young


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SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#642 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:26 pm

SOUL wrote:may have pulled a NewEra and switched my team up a little before the season..

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#643 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:29 pm

Wow i would be disappointed with Ingram rating decreasing YOY however that is straight disrespect thrown at Booker.. and now am kind of worried at Morant did not see him getting 4 stars given his stats and comparable to other players but 2.5 stars seems low if they went that route
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Post#644 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:31 pm

Nice! As I expected

Just $45 for a 3.5 rated player in Fred VanVleet?

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#645 » by SOUL » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:32 pm

Stars still aren't end all be all. I mean obviously higher is good but as long as your player is highly rated in the areas where you brought them in to flourish at.. it's all good.
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Post#646 » by HerSports85 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:32 pm

Wow @ Booker and D Mitch being 3.5
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#647 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:34 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Wow i would be disappointed with Ingram rating decreasing YOY however that is straight disrespect thrown at Booker.. and now am kind of worried at Morant did not see him getting 4 stars given his stats and comparable to other players but 2.5 stars seems low if they went that route

Morant will absolutely get 4 stars.
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Post#648 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:36 pm

So from this most recent list prior to final release adjustments looks like the following players decreased YOY

Ayton (-1.0)
Booker (-1.0)
Collins (-1.5)
Drummond (-0.5)
Gobert (-0.5)
Ingram (-0.5)
Lowry (-0.5)
Mitchell (-0.5)
Murray (-0.5)
Siakam (-0.5)
Simmons (-1.5)
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Edwards/Robinson
Bridges/Robinson
Draymond/Sabonis
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#649 » by DOT » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:38 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Wow @ Booker and D Mitch being 3.5

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#650 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:38 pm

NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:Wow i would be disappointed with Ingram rating decreasing YOY however that is straight disrespect thrown at Booker.. and now am kind of worried at Morant did not see him getting 4 stars given his stats and comparable to other players but 2.5 stars seems low if they went that route

Morant will absolutely get 4 stars.


Not too sure man getting kind of worried, his comparables would be guys listed under 3 and 3.5, if he gets 4 stars it would kind of go against the metrics that I thought the SIM used as his player comparables were listed in 3.0 and 3.5 under my calculations
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Edwards/Robinson
Bridges/Robinson
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#651 » by HerSports85 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:39 pm

CP3 should be higher too
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#652 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:39 pm

SOUL wrote:Stars still aren't end all be all. I mean obviously higher is good but as long as your player is highly rated in the areas where you brought them in to flourish at.. it's all good.

Facts. This is what I’ve been trying to tell GMs. You can be a 2-star player with a 92 FGI, or even a 80 defensive rating and a 5-star player with a 70 FGI and 40 defensive rating. It’s all about strengths and combinations.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#653 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:41 pm

Randle 4.5/5 stars incoming :o
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#654 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:41 pm

NewEra wrote:Randle 4.5 stars incoming :o


Possibly swaps with Ayton lol
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#655 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:43 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:Wow i would be disappointed with Ingram rating decreasing YOY however that is straight disrespect thrown at Booker.. and now am kind of worried at Morant did not see him getting 4 stars given his stats and comparable to other players but 2.5 stars seems low if they went that route

Morant will absolutely get 4 stars.


Not too sure man getting kind of worried, his comparables would be guys listed under 3 and 3.5, if he gets 4 stars it would kind of go against the metrics that I thought the SIM used as his player comparables were listed in 3.0 and 3.5 under my calculations

Morant at 2.5 stars would call for protest. Simple. He’ll get 4, and you’ll like it!
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#656 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:47 pm

NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
NewEra wrote:Morant will absolutely get 4 stars.


