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Post#101 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:50 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Oubre is either really good or really meh. Tonight he was great. Lamelo played a really sound game and didn't force anything. You guys will be perfectly fine and make the playoffs. Too much talent not to. Goodluck rest of the season.

Ha. Nobody was beating your team tonight, my reverse psychology failed. Nice win.
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Post#102 » by Neeva » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:41 am

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_AIJ_ wrote:Please waive Mclaughlin already!! Holy hell that guy is the definition of useless


This! Where is his mom Jeedz btw? i can’t believe Finch won’t try Nowell instead of Mclaighlin.

I'd rather run Bolmaro than either. He seems like he can run an offense and play defense. Nowell is a better scorer but if he's not hitting shots he's practically worthless on the floor.


Anyone would be better than Mclaughlin.
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Post#103 » by winforlose » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:03 am

There is a lot a could say or point about this game. We got out hustled, we had too little production from the unusual suspects, ect… but in the end one thing decided this game. We shot 11/35 for 31.4 percent from deep. They shot 23/40 for 57.5 percent from deep. When one team hits 12 more 3s than you and shoots them over 50% much less over 55% you’re well and truly ******. We could have played better defense, run back harder, but end of the day it was one of those nights.
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Post#104 » by Nick K » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:48 am

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King Malta wrote:KATs incapability to exploit clear mismatches is infuriating


He's too weak physically and mentally to score in the post.

Towns has always been a good post scorer. The problem is this year, he seems to be getting called for everything. He has been discourage from posting up because it's an offensive foul or he gets hacked and no call. He needs to find a way to get his moves off without getting called, earlier in his career he got a lot more freedom to make those post moves.

It's weird that he can't figure it out this season though. He need to go back and relearn some moves IMO, touch up his post game and get it back, we need it. I really wish KG would come in and do some tutoring.



The calls against him not always but often are borderline unfair. Expecially to a player of his ability. He just can't be aggressive inside. It's ridiculous.

I agree he has to make adjustments to his game and stay on his feet more. No doubt.
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Post#105 » by Dewey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:16 am

winforlose wrote:There is a lot a could say or point about this game. We got out hustled, we had too little production from the unusual suspects, ect… but in the end one thing decided this game. We shot 11/35 for 31.4 percent from deep. They shot 23/40 for 57.5 percent from deep. When one team hits 12 more 3s than you and shoots them over 50% much less over 55% you’re well and truly ******. We could have played better defense, run back harder, but end of the day it was one of those nights.

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Post#106 » by shrink » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:44 pm

winforlose wrote:There is a lot a could say or point about this game. We got out hustled, we had too little production from the unusual suspects, ect… but in the end one thing decided this game. We shot 11/35 for 31.4 percent from deep. They shot 23/40 for 57.5 percent from deep. When one team hits 12 more 3s than you and shoots them over 50% much less over 55% you’re well and truly ******. We could have played better defense, run back harder, but end of the day it was one of those nights.

I didn’t see the game, but this tells me a lot.

115 points is normally enough to win our games, usually comfortably. In fact, you have to go back to the GSW game to find one where 115 points wouldn’t have been enough. So in broad terms, the offense did fine.

Giving up 133 points is ridiculous. Now, in past games, we have had some combination of good three point defense and bad opponent shooting luck to have one of the best OPP 3P% in the league. This game, it was the reverse. 23/40 for 57.5% is a ridiculous number, again some of that must be attributed to a lucky night for CHA shooters. If CHA shot closer to league average, they’d have made 15/40. That’s eight less three’s, or 24 less points, and a score of 115-109. Now, maybe they get some of those rebounds, so maybe they score a few more points, but the game is a lot closer than this blow out.

I was concerned that the defense would lack energy without Beverley, and when I initially saw that CHA scores 133, I thought that was the case. I assume that didn’t happen. Thanks for posting the three point stat, winforlose.
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Post#107 » by TheProdigy » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:58 pm

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winforlose wrote:There is a lot a could say or point about this game. We got out hustled, we had too little production from the unusual suspects, ect… but in the end one thing decided this game. We shot 11/35 for 31.4 percent from deep. They shot 23/40 for 57.5 percent from deep. When one team hits 12 more 3s than you and shoots them over 50% much less over 55% you’re well and truly ******. We could have played better defense, run back harder, but end of the day it was one of those nights.

I didn’t see the game, but this tells me a lot.

115 points is normally enough to win our games, usually comfortably. In fact, you have to go back to the GSW game to find one where 115 points wouldn’t have been enough. So in broad terms, the offense did fine.

