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Re: ice trae- stop sleeping 

Post#61 » by Johnny Firpo » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:58 pm

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Godymas wrote:it's insane, Hawks traded Luka Doncic for him and there is literally 0 regret so far and likely it will continue that way, especially if Trae ever gets a ring before Luka


He's been better than Luka.


This season, yes, easily. Career-wise, easily the other way, and that's kind of the consensus too. I mean, obviously outside of Hawks fans. And no, we did not bring it up, you did.
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Post#62 » by UcanUwill » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:02 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Ice Trae seems like an awful nickname to me

Is that a legit name people are trying to stick him with?


He is popping Ice bags in that NBA 75 anniversary ad, its official by now
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Post#63 » by QingJames » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:28 pm

I love Trae. I will always be grateful to him for humiliating Philly and slamming their title window shut. He's the definition of nodefense but it doesn't even matter, given how much of a monster he is on the other end and what a great maestro he is in the PnR in particular.
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Post#64 » by og15 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:31 pm

Jables wrote:I don't think anyone doubts he's great it's just a small market and he's not a quirky marketable tall white dude with a massive overseas fanbase, more of a normal overly image conscious young dude who says the regular season is boring when he's been in the playoffs once.

Thats not really what he said. Atlanta has a fairly decent market, but yes, he doesn't have an overseas fanbase, that would certainly help popularity. That said, sometimes some players popularity, etc will just lag behind their production, nothing new.
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Post#65 » by Buzzard » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:47 pm

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Jables wrote:I don't think anyone doubts he's great it's just a small market and he's not a quirky marketable tall white dude with a massive overseas fanbase, more of a normal overly image conscious young dude who says the regular season is boring when he's been in the playoffs once.

Thats not really what he said. Atlanta has a fairly decent market, but yes, he doesn't have an overseas fanbase, that would certainly help popularity. That said, sometimes some players popularity, etc will just lag behind their production, nothing new.

Jordan probably did not become a international star until his 3rd signature shoe. Trae just got his 1st....

Once he gets on a Team USA and plays in the Olympics all bets are off. The kids will love the guy who is short like them but balls against the giants.
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Post#66 » by rtiff68 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:04 pm

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leo7 wrote:Anyone else noticing how Trae is finishing around the rim? Looks like he's worked on his layup package in the off season too. I don't think I've ever seen him finish high off the glass with his left hand before this season.


fwiw his effectiveness at the rim is basically the same as last year and a bit worse than in year 2.

But I'm not here to pour cold water on Trae. He's one hell of an offensive player leading the best offense in the league(which has flown totally under the radar btw).


I’m not here to pour cold water on the Hawks either. I like their team, and I enjoy watching them (even more so now with the rule adjustments).

You said the emboldened quote above very “matter-of-factly,” and I guess I’m wondering what measurement(s) you’re using to make that determination?
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Post#67 » by CobraCommander » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:11 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Uh oh...ice trae staring at a 50,40,90 with 26 ppg (8th in nba), 9.2 assist (2nd in nba), with a per of 25 (8th in nba) and the hawks winning....and we KNOW he a winner in playoffs and and big game hunter...

I think the young man has decided to play in the reg season and if he keeps this up he will be battling Jimmy and Lebron or whomever else shows up for the 5th all nba 1st team spot

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Why doesn’t he get more love here with these numbers?


A non Hawks fan recognizing how truly great Trae Young is on realgm...I...don't know how to respond. Trae got robbed not just of an All Star but All NBA last season. I hope he finally gets the recognition he deserves this season. He's the best point guard in the NBA by far and should be first team All NBA this year.

Not better than Curry.

Fact that you gotta say it means Trae is at least within shooting distance of Curry.....maybe with a bull horn but he can see Curry in the distance. But Curry is a HOF 2 time MVP and 3 time champ having one of his best years and winning at a seriously high clip. Trae letting us know he can ball at an elite level. Look at that hawks roster...with Trae they could actually do something special
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Re: ice trae- stop sleeping 

Post#68 » by Texas Chuck » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:13 pm

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leo7 wrote:Anyone else noticing how Trae is finishing around the rim? Looks like he's worked on his layup package in the off season too. I don't think I've ever seen him finish high off the glass with his left hand before this season.


fwiw his effectiveness at the rim is basically the same as last year and a bit worse than in year 2.

