Chris Paul and the Warriors

[CS707]

F*ck Chris Paul. Seeing him fall short again and again is one of the small pleasures in my life.

[Mrakar]

That Rockets team was best team after Warriors in last 10 years IMO. It is sad that they had to play against probably best team in history of basketball :/
I would like to se WCF Suns vs Warriors, it would be epic. However considering injury problems for both teams its probably not going to happen even though they are now by far 2 best teams in the West.

[Flash Falcon X]

If Kawhi doesn't get injured in 2017, Warriors simply flip the switch after Game 1 and win the series in 6 games. Warriors were just cruising through the Western Conference in the Playoffs, losing Game 1 against San Antonio would have just woke them up and have them looking for vengeance the next game.

However, say the 2017 Spurs and 2018 Rockets beat the Warriors in those years, how many people are willing to claim those same Spurs and Rockets would beat LeBron's Cavs?

I ask that because the excuse for LeBron losing in 17 and 18 was because he had to play against a super team by himself. But the 2017 Spurs were better than the 2017 Warriors, right? So in that book, if the Spurs beat the Cavs, LeBron can't use the superteam excuse and his fans have to admit he lost to Kawhi.

And if a healthy 2018 Rockets is better than 2018 Warriors, then LeBron fans would have to admit he lost to CP3 and Harden, not a superteam lol.

And if you say LeBron's Cavs would beat the Spurs and Rockets, then those two teams truly aren't better than GSW then lol.

[bbalnation]

I just hope CP tries to lock Curry out of the gym again, or says something to him. Then I'll feel confident.

You've gotta admit the shimmy he gave Steph was cool, or at least a little entertaining/funny.

Chris has been the Warriors most consistent obstacle, from the young days when he actually topped them to the decade after where they couldn't be bested.

Thats a pretty remarkable feat for one of the best teams of all time. Especially for a 6'3 guard. Hes not out there doing it himself, but he was co-leading those teams.

And yea hes one petty ass competitor sometimes lol.

And that shimmy brought on some bad karma. Did that in game 5 and pulled his hamstring in the 4th quarter of that game. The rest was history...

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As a raptor fan that experienced aspects of this myself, with many others around me doing it in the extreme of clapping for KD falling: Ill say that associating injuries & the health of players with the fortune or karma of your team is behavior you may want to question?

I did. You may want to. You think that shimmy brought on some bad karma in the form of an injury? Yeesh.

[cdubbz]

I'm tired of this narrative. The Warriors did this to everybody.

Harden, Lebron, Lillard, Westbrook, Durant (before he joined them), AD, the Spurs.

If you were in the west, the Warriors dominated you.

CP3 gave them their toughest fights. He is 9-9 against them in the playoffs. Beat them in 2014, up 3-2 against them in 2018 before getting injured and lost in 6 games the next year.

When he was in Houston, they were even with the Warriors (with KD) regular season and playoff-wise.

They did it to everyone, but Chris Paul had Championship contending teams TWICE During the Warriors runs and could have very much won a Championship if it wasn't for the Warriors.

This will be CP3 3rd time being on a Finals contender so we will see how this season plays out.

[DonaldSanders]

So tired of the lazy "One Chris Paul hammy away" takes that ignore Iggy getting injured and the Warriors winning by 42 before Iggy went down.

The next time they met KD went down and what happened? CP3 couldn't get it done.

[My2CentsR]

One of the most dirtiest players I don’t feel bad for him.

Yup. And obnoxious. Who yells at the refs to point out someone's shirt isn't tucked in for a free shot? That's not "playing smart", it's just trying to find loopholes for cheap wins. But mostly just annoying.

[Edrees]

So tired of the lazy "One Chris Paul hammy away" takes that ignore Iggy getting injured and the Warriors winning by 42 before Iggy went down.

The next time they met KD went down and what happened? CP3 couldn't get it done.

The same people who say "Steph didn't get any finals MVPs" will say Missing a Finals MVP against the Rockets was not a factor in the series They simultaneously take credit away from Steph, but then they fail to give that credit to AI, saying the Warriors weren't worse without him - it's like nobody gets credit for being a Finals MVP that 2015 finals. It's asinine.

I noticed a lot of NBA fans tend to do this. They ignore very impactful injuries to non-allstars as if it's a non factor, but when it happens to their own team, they realize how impactful missing such a player is.

[slicedbread2]

So tired of the lazy "One Chris Paul hammy away" takes that ignore Iggy getting injured and the Warriors winning by 42 before Iggy went down.

The next time they met KD went down and what happened? CP3 couldn't get it done.

That's a good point though to be fair, the Rockets needed CP3 more than the Warriors needing Iggy. Don't get me wrong he was truly elite at what he did during those title runs as a Swiss army knife type of player who could do a bit of everything with his calling card being an elite team/individual defender.

The following year the Rockets got screwed over by the cheapskate owner tightwad Tillman who idiotically refused to pay Ariza and Mbah a Moute and instead of investing in the team, he chose to divest in it by forcing Morey to give up draft capital in order to gain cap relief. Seeing the Warriors break the Rockets mentally without KD was like a shadow realm banishment type of beat down that a team never recovers from and we saw Harden infamously slap CP3's hand away. It all went downhill after that.

