PG: tank world order treads along

[DelAbbot]

He is young but his mindset/game is based on isolation and ball-stopping - not conducive to winning basketball in the playoffs, unless his talent level reaches that of MJ or KD. Also he will get paid a lot soon for putting up volume stats on our team, which is devoid of shooting and offense creation.

Selfish volume shooter + high salary is not a combination that leads to championship.

??? GTJR is 22???

Don’t get why you want trade GTJR? What is the rational

he has a player option after year 2... already a super ball hog... already making 18 million.. I want him to be our 6th man / instant offense.. has no reason being in the starting 5.. him and Pascal... and to even a certain extent FVV.. are going to be stunt Barnes growth.. unless they miraclously learn how to play team basketball overnight.

[johanliebert]

lol this is clearly a teenager. Go back and look up what the raptors were before Masai came.

He inherited colangelo’ s core.

oh you mean when he immediately got rid of Bargnani and Rudy Gay, two of BC's most notable acquisitions?
Cleary, Colangelo's core.

Lowry/Derozan/jv/ross. That core led to everything Masai only now is building his team.

[johanliebert]

Only thing I’ll say is barnes settled for way too many 3’s. Thing about the 3 i when it starts falling you don’t want to attack the basket.

[akiman911]

Only thing I’ll say is barnes settled for way too many 3’s. Thing about the 3 i when it starts falling you don’t want to attack the basket.

Barnes shot 4/9. That's almost 45%.

Maybe try again


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[bape_lovers]

Doesn’t matter, he is making them in a high clip. just like Scottie, I don’t understand why he can’t “develop”, so if Scottie does the same thing? Are we gonna trade Him? Everyone on the boards want’s Scottie to take more shots.

He is young but his mindset/game is based on isolation and ball-stopping - not conducive to winning basketball in the playoffs, unless his talent level reaches that of MJ or KD. Also he will get paid a lot soon for putting up volume stats on our team, which is devoid of shooting and offense creation.

Selfish volume shooter + high salary is not a combination that leads to championship.

??? GTJR is 22???

he has a player option after year 2... already a super ball hog... already making 18 million.. I want him to be our 6th man / instant offense.. has no reason being in the starting 5.. him and Pascal... and to even a certain extent FVV.. are going to be stunt Barnes growth.. unless they miraclously learn how to play team basketball overnight.

[C_Money]

Just finished the game. Achiuwa sucks and there’s no impact from the bench when they come in. I’m surprised we were even able to keep it close with all the injuries.

[TheRealDeal]

If teams have to start respecting Scottie from deep it could really open up his game offensively

[seanbig]

We need to fire Bjorkman lol

you mean fire him for coaching team canada in FIBA game today LOL

Sorry I guess my lame joke didn't land with you?

My bad missed the green font

[Indeed]

He is young but his mindset/game is based on isolation and ball-stopping - not conducive to winning basketball in the playoffs, unless his talent level reaches that of MJ or KD. Also he will get paid a lot soon for putting up volume stats on our team, which is devoid of shooting and offense creation.

Selfish volume shooter + high salary is not a combination that leads to championship.

??? GTJR is 22???

he has a player option after year 2... already a super ball hog... already making 18 million.. I want him to be our 6th man / instant offense.. has no reason being in the starting 5.. him and Pascal... and to even a certain extent FVV.. are going to be stunt Barnes growth.. unless they miraclously learn how to play team basketball overnight.

My concern with Trent is more related to his passing. He seems to be improving slightly on that, so we shall see.

The biggest question is, which team would want Trent as their starting SG/SF?

[Los_29]

He is young but his mindset/game is based on isolation and ball-stopping - not conducive to winning basketball in the playoffs, unless his talent level reaches that of MJ or KD. Also he will get paid a lot soon for putting up volume stats on our team, which is devoid of shooting and offense creation.

Selfish volume shooter + high salary is not a combination that leads to championship.

??? GTJR is 22???

he has a player option after year 2... already a super ball hog... already making 18 million.. I want him to be our 6th man / instant offense.. has no reason being in the starting 5.. him and Pascal... and to even a certain extent FVV.. are going to be stunt Barnes growth.. unless they miraclously learn how to play team basketball overnight.

If he's not conducive to winning basketball in the playoffs then why will he get paid a lot? Why were teams interested in him this year and willing to give him a lot of money despite him having the flaws that you said he has? Did they just not see these flaws?

[johanliebert]

Only thing I’ll say is barnes settled for way too many 3’s. Thing about the 3 i when it starts falling you don’t want to attack the basket.

Barnes shot 4/9. That's almost 45%.

Maybe try again


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Learn to read.

Once he hit a few he stopped getting into the paint. He shouldn’t fall in love with that shot.

[johanliebert]

If teams have to start respecting Scottie from deep it could really open up his game offensively

They’ll let him shoot that all day just as they do siakam. You aren’t hurting teams settling for jumpers.

[Tha Cynic]

I can't remember a time I've disliked a raptors this this much.

The team doesn't understand basic basketball.

Everyone just here punching in their time to get paid but not thinking about the overall team but themselves.

I'm worried Scottie will get bad habits but I'm hoping he's one of those players that lead the change for the better.