Giving up 133 points is ridiculous. Now, in past games, we have had some combination of good three point defense and bad opponent shooting luck to have one of the best OPP 3P% in the league. This game, it was the reverse. 23/40 for 57.5% is a ridiculous number, again some of that must be attributed to a lucky night for CHA shooters. If CHA shot closer to league average, they’d have made 15/40. That’s eight less three’s, or 24 less points, and a score of 115-109. Now, maybe they get some of those rebounds, so maybe they score a few more points, but the game is a lot closer than this blow out.

I was concerned that the defense would lack energy without Beverley, and when I initially saw that CHA scores 133, I thought that was the case. I assume that didn’t happen. Thanks for posting the three point stat, winforlose.

It wasn't just shooting luck. The defensive rotations were two steps slow all night. When Ball would attack the rim, the entire defense would collapse into the paint leaving 4 guys wide open on the perimeter.

It was a combination of bad technique and low effort imo.
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Post#108 » by shrink » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:16 pm

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shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:There is a lot a could say or point about this game. We got out hustled, we had too little production from the unusual suspects, ect… but in the end one thing decided this game. We shot 11/35 for 31.4 percent from deep. They shot 23/40 for 57.5 percent from deep. When one team hits 12 more 3s than you and shoots them over 50% much less over 55% you’re well and truly ******. We could have played better defense, run back harder, but end of the day it was one of those nights.

I didn’t see the game, but this tells me a lot.

115 points is normally enough to win our games, usually comfortably. In fact, you have to go back to the GSW game to find one where 115 points wouldn’t have been enough. So in broad terms, the offense did fine.

Giving up 133 points is ridiculous. Now, in past games, we have had some combination of good three point defense and bad opponent shooting luck to have one of the best OPP 3P% in the league. This game, it was the reverse. 23/40 for 57.5% is a ridiculous number, again some of that must be attributed to a lucky night for CHA shooters. If CHA shot closer to league average, they’d have made 15/40. That’s eight less three’s, or 24 less points, and a score of 115-109. Now, maybe they get some of those rebounds, so maybe they score a few more points, but the game is a lot closer than this blow out.

I was concerned that the defense would lack energy without Beverley, and when I initially saw that CHA scores 133, I thought that was the case. I assume that didn’t happen. Thanks for posting the three point stat, winforlose.

It wasn't just shooting luck. The defensive rotations were two steps slow all night. When Ball would attack the rim, the entire defense would collapse into the paint leaving 4 guys wide open on the perimeter.

It was a combination of bad technique and low effort imo.

I appreciate that info. I didn’t see the game, and when I saw the score, I was hoping the Wolves just didn’t give up effort on defense.
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Post#109 » by winforlose » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:23 pm

shrink wrote:
TheProdigy wrote:
shrink wrote:I didn’t see the game, but this tells me a lot.

115 points is normally enough to win our games, usually comfortably. In fact, you have to go back to the GSW game to find one where 115 points wouldn’t have been enough. So in broad terms, the offense did fine.

Giving up 133 points is ridiculous. Now, in past games, we have had some combination of good three point defense and bad opponent shooting luck to have one of the best OPP 3P% in the league. This game, it was the reverse. 23/40 for 57.5% is a ridiculous number, again some of that must be attributed to a lucky night for CHA shooters. If CHA shot closer to league average, they’d have made 15/40. That’s eight less three’s, or 24 less points, and a score of 115-109. Now, maybe they get some of those rebounds, so maybe they score a few more points, but the game is a lot closer than this blow out.

I was concerned that the defense would lack energy without Beverley, and when I initially saw that CHA scores 133, I thought that was the case. I assume that didn’t happen. Thanks for posting the three point stat, winforlose.

It wasn't just shooting luck. The defensive rotations were two steps slow all night. When Ball would attack the rim, the entire defense would collapse into the paint leaving 4 guys wide open on the perimeter.

It was a combination of bad technique and low effort imo.

I appreciate that info. I didn’t see the game, and when I saw the score, I was hoping the Wolves just didn’t give up effort on defense.


All season long the wolves have sought to push pace. Speed up opponents into making mistakes we can turn into points. Get around half court defensive sets by getting the ball in play before they are ready and can man up, ect… The problem tonight was they were out pacing us by a lot. They kept getting easy buckets by out running us in transition. Worse, we gave them some easy second chance points early. Worse still, we were sloppy with the ball in the first half (MCD steps out of bounds, Dlo fumbles the ball while inbounding, V8 throws ahead to Dlo but is way too far ahead and Dlo is nowhere near it.) Our defense was bad, but if they hit four less open or semi guarded 3s or we hit four more of many open 3s the game never gets to garbage time.
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Post#110 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:24 pm

We’ve seen it a million times. Players like Oubre, malik Beasley…instant offense off the bench can score 30 points last night and hit 7-8 3s…and then tonight will go 2-9 for. 6 points.

