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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#761 » by emunney » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:09 pm

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I just want to see him shitkick someone.

Cheap shot but it’s a Morris so I’ll assume he had it coming. Play on.

Boogie was responding to Morris hitting the other dude with his forearm.


Markieff with another one of those can-dish-it-out-but-oh-no-the-whiplash moments. This also: not that bad. Looked like a tight end chipping a OLB.

If Cousins will lower the boom like that for Tate, what will he do for Giannis? If you're big, you gotta be big, imo.
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Post#762 » by raferfenix » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:19 pm

The Giannis / Portis tandem is playing awesome after showing some serious flashes in the finals last year.

I'm not even sure that BroLo replaces Bobby in the starting lineup when he returns.

Our problem though is that Portis at the 5 works far less well when he isn't flanked by Giannis. Middleton and Pat are proven small ball 4 options but it's just too small and too little shot blocking with Bobby at center.

PJ Tucker would have solved that problem at least since he can easily guard 4's (and smaller 5's) and rebounds against anyone.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#764 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:29 pm

emunney wrote:
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jakecronus8 wrote:Cheap shot but it’s a Morris so I’ll assume he had it coming. Play on.

Boogie was responding to Morris hitting the other dude with his forearm.


Markieff with another one of those can-dish-it-out-but-oh-no-the-whiplash moments. This also: not that bad. Looked like a tight end chipping a OLB.

If Cousins will lower the boom like that for Tate, what will he do for Giannis? If you're big, you gotta be big, imo.

I'd call it a "How dare you do what I just did" moment for Kieff, and Boogie showing that he's learned what it takes to be a true pro - one that happens to usually be the biggest guy on the court.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#765 » by sidney lanier » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:34 pm

I remember the last time the Bucks picked up an apparently washed 31-year-old center. He's half my name.

Washington Post, April 20, 1980:

Before they acquired Bob Lanier during the all-star break, the Milwaukee Bucks were considered a team of the future.With such young exciting players as Marques Johnson, Junior Bridgeman, Dave Meyers, Brian Winters and Sidney Moncrief, it seemed only a matter of time before they challenged Seattle, Los Angeles and Phoenix for supremacy in NBA's Western Conference.

The success came sooner than expected when the deal was made with Detroit for the 6-foot-11, 260-pound Lanier. The Bucks have pushed the defending NBA champion Sonics to seven games in their Western semifinal playoffs, which will end Sunday in Seattle.
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Regardless of the outcome, the Bucks have proven their legitimacy and Lanier, despite all his disappointments with the Pistons, has shown he is still a dominating force in the NBA.

"I guess I underestimated the value of having an old veteran on the team," said Buck Coach Don Nelson. "I didn't realize that until Bob got here."

Lanier has made the Bucks stable and given them a leader, the one thing they had lacked.

Lanier was traded for Kent Benson, who was not intimidating, or even effective for that matter, at either end of the floor.

"I felt I could help this squad right away," Lanier said. "You're leery at first in any new situation. I was leery because the thing you worry about is not to be a disruptive factor. A lot of times you can come to a squad and not have a lot of talent. But if your kind of talent doesn't jell with theirs, or if you come there trying be what you were someplace else -- like a top scorer, then that can have a very disruptive effect. So what I try to do is just blend in as best as possible and use the skills that I have to make Milwaukee a better team."
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#766 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:43 pm

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raferfenix wrote:So...if Boogie had played much better recently he wouldn't be available for the minimum on a non-guaranteed deal.

I have a hard time with quibbles about taking a flier on him at that price. Seems worth checking out what he can do next to Giannis and with Suki in his corner.

On the flipside, if Lopez's back is shot and we need a reliable big who can clock more than 10-15 mins per game, then it might be more of a desperation move in the wake of what could turn out to be a catastrophic decision letting Tucker walk.

I guess I don't see Tucker/Portis as a viable 5 option either. Would force Giannis to continue playing major minutes at the 5 and we would get destroyed inside for the 10 minutes he isn't out there.


Portis had only played the 5 this year, and has been awesome. The league continues to play smaller and quicker, Portis will rarely be a good fit at PF moving forward, especially in the playoffs.

The focus should be getting a worthwhile back up for Giannis.

Agreed, and it'd be nice if this acquisition target can play the Tucker role - defending the best forward and hitting open 3's.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#767 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:45 pm

sidney lanier wrote:I remember the last time the Bucks picked up an apparently washed 31-year-old center. He's half my name.

