2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

mjkvol · Post #141 » by **mjkvol** » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:19 pm

Kobblehead wrote: Also, why would you ever want two players 6'10" 250++ pounds on the court together at the same time in the modern NBA?

Elton Brand says he'll stop by later to answer.

Kobblehead · Post #142 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:41 pm

TyTy Washington has eerily similar numbers to Maxey.

Kobblehead · Post #143 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:37 pm

Jalen Duren looked terrible against Iowa State.

2 points in 22 minutes on 1-4 shooting with 5 turnovers.

Kobblehead · Post #144 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:38 pm

Panchero looked good last night. He and Strawther looked like the two best players on the court in the Zaga/Duke game.

stormi · Post #145 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 pm

Read on Twitter

Infatuated. Keep losing y'all.

76ciology · Post #146 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:24 pm

Both Banchero and Chet’s number checks out.

Chet for me is clearly better than Banchero, but Banchero is also really good dont get me wrong.

Banchero’s numbers is a lot better than Cade Cunningham. That’s how good he is, for now.

Could change. It’s still early, but Holmgren is AD-Embiid-Zion caliber prospect for me.

Kobblehead · Post #147 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:35 pm

76iology, you need to check out Auburn's Jabari Smith.

Paul George 2.0

76ciology · Post #148 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:26 am

Kobblehead wrote:76iology, you need to check out Auburn's Jabari Smith.

Paul George 2.0

Didnt know about him until u mentioned him. Yeah, he’s better than Banchero. I have Chet then Jabari and Banchero at the same tier where Jabari is higher. I have Jabari higher because of his better 3pt shooting and deflections over Banchero. PG is a good comparison.

Banchero looks like Duke’s Jabari Parker with better PG ability.

All 3 guys are worthy to be top 3 picks, and are very likely to be star players. But Chet for me, right now, is class above the rest.

Rastas · Post #149 » by **Rastas** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:24 pm

A quick 30sec's look at Chet tells me this 7foot Twigg is not made to last too long in the NBA, once he starts banging with much stronger bodies his game will fall away.
At best I see him lasting a lil longer as a stretch 4, but as a team's primary C - no chance.
College Fool's Gold.

stormi · Post #150 » by **stormi** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:28 pm

Teams that drafted stiffs like Isaac Okoro, Kevin Knox and De'Andre Hunter with high picks in recent years must be sick to their stomach watching the unicorn 6'8+ beasts with guard skills relentlessly spawning now.

76ciology · Post #151 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:12 pm

Rastas wrote:A quick 30sec's look at Chet tells me this 7foot Twigg is not made to last too long in the NBA, once he starts banging with much stronger bodies his game will fall away.
At best I see him lasting a lil longer as a stretch 4, but as a team's primary C - no chance.
College Fool's Gold.

Yes he needs to get stronger and im confident he’ll be stronger with the Kevin Durant trajectory then I do expect him to play 3-4.

The way he changes the game is like those ATG big prospects like Zion, Biid and AD. He’s a big who I’d make an exemption to draft with a top pick over perimeter guys.

Kobblehead · Post #152 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:36 pm

I think Chet is kinda gawky and awkward. I don't see athletic fluidity in him enough to be a perimeter ball handler like Durant. I think Chet is strictly a big. He's another Poku.

Kobblehead · Post #153 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:19 pm

Wisconsin's Jonathan Davis is off to a good start. Sneaky good two-way game.

Rastas · Post #154 » by **Rastas** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:55 am

76ciology wrote:
Rastas wrote:A quick 30sec's look at Chet tells me this 7foot Twigg is not made to last too long in the NBA, once he starts banging with much stronger bodies his game will fall away.
At best I see him lasting a lil longer as a stretch 4, but as a team's primary C - no chance.
College Fool's Gold.

Yes he needs to get stronger and im confident he’ll be stronger with the Kevin Durant trajectory then I do expect him to play 3-4.

The way he changes the game is like those ATG big prospects like Zion, Biid and AD. He’s a big who I’d make an exemption to draft with a top pick over perimeter guys.

Kids like Durant and Ingram were only half Praying Mantis , you could see how much smoother they were and their potential.
Unfortunately for Chet he is a full on Praying Mantis and kids his build are not long lasting in the NBA.
The best hyped up Mantis taken high was Porzingas and he avoids contact alot more than Chet seems to , so expect an even more time on the sidelines Porzingas career as Chets ceiling.
Any GM that takes him in the top 5 will regret it.