I agree on our defense too..we weren’t generating offense with defense like we’re used to. I’d say a lot of it had to do with how good and fast ball is. He can project plays ahead of us and dAzzle his defender with moves . He has insane handles and vision.
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Post#111 » by winforlose » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:51 pm

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:We’ve seen it a million times. Players like Oubre, malik Beasley…instant offense off the bench can score 30 points last night and hit 7-8 3s…and then tonight will go 2-9 for. 6 points.

I agree on our defense too..we weren’t generating offense with defense like we’re used to. I’d say a lot of it had to do with how good and fast ball is. He can project plays ahead of us and dAzzle his defender with moves . He has insane handles and vision.


While it is true that their bench did really hurt us, I disagree about Ball being the catalyst. At a more fundamental level we came out flat. Ant especially played like a guy determined not to make an impact. It was lackadaisical, but there was no sense of urgency. I think a lot of it was the mistakes in the beginning (near constant turnovers) mixed with the pace and urgency of the other team just deflated us. Then you have guys like MCD and JO who usually provide something on defense and rebounding no show. You have guys like KAT and V8 who have been viral underperforming in the first half, and before you know it you give up. We made a real effort in the third quarter and got it back down to 5. But they never stopped hitting 3s to push it back up. It was a perfect storm game. There are two potential ways Beverly turns the loss into the win. 1, he avoids a lot of the mistakes early on. 2, He is immune to the teams low energy and gets guys fired up. I doubt either happens here.
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Post#112 » by Macwolf527 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:02 pm

You can't make me believe that Bolmaro is worse than McLaughlin. It's painful to watch Jordan come in and play. It's not his size that bothers me, it the fact that he turns the ball over way too much to be a PG. Worse case scenario, Bolmaro is a much better point of attack defender, which is absolutely what we missed last night. Ball had to much freedom to move about in the offense and make plays.
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Post#113 » by Dewey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:13 pm

Macwolf527 wrote:You can't make me believe that Bolmaro is worse than McLaughlin. It's painful to watch Jordan come in and play. It's not his size that bothers me, it the fact that he turns the ball over way too much to be a PG. Worse case scenario, Bolmaro is a much better point of attack defender, which is absolutely what we missed last night. Ball had to much freedom to move about in the offense and make plays.

Ya it would be nice to know the story behind Bolmaro… it’s not like we are asking for a lot, but just better than what we have. If he isnt better than JMac then why the h311 do we bring him over?
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Post#114 » by winforlose » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:34 pm

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Macwolf527 wrote:You can't make me believe that Bolmaro is worse than McLaughlin. It's painful to watch Jordan come in and play. It's not his size that bothers me, it the fact that he turns the ball over way too much to be a PG. Worse case scenario, Bolmaro is a much better point of attack defender, which is absolutely what we missed last night. Ball had to much freedom to move about in the offense and make plays.

Ya it would be nice to know the story behind Bolmaro… it’s not like we are asking for a lot, but just better than what we have. If he isnt better than JMac then why the h311 do we bring him over?


I think the bigger issue is the whether Bolmaro can run point. At this level Finch is probably concerned he would struggle and stall the offense. On the other hand, JMAC does that nicely so might as well give someone else a chance to do better.
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Post#115 » by Macwolf527 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:08 am

winforlose wrote:
Dewey wrote:
Macwolf527 wrote:You can't make me believe that Bolmaro is worse than McLaughlin. It's painful to watch Jordan come in and play. It's not his size that bothers me, it the fact that he turns the ball over way too much to be a PG. Worse case scenario, Bolmaro is a much better point of attack defender, which is absolutely what we missed last night. Ball had to much freedom to move about in the offense and make plays.

Ya it would be nice to know the story behind Bolmaro… it’s not like we are asking for a lot, but just better than what we have. If he isnt better than JMac then why the h311 do we bring him over?


I think the bigger issue is the whether Bolmaro can run point. At this level Finch is probably concerned he would struggle and stall the offense. On the other hand, JMAC does that nicely so might as well give someone else a chance to do better.


I called Bolmaro!!! You heard it here first.
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Post#116 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:24 am

Charlotte loses to houston tonight.

Oubre goes 8-19, 2-10 from deep but they still shot 40% from 3. 20-50 which ain’t bad but still a lot of 3 pt attempts
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Post#117 » by winforlose » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:13 am

Macwolf527 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Dewey wrote:Ya it would be nice to know the story behind Bolmaro… it’s not like we are asking for a lot, but just better than what we have. If he isnt better than JMac then why the h311 do we bring him over?


I think the bigger issue is the whether Bolmaro can run point. At this level Finch is probably concerned he would struggle and stall the offense. On the other hand, JMAC does that nicely so might as well give someone else a chance to do better.


I called Bolmaro!!! You heard it here first.


To be fair, a lot of us have been asking to remove JMAC from the lineup. Personally, I would have put Bolmaro at 3 and let Nowell run point, but I get wanting more size against Philly and their huge team.

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