Hoping nobody says "I need another hint." :wink:

Big Bob was a huge upgrade over Kent Benson.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#768 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:52 pm

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I guess I don't see Tucker/Portis as a viable 5 option either. Would force Giannis to continue playing major minutes at the 5 and we would get destroyed inside for the 10 minutes he isn't out there.


Portis had only played the 5 this year, and has been awesome. The league continues to play smaller and quicker, Portis will rarely be a good fit at PF moving forward, especially in the playoffs.

The focus should be getting a worthwhile back up for Giannis.

Agreed, and it'd be nice if this acquisition target can play the Tucker role - defending the best forward and hitting open 3's.


Even better, if they go upgrade that role to someone who could successfully guard anyone.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#769 » by buckboy » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:42 pm

sidney lanier wrote:I remember the last time the Bucks picked up an apparently washed 31-year-old center. He's half my name.

Washington Post, April 20, 1980:

Before they acquired Bob Lanier during the all-star break, the Milwaukee Bucks were considered a team of the future.With such young exciting players as Marques Johnson, Junior Bridgeman, Dave Meyers, Brian Winters and Sidney Moncrief, it seemed only a matter of time before they challenged Seattle, Los Angeles and Phoenix for supremacy in NBA's Western Conference.

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...

Regardless of the outcome, the Bucks have proven their legitimacy and Lanier, despite all his disappointments with the Pistons, has shown he is still a dominating force in the NBA.

"I guess I underestimated the value of having an old veteran on the team," said Buck Coach Don Nelson. "I didn't realize that until Bob got here."

Lanier has made the Bucks stable and given them a leader, the one thing they had lacked.

Lanier was traded for Kent Benson, who was not intimidating, or even effective for that matter, at either end of the floor.

"I felt I could help this squad right away," Lanier said. "You're leery at first in any new situation. I was leery because the thing you worry about is not to be a disruptive factor. A lot of times you can come to a squad and not have a lot of talent. But if your kind of talent doesn't jell with theirs, or if you come there trying be what you were someplace else -- like a top scorer, then that can have a very disruptive effect. So what I try to do is just blend in as best as possible and use the skills that I have to make Milwaukee a better team."


Cool tidbit. Couple of things:

-Boogie ain't Bob Lanier, but I know you know that.

-The conference finals ended on April 20! The Bucks play their final RS game on April 10 this season. Incredible.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#770 » by Finn » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:03 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:A strong 6'4" with a 6'8" wingspan, credible 3 point shot, shifty dribble moves, and gives effort defensively. A lot to work with here, and he's already a better G League player than Robinson.

here's what the Miami newspaper wrote when he signed with them.
https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/lsu/2021/07/30/javonte-smart-miami-heat-2021-lsu/7987456002/

The guy isn't that good. Just another body in case of injury. Robinson was doing well to start with, but he went into a shooting slump and that was it. The Bucks go thru two or three of these bench warming guards every season. Nothing to get excited about.

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#771 » by BigO » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:15 pm

Finn wrote:
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DrWood wrote:here's what the Miami newspaper wrote when he signed with them.
https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/lsu/2021/07/30/javonte-smart-miami-heat-2021-lsu/7987456002/

The guy isn't that good. Just another body in case of injury. Robinson was doing well to start with, but he went into a shooting slump and that was it. The Bucks go thru two or three of these bench warming guards every season. Nothing to get excited about.

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Sorry. How's this?

The guy is really good and is well worth three more pages about him?
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Post#772 » by Finn » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:20 pm

Nah, sarcasm doesn't suit you.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#773 » by randy84 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:30 pm

Not sure what people are looking for in Boogie, but if he puts up the numbers he did last year (8pts and 6rebs in 17 mins) that is all the Bucks need at this point. That is still miles better than the 3pts and 3rebs Semi is putting up in almost 20 mins.
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Post#775 » by BigO » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:45 pm

The problem with Semi is not the points he puts up. It's his gross inefficiency. I don't want him to shoot. What he needs to do is defend and he can't do that.

The great thing about Tucker was he never looked for his shot. He had a great IQ. He's shooting more for Miami because he lost a lot of weight and is in better shape. And he is much more efficient this season.
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Post#777 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:56 pm

Would you rather have Cousins or Oladipo right now?

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

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Post#779 » by tydett » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:24 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Even better, if they go upgrade that role to someone who could successfully guard anyone.


Or even hit open 3s.
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