Predict Scottie Barnes stats for the year.

Bruin · Post #161 » by **Bruin** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:55 pm

I’m gonna go with 17-8-4

HomieOmey · Post #162 » by **HomieOmey** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:37 pm

Madhouse wrote:The assists won't be that high as long as Barnes isn't the de facto PG and primary ball handler.

His PPG and RPG will be higher than projected though if he keeps starting.

The rebounding has definitely surprised me! Hoping to see a lot more playmaking. Doesn't quite feel like the PG most want just yet, but you're right that they're not really giving it to him to create for others.

raptorforlife88 · Post #163 » by **raptorforlife88** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:10 pm

19 games in and he's averaging 15.2/8.3/3.3/1.1/0.6.

Vast majority of people in this thread including myself and everyone else who thought he'd be good eventually did not see this coming.

Maybe 5 games in was too early to look at it, but a quarter of the season is done and he's kept up the scoring. He really does have the potential to be a top 10 player in this league.

raptorforlife88 · Post #164 » by **raptorforlife88** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:15 pm

720 wrote:If Barnes could prove all of us wrong and play his way into the starting lineup and average something crazy like 15 ppg his rookie year that would be some next level god tier drafting by our organization.

Well so far so good.

Tha Cynic · Post #165 » by **Tha Cynic** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:17 pm

Did anyone predict that he will take 9 3s in one game and make 4 of them? This guy is going to be a stud offensively in a few years (much quicker than anyone expected).

His offense is way ahead, but his defense needs a lot of work. He's a very smart player so that should improve.

OakleyDokely · Post #166 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:06 pm

3pt %, top 6 in draft:

The Bigs
Mobley: 33.3 (1.9 attempts)
Barnes: 32.1 (1.5 attempts)

The Smalls
Green: 27.8 (6.4 attempts)
Giddey: 27.7 (3.4 attempts)
Suggs: 24.8 (5.1 attempts)
Cade: 24.5 (7.3 attempts)

Kingsway_fan · Post #167 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:09 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:3pt %, top 6 in draft:

The Bigs
Mobley: 33.3 (1.9 attempts)
Barnes: 32.1 (1.5 attempts)

The Smalls
Green: 27.8 (6.4 attempts)
Giddey: 27.7 (3.4 attempts)
Suggs: 24.8 (5.1 attempts)
Cade: 24.5 (7.3 attempts)

Nice summary.. yes impressive... Mobley and Barnes stand out above the rest so far.... two horse race...

OakleyDokely · Post #168 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:15 pm

FG%, Top 6 in draft

The Bigs
Mobley: 48.9% (11.8 attempts)
Barnes: 48.5% (12.7 attempts)

The Smalls:
Giddey: 40.3 (11.1 attempts)
Green: 38.2 (12.7 attempts)
Suggs: 33.6 (12.2 attempts)
Cade: 33.5 (14.1 attempts)

brownbobcat · Post #169 » by **brownbobcat** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:17 pm

raptorforlife88 wrote:19 games in and he's averaging 15.2/8.3/3.3/1.1/0.6.

Vast majority of people in this thread including myself and everyone else who thought he'd be good eventually did not see this coming.

Maybe 5 games in was too early to look at it, but a quarter of the season is done and he's kept up the scoring. He really does have the potential to be a top 10 player in this league.

I don't think anybody thought he'd be playing 35 minutes a night, either. Most were thinking 25 MPG tops based on how raw he looked earlier on. What's funny is that most of the weaknesses in skillset are still there (apart from the shooting), but his ball IQ allows him to adapt around them.

Psubs · Post #170 » by **Psubs** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:20 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Did anyone predict that he will take 9 3s in one game and make 4 of them? This guy is going to be a stud offensively in a few years (much quicker than anyone expected).

His offense is way ahead, but his defense needs a lot of work, but he's a very smart player so that should improve.

I wouldn't say he needs A LOT of work. Siakam needs more work IMO.

He's strong and a tad bit bulky. In the off-season, he can work on his lateral quickness on defense but he's adequate as a rookie.

OakleyDokely · Post #171 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:20 pm

raptorforlife88 wrote:19 games in and he's averaging 15.2/8.3/3.3/1.1/0.6.

Vast majority of people in this thread including myself and everyone else who thought he'd be good eventually did not see this coming.

Maybe 5 games in was too early to look at it, but a quarter of the season is done and he's kept up the scoring. He really does have the potential to be a top 10 player in this league.