76ciology · Post #155 » by **76ciology** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:06 am

I honestly, have no clue how his body will turnout.

But I’d still draft Chet, for now, over the rest of the guys. I’d just have to surround him with a roster structure that can hide his weakness and showcase his strength.

Rastas · Post #156 » by **Rastas** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:27 am

76ciology wrote:I honestly, have no clue how his body will turnout.

But I’d still draft Chet, for now, over the rest of the guys. I’d just have to surround him with a roster structure that can hide his weakness and showcase his strength.

That's fair if you really feel that way.

With me I am way more into athletes with strength and durability as an upside.

I honestly look at Chet and wish he can play with other young kids all his career, because as soon as he is thrown in with Men and Big Hard bodies his time on the court is going to be short.

76ciology · Post #157 » by **76ciology** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:40 am

Rastas wrote:
76ciology wrote:I honestly, have no clue how his body will turnout.

But I’d still draft Chet, for now, over the rest of the guys. I’d just have to surround him with a roster structure that can hide his weakness and showcase his strength.

That's fair if you really feel that way.

With me I am way more into athletes with strength and durability as an upside.

I honestly look at Chet and wish he can play with other young kids all his career, because as soon as he is thrown in with Men and Big Hard bodies his time on the court is going to be short.

I think you have to hide him. Where you play him at 3&4 with someone like Jerami Grant then interchange him defending the opponent’s 3 or 4, depending on the match-up. Defensively, in 3-5 years, I dont think he’d be weaker or be less physical than Tobi or Roco or Porz.

Forward talent is thin in the league, its as if you almost just have a spot up shooter (3&D or stretch 4) in one of those positions.

I just dont think Chet is a prospect you can pass up easily compared to Paolo or Jabari. His upside is just too high and it’s translating to how his impact is on the court with how he can change a game.

Rastas · Post #158 » by **Rastas** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:25 am

76ciology wrote:
Rastas wrote:
76ciology wrote:I honestly, have no clue how his body will turnout.

But I’d still draft Chet, for now, over the rest of the guys. I’d just have to surround him with a roster structure that can hide his weakness and showcase his strength.

That's fair if you really feel that way.

With me I am way more into athletes with strength and durability as an upside.

I honestly look at Chet and wish he can play with other young kids all his career, because as soon as he is thrown in with Men and Big Hard bodies his time on the court is going to be short.

I think you have to hide him. Where you play him at 3&4 with someone like Jerami Grant then interchange him defending the opponent’s 3 or 4, depending on the match-up. Defensively, in 3-5 years, I dont think he’d be weaker or be less physical than Tobi or Roco or Porz.

Forward talent is thin in the league, its as if you almost just have a spot up shooter (3&D or stretch 4) in one of those positions.

I just dont think Chet is a prospect you can pass up easily compared to Paolo or Jabari. His upside is just too high and it’s translating to how his impact is on the court with how he can change a game.

Well no doubt he will be drafted (unless major injury) by someone and we will all see how his career unfolds , I generally try not to talk bad of any decent basketballer and no doubt Chet has some decent skills but I will happily go on record as saying I highly doubt he has any big impact for a NBA team and a notably short career (say 5 to 6 years tops).
This is not me wishing the kid an injury or anything - this is me worried for the injuries I'm expecting to happen to him once he's in the NBA.
Stretch 4 with some Defence will be his best chance , does not posses the stamina/durability for a NBA 3 .

stormi · Post #159 » by **stormi** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:46 pm

36 Pts(14-19 FGs, 8-11 FTs)
18 Rebs
4 Ast

Baby Randle?

Zion without the freakish leap?

KramerDSP · Post #160 » by **KramerDSP** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:12 pm

Rastas wrote:A quick 30sec's look at Chet tells me this 7foot Twigg is not made to last too long in the NBA, once he starts banging with much stronger bodies his game will fall away.
At best I see him lasting a lil longer as a stretch 4, but as a team's primary C - no chance.
College Fool's Gold.

Durant was a twig in college, too. I think he couldn’t even do a push up at the combine if I remember correctly, and he turned out to become one of the all time greats. I think everyone that has ever worked with Chet raves about his skill level.

FWIw, I have it as ultimately Jabari at 1, followed by Chet at 2 and Banchero at 3. Jabari is going to be a super sized Paul George.