Not too sure man getting kind of worried, his comparables would be guys listed under 3 and 3.5, if he gets 4 stars it would kind of go against the metrics that I thought the SIM used as his player comparables were listed in 3.0 and 3.5 under my calculations

Morant at 2.5 stars would call for protest. Simple. He’ll get 4, and you’ll like it!


i think a lot of these 3.5 will be bumped prior to final release, i think Ingram was 3.5 and adjusted to 4.0 last year, there is no chance a player like Booker walks into the season with 3.5 stars
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#657 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:53 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
Not too sure man getting kind of worried, his comparables would be guys listed under 3 and 3.5, if he gets 4 stars it would kind of go against the metrics that I thought the SIM used as his player comparables were listed in 3.0 and 3.5 under my calculations

Morant at 2.5 stars would call for protest. Simple. He’ll get 4, and you’ll like it!


i think a lot of these 3.5 will be bumped prior to final release, i think Ingram was 3.5 and adjusted to 4.0 last year, there is no chance a player like Booker walks into the season with 3.5 stars

Yea Booker needs that bump.

Westbrook has consistently kept a 5-star rating every year. While a guy like Curry has failed to achieve it (head scratcher). I wonder if that changes.

I also wonder who will be the surprise 4.5/5-star player this year? There’s always that one guy that shocks us all.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#658 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:58 pm

NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
NewEra wrote:Morant at 2.5 stars would call for protest. Simple. He’ll get 4, and you’ll like it!


i think a lot of these 3.5 will be bumped prior to final release, i think Ingram was 3.5 and adjusted to 4.0 last year, there is no chance a player like Booker walks into the season with 3.5 stars

Yea Booker needs that bump.

Westbrook has consistently kept a 5-star rating every year. While a guy like Curry has failed to achieve it (head scratcher). I wonder if that changes.

I also wonder who will be the surprise 4.5/5-star player this year? There’s always that one guy that shocks us all.


Well here are last years 4-5 star players

5 Stars (13)
Collins
Lebron
Kawhi
Tatum
Doncic
KAT
Harden
Simmons
Durant
Giannis
Westbrook
Trae
AD

4.5 stars (9)
Dame
Booker
Bam
Ayton
Steph
Whiteside
Beal
Sabonis
Irving

4.0 stars (14)
Embiid
Gobert
Murray
Mitchell

Butler
Ingram
Vuc
KP
Drummond
Lowry

Derozan
Siakam
Jokic
Fox

and we know there will be
5 stars- (7 players)
4.5 stars- (11 players)
4 stars- (10 players)

so this could be interesting, they are 28 open spots and 24 players remaining from last years list rated 4 stars or higher, I only see Whiteside being not included this year now so they are 5 open Spots

my guesses:
Morant or JV
Randle
Lavine
Zion
Paul George

Edit: I think JV or Morant gets screwed..
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#659 » by SOUL » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:04 pm

Jaylen was 3.5 already
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread 

Post#660 » by NewEra » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:11 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
i think a lot of these 3.5 will be bumped prior to final release, i think Ingram was 3.5 and adjusted to 4.0 last year, there is no chance a player like Booker walks into the season with 3.5 stars

Yea Booker needs that bump.

Westbrook has consistently kept a 5-star rating every year. While a guy like Curry has failed to achieve it (head scratcher). I wonder if that changes.

I also wonder who will be the surprise 4.5/5-star player this year? There’s always that one guy that shocks us all.


Well here are last years 4-5 star players

5 Stars (13)
Collins
Lebron
Kawhi
Tatum
Doncic
KAT
Harden
Simmons
Durant
Giannis
Westbrook
Trae
AD

4.5 stars (9)
Dame
Booker
Bam
Ayton
Steph
Whiteside
Beal
Sabonis
Irving

4.0 stars (14)
Embiid
Gobert
Murray
Mitchell

Butler
Ingram
Vuc
KP
Drummond
Lowry

Derozan
Siakam
Jokic
Fox

and we know there will be
5 stars- (7 players)
4.5 stars- (11 players)
4 stars- (10 players)

so this could be interesting, they are 28 open spots and 24 players remaining from last years list rated 4 stars or higher, I only see Whiteside being not included this year now so they are 5 open Spots

my guesses:
Morant
Randle
Lavine
Zion
Paul George

Edit: I think JV gets screwed..

Bish edited the list. There will be eight 5 star players.
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