To make matters worse it turned out the owner had leveraged his business empire and took out a $200M loan from outgoing owner Les Alexander who decided to take the Larry O'Brien trophies as collateral and had replicas made(he'll return it upon being given his money back from the loan).

There's always something about CP3 being on teams that somehow have bigger problems with ownership whether it was NO(George Shinn going broke and selling the team to the league), LAC(Sterling was a known prick and the fact David Stern allowed him to stay around for as long as he did was a joke), Houston(tightwad Tillman) or Phoenix(Sarver being a cheapskate and having a hit article showing a socially inept clown). Maybe it was karma for him grabbing a dude's nus in college.

Best thing to happen to the Warriors fan base was the IRS going after Chris Cohan. It's truly scary to think what would've happened if that didn't happen.

[Lost92Bricks]

They did it to everyone, but Chris Paul had Championship contending teams TWICE During the Warriors runs and could have very much won a Championship if it wasn't for the Warriors.

This will be CP3 3rd time being on a Finals contender so we will see how this season plays out.

The Clippers literally weren't a finals contender or contending for championships. The Warriors never stopped them from anything, the Clippers weren't good enough to even face them.

[Lost92Bricks]

There's always something about CP3 being on teams that somehow have bigger problems with ownership whether it was NO(George Shinn going broke and selling the team to the league), LAC(Sterling was a known prick and the fact David Stern allowed him to stay around for as long as he did was a joke), Houston(tightwad Tillman) or Phoenix(Sarver being a cheapskate and having a hit article showing a socially inept clown). Maybe it was karma for him grabbing a dude's nus in college.

Best thing to happen to the Warriors fan base was the IRS going after Chris Cohan. It's truly scary to think what would've happened if that didn't happen.

No it's not karma.

It's him playing on incompetent franchises his whole career. Him joining the teams and making them good is what made you guys forget how poorly they were ran.

[John Murdoch]

That 2017 Rockets team is one of my all time favs. I remember checking in on their games and most would be over by half or early 3rd because of the barrage of 3's. Probably Dantonis most impressive job as well . The balance was crazy

[DonaldSanders]

They did it to everyone, but Chris Paul had Championship contending teams TWICE During the Warriors runs and could have very much won a Championship if it wasn't for the Warriors.

This will be CP3 3rd time being on a Finals contender so we will see how this season plays out.

The Clippers literally weren't a finals contender or contending for championships. The Warriors never stopped them from anything, the Clippers weren't good enough to even face them.

The season before the Warriors won their first chip with Curry the Warriors were eliminated in the first round by... THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS!

[DroseReturnChi]

A CP3 thread that starts off with "got to kind of feel sorry for the dude."

Ya, nope haha. When it comes to basketball related stuff, he is near the bottom of the list for guys that I will ever feel sorry for. Cant stand his attitude, might be the most pompous player in the league since he came into the league, and he has been one of the dirtiest players as well.

Dont get me wrong, this isn't me saying CP3 isn't an all time great PG and a lock HOF. Not me bashing his game what so ever, but ya he is one of the players I enjoy most seeing get eliminated every year.

you feel sorry not because he isnt dirty because how stacked currys team was. rockets were brink of eliminating you know it i know it. to all the non warrior fans, cp3 was the last hope to bring salvation.

[DonaldSanders]

That's a good point though to be fair, the Rockets needed CP3 more than the Warriors needing Iggy. Don't get me wrong he was truly elite at what he did during those title runs as a Swiss army knife type of player who could do a bit of everything with his calling card being an elite team/individual defender.

The following year the Rockets got screwed over by the cheapskate owner tightwad Tillman who idiotically refused to pay Ariza and Mbah a Moute and instead of investing in the team, he chose to divest in it by forcing Morey to give up draft capital in order to gain cap relief. Seeing the Warriors break the Rockets mentally without KD was like a shadow realm banishment type of beat down that a team never recovers from and we saw Harden infamously slap CP3's hand away. It all went downhill after that.

Best thing to happen to the Warriors fan base was the IRS going after Chris Cohan. It's truly scary to think what would've happened if that didn't happen.

Yeah I get that CP3 is worth more but he missed only 2 games vs. Iggy being out 4. Reminded me of when Draymond got suspended in the finals for a game, it was a momentum reversal. If you take out a key starter it gives the other team new life as well as the benefit of that player not being on the court.

The thing about Mbah a moute is he was having a terrible series vs. the Warriors and there is no reason to think that would change. He missed as much time as Iggy that year actually but it seemed good for his team as he had 3 bad games in a row. Dude was 14th in VORP on his team for the playoffs that year and 13th in BPM.

Ariza is a good player but he's no KD. His playoff advanced stats that year also looked very similar to his replacement, Austin Rivers. It's just excuses that CP3 couldn't get it done with KD out.

Agree about Cohan, a bad owner was total hell as a fan.