And unlike his contemporaries (along with Mobley), he's shooting well from the field for a rook. His shooting splits of 49/32/73 are probably the biggest surprise of all.

lobosloboslobos · Post #172 » by **lobosloboslobos** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:23 pm

my goodness those first 5-6 pages of this thread are an entertaining read at this point...lol

Psubs · Post #173 » by **Psubs** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:23 pm

PrinceAli wrote:I’m gonna go with 17-8-4

I see Chris Webber with better 3pt and FT shooting. :droop:

OakleyDokely · Post #174 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:31 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:my goodness those first 5-6 pages of this thread are an entertaining read at this point...lol

I've never been more happy about being so wrong about a player.

Vampirate · Post #175 » by **Vampirate** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:42 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
lobosloboslobos wrote:my goodness those first 5-6 pages of this thread are an entertaining read at this point...lol
I've never been more happy about being so wrong about a player.

Tbh, if he puts the work in with his height and wingspan and fluidity I see no reason why he can't be at least a league average shooter.

Who knows, he may even become a good-elite one (won't happen for a long while, like 3-6 seasons in, but possible), I mean look at Jaylen Brown, Norman Powell, OG etc.

8 times out of 10 he's going to have a good look because of his height and has the capability to get his shot off.

We were all dead wrong about this guy.

I never ever thought he'd go 4/9 from 3 this season.

You just can't teach the willingness to listen to your coaches and the desire to improve.

OakleyDokely · Post #176 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:44 pm

Vampirate wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
lobosloboslobos wrote:my goodness those first 5-6 pages of this thread are an entertaining read at this point...lol
I've never been more happy about being so wrong about a player.

Tbh, if he puts the work in with his height and wingspan and fluidity I see no reason why he can't be at least a league average shooter.

Who knows, he may even become a good-elite one (won't happen for a long while, like 3-6 seasons in, but possible), I mean look at Jaylen Brown, Norman Powell, OG etc.

8 times out of 10 he's going to have a good look because of his height and has the capability to get his shot off.

We were all dead wrong about this guy.

I never ever thought he'd go 4/9 from 3 this season.

You just can't teach the willingness to listen to your coaches and the desire to improve.

The way he can get his shot off from everywhere reminds me of Kawhi. He's almost unblockable in his shooting motion.

Vampirate · Post #177 » by **Vampirate** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:50 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:I've never been more happy about being so wrong about a player.

Tbh, if he puts the work in with his height and wingspan and fluidity I see no reason why he can't be at least a league average shooter.

Who knows, he may even become a good-elite one (won't happen for a long while, like 3-6 seasons in, but possible), I mean look at Jaylen Brown, Norman Powell, OG etc.

8 times out of 10 he's going to have a good look because of his height and has the capability to get his shot off.

We were all dead wrong about this guy.

I never ever thought he'd go 4/9 from 3 this season.

You just can't teach the willingness to listen to your coaches and the desire to improve.
The way he can get his shot off from everywhere reminds me of Kawhi. He's almost unblockable in his shooting motion.

It's a long shot as I don't know just how good a shooter/ball handler he's gonna be but his max ceiling is basically Kawhi who excels at running point guard. Like a Giannis/kawhi hybrid sort of. Someone who you can run the offense through like lebron but is also an assassin of a shooter like Kawhi.

He imo has the highest offensive ceiling in the draft (scoring/playmaking), Mobley has the actual highest ceiling because of his defense but I think Barnes offensive ceiling is higher. I'm obviously biased.

Madhouse · Post #178 » by **Madhouse** » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:14 pm

This is a fun thread to look back at.

The 2 worst predictions were that Suggs would double his stats and that he would average like 5 points on 39% shooting.

The best predictions came from hype, he was spot on.

But I maintain my opinion that injuries during the season have stopped him from posting bigger stat lines. When he was healthy he averaged 18/9/2/1/1 the first week or 2. Then he averaged 17/8/4/1/2 when the hand was healed. Now he is averaging 19/8/3/2/1 post all star break as he is past his knee issues.

Madhouse · Post #179 » by **Madhouse** » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:14 pm

Westside Gunn wrote:8-10PPG 5RPG

I'm more than ready to dismiss him as a bust in the first year. Seems like an extremely flawed player but excited to see what you can get

OakleyDokely · Post #180 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:17 pm

Backcountry wrote:Since everyone is being fairly conservative (pointed exception is NinjaBro!), I'm going to go with some ROY-range numbers. Can't win if you don't play.

17 points
4.2 assists
8 rpg (5 off/3 def)
1.9 steals
2 blocks
51% shooting
35% 3-point on low-volume
82% FT

everyone was **** on him but these are close to his numbers (minus the steals / blocks)