But I'm not here to pour cold water on Trae. He's one hell of an offensive player leading the best offense in the league(which has flown totally under the radar btw).


I’m not here to pour cold water on the Hawks either. I like their team, and I enjoy watching them (even more so now with the rule adjustments).

You said the emboldened quote above very “matter-of-factly,” and I guess I’m wondering what measurement(s) you’re using to make that determination?


It appears I had slightly out of date data pulled from basketball reference which at the time I posted them showed them with the highest offensive rating in the league.

My apologies for posting bad info. Others have already corrected me itt, if you are curious what is correct. Though I'm guessing you already know I'm incorrect and just want to make sure I know. And considered me properly chastened.

I should have simply said great player leading a very good offense. I'll work to be more accurate moving forward.
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Post#69 » by rtiff68 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:25 pm

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rtiff68 wrote:
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fwiw his effectiveness at the rim is basically the same as last year and a bit worse than in year 2.

But I'm not here to pour cold water on Trae. He's one hell of an offensive player leading the best offense in the league(which has flown totally under the radar btw).


I’m not here to pour cold water on the Hawks either. I like their team, and I enjoy watching them (even more so now with the rule adjustments).

You said the emboldened quote above very “matter-of-factly,” and I guess I’m wondering what measurement(s) you’re using to make that determination?


It appears I had slightly out of date data pulled from basketball reference which at the time I posted them showed them with the highest offensive rating in the league.

My apologies for posting bad info. Others have already corrected me itt, if you are curious what is correct. Though I'm guessing you already know I'm incorrect and just want to make sure I know. And considered me properly chastened.

I should have simply said great player leading a very good offense. I'll work to be more accurate moving forward.


lol. I didn’t mean it like that, I was genuinely curious, as you aren’t one to typically engage in hyperbole. I skimmed the thread to see if you had already explained your take and apparently missed all of the above. My apologies.
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Post#70 » by Buzzard » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:26 pm

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rtiff68 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
fwiw his effectiveness at the rim is basically the same as last year and a bit worse than in year 2.

But I'm not here to pour cold water on Trae. He's one hell of an offensive player leading the best offense in the league(which has flown totally under the radar btw).


I’m not here to pour cold water on the Hawks either. I like their team, and I enjoy watching them (even more so now with the rule adjustments).

You said the emboldened quote above very “matter-of-factly,” and I guess I’m wondering what measurement(s) you’re using to make that determination?


It appears I had slightly out of date data pulled from basketball reference which at the time I posted them showed them with the highest offensive rating in the league.

My apologies for posting bad info. Others have already corrected me itt, if you are curious what is correct. Though I'm guessing you already know I'm incorrect and just want to make sure I know. And considered me properly chastened.

I should have simply said great player leading a very good offense. I'll work to be more accurate moving forward.

I can't count how many times I misread a stat. Wrong year, wrong month ( splits ), it happens. 1st, 2nd, or 3rd best offense. There is not a lot of difference. On the Hawks broadcast last night they said #1 and it confused me. I went and checked, they were still #3 for the season. They might have dropped a spot after last nights injury riddled fiasco...
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Post#71 » by Sothron » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
rtiff68 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
fwiw his effectiveness at the rim is basically the same as last year and a bit worse than in year 2.

But I'm not here to pour cold water on Trae. He's one hell of an offensive player leading the best offense in the league(which has flown totally under the radar btw).


I’m not here to pour cold water on the Hawks either. I like their team, and I enjoy watching them (even more so now with the rule adjustments).

You said the emboldened quote above very “matter-of-factly,” and I guess I’m wondering what measurement(s) you’re using to make that determination?


It appears I had slightly out of date data pulled from basketball reference which at the time I posted them showed them with the highest offensive rating in the league.

My apologies for posting bad info. Others have already corrected me itt, if you are curious what is correct. Though I'm guessing you already know I'm incorrect and just want to make sure I know. And considered me properly chastened.

I should have simply said great player leading a very good offense. I'll work to be more accurate moving forward.


Going into last night's game the Hawks did have the NBA's best offensive rating. I'm sure that dropped because our guys on a back to back had tired legs and Bogi and Cam got hurt in the first half and it really threw our lineups off the rest of the game.
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Post#72 » by michaelm » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:00 pm

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A non Hawks fan recognizing how truly great Trae Young is on realgm...I...don't know how to respond. Trae got robbed not just of an All Star but All NBA last season. I hope he finally gets the recognition he deserves this season. He's the best point guard in the NBA by far and should be first team All NBA this year.

