Can you have a winning team but be unwatchable ?

[MindState]

Hardens Rockets.

Every single possession was a 24 second iso or freethrows.

Disgusting basketball.

[DavidSterned]

I don't understand how you could be alright with midrange chucking but the moment they take two steps back it is suddenly an issue.

Its jealousy and its pathetic. They recognize that their superstars they loved just weren’t good enough to shoot that well from further out from any type of pass, pumpfake or off any dribble like todays players can. Most don’t even admit that todays 3 point shooters are all miles ahead of even guys like Bird, Miller or Mullin and they all think if Bird would have a green light today he would be doing all the same stepback 3s and pick and roll pops that we see today. Truth is there is a reason players back then only took 3s when they were absolutely wide open. Any coach in the 80s would’ve met Curry or Dame and wouldve gave them the greenest of lights too.

Go look at 90% of Birds 3s and there isnt a defender within like 10 feet of him. Miller was shooting with defenders closer to him closing in from being picked but he couldn’t shoot of the dribble like guys today. Now guys are shooting from several feet behind the line with a hand challenge, off any type of move and still hitting at almost the same percentages as bird. If you can’t understand that, its either a severe lack of basketball knowledge or simply like I said before, just pathetic jealousy.

Uh, Bird hit an extremely high number of high difficulty perimeter shots during his career. Among the most in league history. He often buried leaners, fadeaways, and off balance shots with a hand in his face. It's just they were generally 18-23' out instead of 23'+ but that's a fairly minor adjustment that a player like him could and would make if he played today.

[Statlanta]

When the winning team underperforms expectations: 2013 Lakers and 2016 Rockets.
When the winning team has a boring star player.
When the winning team is bottom 20 in one side of the ball.

[TGW]

This year's Wizards is hard to watch.

[LesGrossman]

Duncan’s Spurs weren’t considered entertaining by casuals

ftfy

[jlokine]

spurs vs pistons was meh

[KGtabake]

Limoges 1993, Euroleague winners.
The worst basketball ever played by a champion.

[Eye of Horus]

OMG YES, I hated, and I mean hated the 2019 celtics team. Total dysfunction. ........I Hated having fake tough guy Morris, flat earth kyrie, scared Hayward, chucking rozier, and a coach that wanted to be liked and be friends, more then actually coach, Steven's has no spine.
Just a mess of a team that I hated to root for. The ending was perfect too. Watching kyrie With out a doubt ,quit on the team cause he was already going to Brooklyn. No one can convince me else wise. I saw that man say F it im out of here....hey Brooklyn fans...how's kyrie working out for you these days? Still on that..." he's gonna be different here" thing?

[tidho]

'LeBron-ball' was boring most of the time. he sure was able to rack up a lot of stats though, so there's that.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Portugal 2016

[CS707]

Anyone saying they dislike watching their team win due to stylistic issues is lying.

[dc]

Back in 2003 when the NBA Finals between the Spurs and the Nets was ongoing I remember how little anyone seemed to care, everything was about LeBron, Carmelo and a new generation of stars coming into the league.

Lebron/Carmelo hadn't yet been drafted at the time of that series.

People lost interest in that year's finals because the Lakers lost and their dream of a 4-peat ended. The Kings, who at the time were their chief rival, also lost when Webber's knee gave out. So there was no re-match of the epic WCF from the previous year (2002).

The Eastern Conf was arguably at its weakest point ever and the only thing anyone might've known was that Jason Kidd was playing for the Nets.

[a8bil]

the bad boy Pistons. What a blight on the NBA.

[TdotRap4Lyfe]

Houston with Prime Harden was unbearable to watch.

[MTJazzv3]

So far the Jazz fit that description this season. I think better things are ahead but man, can't tell you how many games I just stopped watching that they eventually won. Stakes and hopes are high in UT so anything less than a game effort every night is unwatchable.

[jbk1234]

90s Cavs under Mike Fetallio.

Yeah, it was like the Grindhouse Grizzlies with less talent sneaking into an eighth seed.

[ciueli]

Back in 2003 when the NBA Finals between the Spurs and the Nets was ongoing I remember how little anyone seemed to care, everything was about LeBron, Carmelo and a new generation of stars coming into the league.

Lebron/Carmelo hadn't yet been drafted at the time of that series.

People lost interest in that year's finals because the Lakers lost and their dream of a 4-peat ended. The Kings, who at the time were their chief rival, also lost when Webber's knee gave out. So there was no re-match of the epic WCF from the previous year (2002).

The Eastern Conf was arguably at its weakest point ever and the only thing anyone might've known was that Jason Kidd was playing for the Nets.

Even before the draft the hype was huge around LeBron and Carmelo. LeBron was going to be the next big star and his high school games were on ESPN. Carmelo led his team to a NCAA championship as a freshman. I remember exactly what it was like and a lot of people were more excited about the draft than the NBA Finals.

[bearadonisdna]

Anyone saying they dislike watching their team win due to stylistic issues is lying.

This is the point of the thread to determine that it is a reality .

If this were the nfl I would give your point more merit .
Most nfl will not care if their teams style if they are are winning .
In that sport I feel winning is the coup de gras. You can pass for 50 yards run for 50 , but if win you had a good game . And fans will flock .
In basketball that is trash .

For analogy I use the dunk contest .
It’s not the final result of the basketball being dunked that makes the score.

It’s all the other subjective stuff that makes the score where the ball going through is just a technicality . It needs to have style , never been seen before , landings , etc.

The objective occurrence of the ball going through the hoop is probably what is remembered least .

[bearadonisdna]

Also as great as jokic is ,
You don’t think there’s a nugget fan out there who hates watching his team , with a every down superstar who doesn’t even really jump .

A guy pivoting free throw line extended all game .
The thing is we have seen exciting basketball in the 80s ,90s, 2000s.

Some 20 years later to see your team play or execute worse than the bar established 20 years ago , it can feel like a regression .

[CS707]

Anyone saying they dislike watching their team win due to stylistic issues is lying.

This is the point of the thread to determine that it is a reality .

If this were the nfl I would give your point more merit .
Most nfl will not care if their teams style if they are are winning .
In that sport I feel winning is the coup de gras. You can pass for 50 yards run for 50 , but if win you had a good game . And fans will flock .
In basketball that is trash .

For analogy I use the dunk contest .
It’s not the final result of the basketball being dunked that makes the score.

It’s all the other subjective stuff that makes the score where the ball going through is just a technicality . It needs to have style , never been seen before , landings , etc.

The objective occurrence of the ball going through the hoop is probably what is remembered least .

Seems like you’re trying way too hard to make this deep or controversial. There isn’t a single fan of any team in any sport that would rather lose in style than win unremarkably. It’s just not a thing. That’s not to say that fans can’t be snobbish about their teams style of play (Barca) but they’re not willing lose over it.