All I see is finger pointing, lazy defense, running around without a purpose and looking for their own stats empty stats. We really do miss Lowry. Barnes can be that guy but his vets won't let him out shine them.

Well the only way Barnes can score right now is when he isolates and plays outside of a team offense. That's ba basically how most of this team scores.

Banton also played a more team game when he first started, but now he's always looking for his own shot.

I'm not a big fan of this individual offense that this team is learning. This team used to be so good in the past because they moved the ball around. This is a very different Nurse team on offense right now.

[Indeed]

Just finished the game. Achiuwa sucks and there’s no impact from the bench when they come in. I’m surprised we were even able to keep it close with all the injuries.

I guess we played 36+ mins with our starters, and I feel they were gassed out with more mistakes in the last 2 - 3 mins of the game.

it is hard when we played Flynn, Bonga and Champagnie for those minutes, and that was exactly the difference of the game (not including the refs part).

[DelAbbot]

He is young but his mindset/game is based on isolation and ball-stopping - not conducive to winning basketball in the playoffs, unless his talent level reaches that of MJ or KD. Also he will get paid a lot soon for putting up volume stats on our team, which is devoid of shooting and offense creation.

Selfish volume shooter + high salary is not a combination that leads to championship.

My concern with Trent is more related to his passing. He seems to be improving slightly on that, so we shall see.

The biggest question is, which team would want Trent as their starting SG/SF?

I just looked up GTJ's NBA draft scouting report again - and all his red flags we see today were present when he was being drafted. I bolded the key points. He hasn't changed at all since he entered the league.

Weaknesses: Average run/jump athlete … Lacks explosiveness … Does not possess quick feet or lateral quickness… Plays mostly below the rim … Does not have an ideal combination of size, length, and leaping ability, which can make it hard for him to fight for rebounds or make plays at the rim at the next level … Can be a streaky shooter … Spotty shot selection at times … An inefficient scorer from inside the arc … Lacks an elite first step off the dribble … He’s not overly creative or explosive with the ball in his hands … Would rather bulldoze his way through opponents on his way to the basket … Lacking great speed, he relies heavily on his strength … Does not create for his teammates as much as you’d like to see … Can be categorized as a reluctant (or even bad) passer, often becoming too focused on scoring on offense … Decent, but not elite, ball-handler … Does not project as a great perimeter defender at the next level … Lacks fluidity in his movements for a wing player … Gives inconsistent effort on the defensive end of the floor … May struggle to guard quicker and more athletic players in one-on-one situations …Will need to show that he can consistently excel on defense … Prone to gamble for steals …
Overall: Gary Trent Jr. is a potential first round pick in this year’s draft … He has a strong frame and great confidence as a shooter … Theoretically, he could fill the role of a 3&D at the next level … But he’ll have to buy into that role first, as he’s shown to primarily place his focus on just trying to be a scorer …

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/gary-trent-jr/

[DelAbbot]

I can't remember a time I've disliked a raptors this this much.

The team doesn't understand basic basketball.

Everyone just here punching in their time to get paid but not thinking about the overall team but themselves.

I'm worried Scottie will get bad habits but I'm hoping he's one of those players that lead the change for the better.

All I see is finger pointing, lazy defense, running around without a purpose and looking for their own stats empty stats. We really do miss Lowry. Barnes can be that guy but his vets won't let him out shine them.

Well the only way Barnes can score right now is when he isolates and plays outside of a team offense. That's ba basically how most of this team scores.

Banton also played a more team game when he first started, but now he's always looking for his own shot.

I'm not a big fan of this individual offense that this team is learning. This team used to be so good in the past because they moved the ball around. This is a very different Nurse team on offense right now.

I'm pretty sure that is by design - we want to develop Barnes' isolation game. When I watch his moves, at his size, it just projects a Kawhi-nesque isolation scorer for us in 3-4 years time.

OG started just cutting and catch and shoot 3's.

[LarSiN]

I can't remember a time I've disliked a raptors team this much.

Really?? We were spoiled for 7 years, but man I can think of SO many more difficult to watch years than this.

[Childs]

I just feel bad for Fred and some of our starters. He has to play 40 mins a night, be good defensively, score, and getting no support from the bench.

[Tha Cynic]

At some point this team needs to realize they have no stars on this team. The only way they will win is by playing hard on defense and sharing the ball on offense. Defense has to be the first focus.

There is zero reason for Siakam to be isolating so much, and zero reason why FVV can't just make the simple pass to the open guy. Too many times he looks off wide open players to try to force feed Siakam or take a bad shot. Neither are that type of superstar level player. They are borderline Allstars who are not even as good as the Derozan/ Lowry combo from back in the day. Siakam goes into tunnel vision way too often now for a guy who can be a great passer.

Flynn needs to play more. While his shot is off, he can run the point pretty effectively when he doesn't try to mimic FVV's game.

I'm not sure why Nurse puts out these strange lineups that have no scorers. He has games where he takes our all of Barnes, Siakam and FVV at the same time. It makes zero sense.

Svi seems to be of the same mindset as Boucher - shoot more and get paid regardless of how terrible you look on offense sometimes.

[jeffyjaixx]

One of our biggest issues is no bench impact.

This is a good year to develop Barnes and banton, hope to get another good pick next year.