Game 21 - 76ers vs Magic - Nov 29th - 7:00 pm ET

[rzzzzz]

I hope Morey can acquire a decent pg THIS year, so Maxey can go back to being a natural born scorer.

[Mik317]

meh its apart of Maxey's growth. He can get his when he is the main option....but that didn't lead to wins. So now he has to learn how and when to defer and when to attack. He missed a lot but taking those 3s off screen for example was a good look.

This is all apart of the lead guard learning curve.

Maxey had been insane...so he is due a bad stretch. Him being more comfortable with the bench is just apart of the process IMO and sadly due to COVID/Injuries, he hasn't gotten enough reps with the main unit in game.

The real issue is that the coaching staff allowed things to revert to Point Biid...which during the bulls game we went away from. Biid was attacking asap and not allowing the double to come instead of trying to QB the room. So many of our sets are too stagnant. That is on the coaching staff more than anything.

Its a marathon not a sprint tho

[eyeatoma]

this is a loss regardless

team should feel bad.

Someone take away Jo's FIFA and Tobias' books

Least Jo has an excuse. I mean he's been off all year, and then he'll have a random MVP game. I really do think the ball has something to do with it, but Covid is a bitch so he has an excuse. Maxey needs to get his head out of his ass. He has regressed in the last 3 games. Sophomore slump anyone? Kork has lost his mojo, the only one still balling is Seth.

I don’t know what people here are watching. Maxey is in the deferring role, he’s not a pg thus can’t setup Embiid/Harris it’s more like pass the parcel.

Also how much does Embiid and Harris help Maxey out? Sweet F all to me. Drummond helps Maxey because he’s a huge meat shield, plays straight up and down and there’s no deferring or pecking order going on.

Yes COVID is a b*tch but Embiid plays like this his whole damn career and Harris too for that matter there’s nothing that’s going to change that. Joel is a sub average screener/pnr operator. I’d say if you watch it closely again there’s 3 shots from Maxey that would have been in if the Big guys actually did their job protecting him and taking out the the trailer instead of having their hands out and setting soft screens looking like two big babies wanting the bottle.

Both can be selfish players. Admittance is the first step to recovery.

Open the eyes people. The ball has nothing to do with it.

This is either on Maxey for not being assertive or Doc for not giving him enough of the ball. His usage in this game was 18, and Jo's was 32. Jo is fine, but Tobi had 23. Maxey needs to be at 23 or 25. Get this, George Niang had a 27 usage right. Like what?

[eyeatoma]

meh its apart of Maxey's growth. He can get his when he is the main option....but that didn't lead to wins. So now he has to learn how and when to defer and when to attack. He missed a lot but taking those 3s off screen for example was a good look.

This is all apart of the lead guard learning curve.

Maxey had been insane...so he is due a bad stretch. Him being more comfortable with the bench is just apart of the process IMO and sadly due to COVID/Injuries, he hasn't gotten enough reps with the main unit in game.

The real issue is that the coaching staff allowed things to revert to Point Biid...which during the bulls game we went away from. Biid was attacking asap and not allowing the double to come instead of trying to QB the room. So many of our sets are too stagnant. That is on the coaching staff more than anything.

Its a marathon not a sprint tho

I agree I'm tired of point Biid. He needs to just be playing like last year. That worked really well, and I have no idea why we are going away from it. Maxey isn't Ben but he can make an entry pass, and he is doing a decent job of driving and kicking.

[DCasey91]

It’s on the coach to delineate the plays of course.
Isn’t it so Maxey has to defer because of Embiid/Harris? Is it so both don’t actually help Maxey out in protecting him as well as Drummond along with being less delineation and deferring going on? Why do you think the bench has been the main factor in wins/losses.

They probably took 12 shots in the last to pretty bad results against a good defensive but an arse offensive team, we would have lost against a playoff one.

In the playoffs if this happens then we’ll blow 10 point leads as we always do like clockwork

It’s a personnel problem. Maxey is a far better player when he has to score because he’s a scorer. Never bought into hyper Embiid centrism it’s not going to end well.

It’s like asking a mechanic to be a pilot it ain’t going to happen.

I’d trade Harris for a peanut if I could.

[eyeatoma]

It’s on the coach to delineate the plays of course.
Isn’t it so Maxey has to defer because of Embiid/Harris? Is it so both don’t actually help Maxey out in protecting him as well as Drummond along with being less delineation and deferring going on? Why do you think the bench has been the main factor in wins/losses.

They probably took 12 shots in the last to pretty bad results against a good defensive but an arse offensive team, we would have lost against a playoff one.