[Rodwilliams]

Got to kind of feel sorry for this dude. 2014 and he had a great team while on the Clippers. THEY had just beaten the Warriors in the first round and THEY were the next big thing. Lob city.

Warriors went on to destroy them for the next three years. I mean it was complete ownage.

Then he joins Houston. Houston puts together THE team to beat the Warriors.
Fully healthy, Warriors knock them out of the playoffs.
Then CP3 and Houston looks like they are about to FINALLY beat the Warriors ...and Chris pulls a hamstring....

That brings us to tomorrow night's matchup. Will Chris Paul finally get over on the Warriors curse? Will the Warriors knock Chris Paul's team out of the West in the conference finals?

Going to be interesting to see if CP3 can finally get over on Curry and the Warriors.

You’re a joke. CP3 would be 2-0 against Warriors in the playoffs if it wasn’t for that 2018 injury.

[og15]

They did it to everyone, but Chris Paul had Championship contending teams TWICE During the Warriors runs and could have very much won a Championship if it wasn't for the Warriors.

This will be CP3 3rd time being on a Finals contender so we will see how this season plays out.

The Clippers literally weren't a finals contender or contending for championships. The Warriors never stopped them from anything, the Clippers weren't good enough to even face them.

The season before the Warriors won their first chip with Curry the Warriors were eliminated in the first round by... THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS!

Clippers just never had the wings or depth to get past enough matchups for a title run. Generally in the finals you will see one of the top 2 teams from the conference, the Clippers only once 14-15 (tied with Houston who got the 2 seed due to division champs) had a top 2 record in the West. It's just too difficult in the West to go multiple series' with a 2/3 rotation of Redick/Barnes/Crawford and no 4th player that is playable at the 2/3. That's not enough defense, there's no wing there who can slide to PG defensively like guys like Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala, Andre Roberson, Trevor Ariza, etc all were able to do. The Clippers got a versatile multi-position defender in 15-16 when they added Mbah A Moute, but they were too injured by that time, they had already gotten rid of Barnes by then, so they added another but lost one, etc, etc

[alebaba]

So tired of the lazy "One Chris Paul hammy away" takes that ignore Iggy getting injured and the Warriors winning by 42 before Iggy went down.

The next time they met KD went down and what happened? CP3 couldn't get it done.

You cant be serious, comparing Iggy to freaking Cp3, Warriors fans are delusional. Imagine having Curry, Klay, green and Kd and still bringing up Iggy. *fair weather fan alert.*

[DonaldSanders]

So tired of the lazy "One Chris Paul hammy away" takes that ignore Iggy getting injured and the Warriors winning by 42 before Iggy went down.

The next time they met KD went down and what happened? CP3 couldn't get it done.

You cant be serious, comparing Iggy to freaking Cp3, Warriors fans are delusional. imagine having Curry, Klay, green and Kd and still bringing up Iggy.

100% serious, 4 games of Iggy being lost vs. 2 games of CP3 being lost is pretty comparable. The Warriors won by 41 points before Iggy got injured and Chris Paul's + - for the series was -20. Iggy was +4.

I'm not saying Iggy necessarily out played CP3 but acting like CP3 was some kind of god in this series is a joke. That's why I'm tired of the CP3 hammy myth, CP3 was good but not great that series and losing Iggy double the amount of games is a lot more comparable than the anti-Warriors crowd will ever admit.

You do know we all saw the next season right? Where Durant was out and CP3 still lost?

The Clippers literally weren't a finals contender or contending for championships. The Warriors never stopped them from anything, the Clippers weren't good enough to even face them.

The season before the Warriors won their first chip with Curry the Warriors were eliminated in the first round by... THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS!

Clippers just never had the wings or depth to get past enough matchups for a title run. Generally in the finals you will see one of the top 2 teams from the conference, the Clippers only once 14-15 (tied with Houston who got the 2 seed due to division champs) had a top 2 record in the West. It's just too difficult in the West to go multiple series' with a 2/3 rotation of Redick/Barnes/Crawford and no 4th player that is playable at the 2/3. That's not enough defense, there's no wing there who can slide to PG defensively like guys like Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala, Andre Roberson, Trevor Ariza, etc all were able to do. The Clippers got a versatile multi-position defender in 15-16 when they added Mbah A Moute, but they were too injured by that time, they had already gotten rid of Barnes by then, so they added another but lost one, etc, etc

I don't disagree with your assessment of the Clippers, I was just pointing out to the guy that claimed "The Clippers weren't good enough to face them" that the Clippers literally did face them and won the season before the Warriors won the 1st Curry chip.

[SunsLyf3]

They did it to everyone, but Chris Paul had Championship contending teams TWICE During the Warriors runs and could have very much won a Championship if it wasn't for the Warriors.

This will be CP3 3rd time being on a Finals contender so we will see how this season plays out.

The Clippers literally weren't a finals contender or contending for championships. The Warriors never stopped them from anything, the Clippers weren't good enough to even face them.

Indeed. I loved the show lob city put on but that team was weak at SG and SF. Too flawed to make it to the finals.