Not better than Curry.

Fact that you gotta say it means Trae is at least within shooting distance of Curry.....maybe with a bull horn but he can see Curry in the distance. But Curry is a HOF 2 time MVP and 3 time champ having one of his best years and winning at a seriously high clip. Trae letting us know he can ball at an elite level. Look at that hawks roster...with Trae they could actually do something special

Perhaps so. That Curry pretty much seems to set out to eviscerate Trae every time they play each other could be seen as some sort of back handed compliment as well; I am actually being genuine, this could also be interpreted as him having registered on Curry’s radar.
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Post#73 » by ChuckChilly » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:16 pm

Trae's field shooting percentage can easily be 50% or better if he continues to clean up his shot selection and got more comfortable playing off the ball. It seems that he's finally realizing that he doesn't have to take incredibly long 3s just to get the shot off in the first place.
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Post#74 » by Sothron » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:17 pm

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michaelm wrote:Not better than Curry.

Fact that you gotta say it means Trae is at least within shooting distance of Curry.....maybe with a bull horn but he can see Curry in the distance. But Curry is a HOF 2 time MVP and 3 time champ having one of his best years and winning at a seriously high clip. Trae letting us know he can ball at an elite level. Look at that hawks roster...with Trae they could actually do something special

Perhaps so. That Curry pretty much seems to set out to eviscerate Trae every time they play each other could be seen as some pet of back handed compliment as well; I am actually being genuine, this could be interpreted as him having registered on Curry’s radar as well.


Considering that Curry isn't on Trae's level as a passer or point guard I can see why he's jealous of a superior player. Curry isn't even really a PG. He's a SG forced to play PG. He's a HOF player but he can't hold a candle to Trae's passing and ability to run an offense.
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Post#75 » by michaelm » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:22 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Fact that you gotta say it means Trae is at least within shooting distance of Curry.....maybe with a bull horn but he can see Curry in the distance. But Curry is a HOF 2 time MVP and 3 time champ having one of his best years and winning at a seriously high clip. Trae letting us know he can ball at an elite level. Look at that hawks roster...with Trae they could actually do something special

Perhaps so. That Curry pretty much seems to set out to eviscerate Trae every time they play each other could be seen as some pet of back handed compliment as well; I am actually being genuine, this could be interpreted as him having registered on Curry’s radar as well.


Considering that Curry isn't on Trae's level as a passer or point guard I can see why he's jealous of a superior player. Curry isn't even really a PG. He's a SG forced to play PG. He's a HOF player but he can't hold a candle to Trae's passing and ability to run an offense.

Curry doesn’t just set out to eviscerate Trae, he usually succeeds in doing so.

And if we are to indulge in hyperbole, Curry has elite pure PG skills apart from a tendency to turnovers which seems part of the general GSW ethos of pushing the boundaries/playing with joy, but is quite likely the best off ball player of all time, hence his deployment off ball. This is a similar argument to him not taking enough long two point shots.
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Post#76 » by DroseReturnChi » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:26 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Ice Trae seems like an awful nickname to me

Is that a legit name people are trying to stick him with?


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Post#77 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:46 pm

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Post#78 » by CobraCommander » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:27 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Image

Right on time to prove the point that the board sleeping while this man putting nba on notice. Closer to an all nba team than nod than missing all star this year.

A quarter of the year down and he looking like first or second team all nba so far...
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Post#79 » by flytimes11 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:52 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Ice Trae seems like an awful nickname to me

Is that a legit name people are trying to stick him with?


Trae is friends with the migos, an Atlanta rap group. They have a song called Ice Tray that was pretty popular in Atlanta and the south, It came out in 2017. I believe this is why the nickname stuck the way it did.
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Post#80 » by old skool » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:45 am

So far, 2021 Players of the Week includes Trae Young, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kevin Durant, Jarrett Allen & Jimmy Butler.

I don't think winning Player of the Week makes someone a lock for first team NBA. Especially when your team has been a disappointment in the first quarter of the season.

Last year the East had 14 POtW winners out of 18 total awards handed out.

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