In the playoffs if this happens then we’ll blow 10 point leads as we always do like clockwork

It’s a personnel problem. Maxey is a far better player when he has to score because he’s a scorer. Never bought into hyper Embiid centrism it’s not going to end well.

It’s like asking a mechanic to be a pilot it ain’t going to happen.

I’d trade Harris for a peanut if I could.

Agree on trading Harris. Hyper center Embiid offense isn't great especially in the last 5 minutes off the 4th, or the last play of the game as we saw in overtime against Minnesotta and countless times through out his career. Maxey is also a scorer first, and I think they should focus on that. Hell, if Jo is going to be playing point Jo, then the least Maxey can do is score.

[DCasey91]

I think for this team to prosper make it as streamline as possible. Embiid is the 1, Maxey is the 2nd and the teams closer, that’s it everyone falls under that proviso.

Harris is moved for whatever addition by subtraction and Simmons grabs us max value if the repair work from both parties doesn’t come which is actually a mistake in my poi for both the team and Ben.

Healthy diet of DHO early find the hot hand, bench PNR with Drummond, Embiid/Ben post ups two man games with Maxey or each other as the scorer/playmaker. I wouldn’t give Embiid more than 5 shots in the last quarter. Also Milton can do the same when Maxey sits.

All three of Ben, Embiid, Harris become less effective as the game goes on

Ben/Harris transition offense goes

Embiid gas tank is shot, decision making goes, shot selection poor, turnovers up.

Morey tried to buy wins with variance but once everything becomes the mean the non sequential parts become found out.

Hyper Embiid has never worked to begin with this isn’t a game to game thing it’s historical now we have years of evidence to pour over what is right and what is wrong.

When we had Butler both Embiid and Ben had their career highs in ppg. I wonder why, all the pressure to score create is now offset.

Bigs like those two shouldn’t be asked to score create to that degree for which our teams needs it to be they are bookends.

[eyeatoma]

I think for this team to prosper make it as streamline as possible. Embiid is the 1, Maxey is the 2nd and the teams closer, that’s it everyone falls under that proviso.

Harris is moved for whatever addition by subtraction and Simmons grabs us max value if the repair work from both parties doesn’t come which is actually a mistake in my poi for both the team and Ben.

Healthy diet of DHO early find the hot hand, bench PNR with Drummond, Embiid/Ben post ups two man games with Maxey or each other as the scorer/playmaker. I wouldn’t give Embiid more than 5 shots in the last quarter. Also Milton can do the same when Maxey sits.

All three of Ben, Embiid, Harris become less effective as the game goes on

Ben/Harris transition offense goes

Embiid gas tank is shot, decision making goes, shot selection poor, turnovers up.

Morey tried to buy wins with variance but once everything becomes the mean the non sequential parts become found out.

Hyper Embiid has never worked to begin with this isn’t a game to game thing it’s historical now we have years of evidence to pour over what is right and what is wrong.

When we had Butler both Embiid and Ben had their career highs in ppg. I wonder why, all the pressure to score create is now offset.

Bigs like those two shouldn’t be asked to score create to that degree for which our teams needs it to be they are bookends.

Yup agreed.

[mjkvol]

That was one ugly ass win. The best player on the floor was Wagner, kid has a ton of moxie and absolutely no fear. This team is right back to being virtually unwatchable.

[DCasey91]

Also why gas out Embiid in two meaningless games in November? Just take the losses. I mean tanking this year through cost and benefit is in our favor.

He averages 58.8 games playoffs included in the five year span since playing that’s all you have to play with so use them wisely.

In fact Embiid should not play north of 50 games in the reg season. It’s rinse and repeat with Joel the FO hasn’t a learnt a thing tbh.

Sports is a timing exercise. Just let him have a big rest closer to the playoffs and let him play the last 3-4 games of the year to get into rhythm then go hard in the playoffs if we have a real team at the trade deadline. If we don’t then go full tank mode.

Being in the middle is stupid now.

[Skates]

With the Sixers starting lineup at full complement, before a Simmons trade, I think starting Shake at PG makes sense since his game is naturally deferential and quirkily opportunistic and allow Maxey to take full charge of the second unit where he can flat out use his skills and not end up standing in the corner like Simmons and Evan Turner before that ended up when they were deferring to all of the other guys in the lineup. They are just better fits that way as Maxey is a natural scorer who seems out of place with Joel and Tobias pounding the ball, while Drummond sets far better PnR screens for Maxey to curl off of than Jojo does.

Also at some point, Isiah Joe getting run for Furkan is going to have to become a thing until Furkan gets his shooting right. Kork has had slumps before and is naturally streaky, but his shots right now really aren't even close to going in, it is like he needs a new prescription for his contacts the shots are that wild and off center.

