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dcstanley wrote:This Suns revival really highlights how insanely valuable of a player CP3 is (even at his advanced age). The only significant difference between the 19-20 Suns and last years iteration is some internal development and CP3 replacing Rubio and Oubre.
Ballerhogger wrote:Stockton was never dirty player like Paul was , he was tough but not like Paul and he didn’t flop like Paul did . Who helped innovate the flopping epidemic . Malone off court yes sick .. but on the court he was tough and fair player for the most part.dhsilv2 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:A CP3 thread that starts off with "got to kind of feel sorry for the dude."
Ya, nope haha. When it comes to basketball related stuff, he is near the bottom of the list for guys that I will ever feel sorry for. Cant stand his attitude, might be the most pompous player in the league since he came into the league, and he has been one of the dirtiest players as well.
Dont get me wrong, this isn't me saying CP3 isn't an all time great PG and a lock HOF. Not me bashing his game what so ever, but ya he is one of the players I enjoy most seeing get eliminated every year.
I think you can feel this way and STILL feel sorry for the player too. I hate and I mean hate shaq as a player. Hell, I'm not a fan of him as an analyst. But I respect him and I'm legit happy his career success mirrors his talent to enough of a degree. Mean while I wasn't a fan of KG at all either, maybe more so than Shaq and maybe you think KG is a top 20 vs a top 10 guy....either way his success sucks and I feel sorry for him. I also think he's a bumbling moron on tv today as an adult who should know more.
CP3 might be a guy you don't like and as a fan you want to fail....but when you look back on his career....I feel like you're not human if you don't think "wow....yeah he should have gotten more success...he just ran into the wrong success stories and wow that sucks". Same with stockton and malone *my least favorite duo ever".
Lost92Bricks wrote:I'm tired of this narrative. The Warriors did this to everybody.
Harden, Lebron, Lillard, Westbrook, Durant (before he joined them), AD, the Spurs.
If you were in the west, the Warriors dominated you.
CP3 gave them their toughest fights. He is 9-9 against them in the playoffs. Beat them in 2014, up 3-2 against them in 2018 before getting injured and lost in 6 games the next year.
When he was in Houston, they were even with the Warriors (with KD) regular season and playoff-wise.
SpreeS wrote:DoItALL9 wrote:Warriors vs Suns will be great but both will struggle to stop the current in his prime Giannis if they make it to the Finals. The Warriors likely have a better chance of outscoring Milwaukee.
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We have DPOY level player at PF position and by far the best defence in NBA.
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
QingJames wrote:SpreeS wrote:DoItALL9 wrote:Warriors vs Suns will be great but both will struggle to stop the current in his prime Giannis if they make it to the Finals. The Warriors likely have a better chance of outscoring Milwaukee.
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We have DPOY level player at PF position and by far the best defence in NBA.
Draymond isn’t what he used to be. I watched Pascal Siakam abuse him at will in the finals. If Siakam can do it, Giannis will just bowl over the guy.
Warriorfan wrote:QingJames wrote:SpreeS wrote:
We have DPOY level player at PF position and by far the best defence in NBA.
Draymond isn’t what he used to be. I watched Pascal Siakam abuse him at will in the finals. If Siakam can do it, Giannis will just bowl over the guy.
Giannis vs Green. Though KD also matches up as well
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/giannis_antetokounmpo_vs_draymond_green.htm
Curry usually performs above average against JRue
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/stephen_curry_vs_jrue_holiday.htm
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
QingJames wrote:Warriorfan wrote:QingJames wrote:Draymond isn’t what he used to be. I watched Pascal Siakam abuse him at will in the finals. If Siakam can do it, Giannis will just bowl over the guy.
Giannis vs Green. Though KD also matches up as well
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/giannis_antetokounmpo_vs_draymond_green.htm
Curry usually performs above average against JRue
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/stephen_curry_vs_jrue_holiday.htm
Yeah I mean just looking at that link, it's pretty clear Draymond hasn't really been able to prevent Giannis from scoring big on high efficiency in recent years, and nor has he been able to disrupt Giannis' playmaking ability. There's just no chance for Draymond guarding Giannis straight up at this point. Maybe Draymond of 5 years ago but not today's Dray.
ILOVEIT wrote:Got to kind of feel sorry for this dude. 2014 and he had a great team while on the Clippers. THEY had just beaten the Warriors in the first round and THEY were the next big thing. Lob city.
Warriors went on to destroy them for the next three years. I mean it was complete ownage.
Then he joins Houston. Houston puts together THE team to beat the Warriors.
Fully healthy, Warriors knock them out of the playoffs.
Then CP3 and Houston looks like they are about to FINALLY beat the Warriors ...and Chris pulls a hamstring....
That brings us to tomorrow night's matchup. Will Chris Paul finally get over on the Warriors curse? Will the Warriors knock Chris Paul's team out of the West in the conference finals?
Going to be interesting to see if CP3 can finally get over on Curry and the Warriors.
QingJames wrote:Warriorfan wrote:QingJames wrote:Draymond isn’t what he used to be. I watched Pascal Siakam abuse him at will in the finals. If Siakam can do it, Giannis will just bowl over the guy.
Giannis vs Green. Though KD also matches up as well
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/giannis_antetokounmpo_vs_draymond_green.htm
Curry usually performs above average against JRue
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/stephen_curry_vs_jrue_holiday.htm
Yeah I mean just looking at that link, it's pretty clear Draymond hasn't really been able to prevent Giannis from scoring big on high efficiency in recent years, and nor has he been able to disrupt Giannis' playmaking ability. There's just no chance for Draymond guarding Giannis straight up at this point. Maybe Draymond of 5 years ago but not today's Dray.
Lalouie wrote:we won't know until the playoffs
in the meantime, think about all those players who faced the bulls, the bird celts, the magic lakers, and the 60s celts
no, i won't feel sorry for cp3 if he loses again
Warriorfan wrote:QingJames wrote:Warriorfan wrote:
Giannis vs Green. Though KD also matches up as well
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/giannis_antetokounmpo_vs_draymond_green.htm
Curry usually performs above average against JRue
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/stephen_curry_vs_jrue_holiday.htm
Yeah I mean just looking at that link, it's pretty clear Draymond hasn't really been able to prevent Giannis from scoring big on high efficiency in recent years, and nor has he been able to disrupt Giannis' playmaking ability. There's just no chance for Draymond guarding Giannis straight up at this point. Maybe Draymond of 5 years ago but not today's Dray.
Actually actually Green has outscored Giannis
Green is DPOY level this year with help.
So it's a matter of opinion not supported by the link.
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
floppymoose wrote:I just hope CP tries to lock Curry out of the gym again, or says something to him. Then I'll feel confident.
Did...did you just call cp3 6'3?bbalnation wrote:floppymoose wrote:I just hope CP tries to lock Curry out of the gym again, or says something to him. Then I'll feel confident.
You've gotta admit the shimmy he gave Steph was cool, or at least a little entertaining/funny.
Chris has been the Warriors most consistent obstacle, from the young days when he actually topped them to the decade after where they couldn't be bested.
Thats a pretty remarkable feat for one of the best teams of all time. Especially for a 6'3 guard. Hes not out there doing it himself, but he was co-leading those teams.
And yea hes one petty ass competitor sometimes lol.
warriorschamps wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:I'm tired of this narrative. The Warriors did this to everybody.
Harden, Lebron, Lillard, Westbrook, Durant (before he joined them), AD, the Spurs.
If you were in the west, the Warriors dominated you.
CP3 gave them their toughest fights. He is 9-9 against them in the playoffs. Beat them in 2014, up 3-2 against them in 2018 before getting injured and lost in 6 games the next year.
When he was in Houston, they were even with the Warriors (with KD) regular season and playoff-wise.
This is true. Curry & the Warriors dominated everybody. CP3 was actually was much better against the Warriors than Harden & Lillard for example.
canada_dry wrote:Did...did you just call cp3 6'3?bbalnation wrote:floppymoose wrote:I just hope CP tries to lock Curry out of the gym again, or says something to him. Then I'll feel confident.
You've gotta admit the shimmy he gave Steph was cool, or at least a little entertaining/funny.
Chris has been the Warriors most consistent obstacle, from the young days when he actually topped them to the decade after where they couldn't be bested.
Thats a pretty remarkable feat for one of the best teams of all time. Especially for a 6'3 guard. Hes not out there doing it himself, but he was co-leading those teams.
And yea hes one petty ass competitor sometimes lol.
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And that shimmy brought on some bad karma. Did that in game 5 and pulled his hamstring in the 4th quarter of that game. The rest was history...bbalnation wrote:floppymoose wrote:I just hope CP tries to lock Curry out of the gym again, or says something to him. Then I'll feel confident.
You've gotta admit the shimmy he gave Steph was cool, or at least a little entertaining/funny.
Chris has been the Warriors most consistent obstacle, from the young days when he actually topped them to the decade after where they couldn't be bested.
Thats a pretty remarkable feat for one of the best teams of all time. Especially for a 6'3 guard. Hes not out there doing it himself, but he was co-leading those teams.
And yea hes one petty ass competitor sometimes lol.