[mjkvol]

Also why gas out Embiid in two meaningless games in November? Just take the losses. I mean tanking this year through cost and benefit is in our favor.

He averages 58.8 games playoffs included in the five year span since playing that’s all you have to play with so use them wisely.

In fact Embiid should not play north of 50 games in the reg season. It’s rinse and repeat with Joel the FO hasn’t a learnt a thing tbh.

Sports is a timing exercise. Just let him have a big rest closer to the playoffs and let him play the last 3-4 games of the year to get into rhythm then go hard in the playoffs if we have a real team at the trade deadline. If we don’t then go full tank mode.

Being in the middle is stupid now.

This x 1000. And playing him 45 minutes in an early regular season game against Minnesota coming off a few weeks out is coaching malpractice.

[GoSixersBro]

Also why gas out Embiid in two meaningless games in November? Just take the losses. I mean tanking this year through cost and benefit is in our favor.

He averages 58.8 games playoffs included in the five year span since playing that’s all you have to play with so use them wisely.

In fact Embiid should not play north of 50 games in the reg season. It’s rinse and repeat with Joel the FO hasn’t a learnt a thing tbh.

Sports is a timing exercise. Just let him have a big rest closer to the playoffs and let him play the last 3-4 games of the year to get into rhythm then go hard in the playoffs if we have a real team at the trade deadline. If we don’t then go full tank mode.

Being in the middle is stupid now.

Love this post. Also nailed it on the timing comment. Ask the 2016 Warriors. Chasing the infamous Bulls probably did them no favors throughout the postseason.

[76ciology]

With the Sixers starting lineup at full complement, before a Simmons trade, I think starting Shake at PG makes sense since his game is naturally deferential and quirkily opportunistic and allow Maxey to take full charge of the second unit where he can flat out use his skills and not end up standing in the corner like Simmons and Evan Turner before that ended up when they were deferring to all of the other guys in the lineup. They are just better fits that way as Maxey is a natural scorer who seems out of place with Joel and Tobias pounding the ball, while Drummond sets far better PnR screens for Maxey to curl off of than Jojo does.

Also at some point, Isiah Joe getting run for Furkan is going to have to become a thing until Furkan gets his shooting right. Kork has had slumps before and is naturally streaky, but his shots right now really aren't even close to going in, it is like he needs a new prescription for his contacts the shots are that wild and off center.

Yes. Imagine people thinking Shake starting and Maxey off the bench was a terrible idea.

I agree with everything you post including letting IJ play more than korky, who’s clearly struggling

[Mik317]

its a terrible idea because Shake sucks lol.

Having Maxey learn on the fly and take his lumps is better for him longterm than him basically being pigeon holed in as a spark plug off the bench. Lets see if he can go out of his comfort zone. Same goes for Biid. He sets some of the woat screens ever lol. No more allowing dudes to stay comfy IMO. I will whine about losses but its for the best

[DCasey91]

Also why gas out Embiid in two meaningless games in November? Just take the losses. I mean tanking this year through cost and benefit is in our favor.

He averages 58.8 games playoffs included in the five year span since playing that’s all you have to play with so use them wisely.

In fact Embiid should not play north of 50 games in the reg season. It’s rinse and repeat with Joel the FO hasn’t a learnt a thing tbh.

Sports is a timing exercise. Just let him have a big rest closer to the playoffs and let him play the last 3-4 games of the year to get into rhythm then go hard in the playoffs if we have a real team at the trade deadline. If we don’t then go full tank mode.

Being in the middle is stupid now.

Love this post. Also nailed it on the timing comment. Ask the 2016 Warriors. Chasing the infamous Bulls probably did them no favors throughout the postseason.

Yep seen it in other sports where teams that are in the top 5 or so favorites for the title just go way too hard too early, and for what. Depending on the format should depend how you would see say time the peak.

There’s 82 games in the reg so plenty of time to take it easy. I do believe it’s at least 20 games too long.

Bucks last year took the foot of the pedal and it worked out better.

[Mik317]

sadly thanks to that COVID outbreak...we can't afford to do so. The East is also pretty packed right now...so the Bucks couldn't have coasted this season like they could last year in which maybe 5 teams were actually good.

[KramerDSP]

Personally, I think Embiid is the reason they aren’t load managing him that much. He desperately wants to be MVP and will never get it with 50 games played. Convince Embiid that FMVP > MVP, and see if he is willing to be load managed. The other obstacle is he has owned the Philly warrior mentality and will likely feel like he is letting the fans down by not playing every game he possibly can.