Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants)

[celtics543]

Ex I have a medical question about this new variant. Would best case scenario be if Omicron is very contagious but only presents fairly mild symptoms? That way it kind of chokes out Delta and other more severe variants and infects lots of people, which will build up immunity to potential more severe variants? Seems like this would be the best case scenario and turn the pandemic into an endemic.

I like to think I'm pretty well science versed but my degree is in chemistry not any type of biology or endocrinology. I am but a lowly high school physics teacher ha!

[ddb]

How did the Omicron variant get into Australia if the unvaxxed can't leave or enter? The narratives keep falling apart left and right yet so many continue to follow right along. This will go on forever at this rate.

[ballup]

How did the Omicron variant get into Australia if the unvaxxed can't leave or enter? The narratives keep falling apart left and right yet so many continue to follow right along. This will go on forever at this rate.

Your boldness in being wrong continues.

The omicron variant was already spreading before it was discovered. That's standard in infectious diseases.

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[Andrew McCeltic]

I'll continue to live my normal life regardless of what marketing campaign/scare tactics are attempted. More and more people are awakening to what this has always been about.

you do that.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. In our ICU (minneapolis/st.paul area) we keep track of demographics. Of our last 100+ covid patients >85% are unvaccinated.

It’s been a double edged sword for me; because of the unvaccinated on the one hand i was able to write a check for my new car. On the otherhand i’ve had to give back a lot of my vacation last year due to the overflowing ICU census, and my burn-out meter is starting to fill.

Are you sure none of those stats consist of people recently vaccinated within 14 days and end up in the ICU as an "unvaccinated" person? because a lot of vaccine injuries are being considered "unvaccinated" to help the narrative and to hide the fact that there are a **** ton of vaccine injuries.

I was in the hot tub with my wife the other night shortly after watching another episode of Dopesick.....If you haven't already watched it, it's a show about the oxycontin/opioid pandemic. Anyway, while in there we easily listed off around 20 people we knew through the years in some capacity that has gone on to die from opioid addiction. Very sad. At the same time we tried and tried and tried but couldn't think of a single person we know that has died from covid. Not one. Not a friend of a friend. Not a relative. Not a neighbor. Not anyone from our kids youth sports teams...not a single person we knew from town. Zero.
The only person I could even think of was a guy I've never met, but my contractor knows who died WITH covid. But he was also extremely overweight, old, had diabetes, and took horrible care of himself. And he was vaccinated.

Aren’t you the one who decided the vaccine was bad because you knew one person who got it and then had an extra long period or something

Merry Christmas, you win a Nobel Prize

[SuperDeluxe]

How did the Omicron variant get into Australia if the unvaxxed can't leave or enter? The narratives keep falling apart left and right yet so many continue to follow right along. This will go on forever at this rate.

Your boldness in being wrong continues.

The omicron variant was already spreading before it was discovered. That's standard in infectious diseases.

Not only that: NO ONE, anywhere, ever, said that the vaccines were 100% effective against any variant, let alone one that has just been identified.

The amount of disinformation that ddb spreads from his hot tub is disgraceful.

[ddb]

How did the Omicron variant get into Australia if the unvaxxed can't leave or enter? The narratives keep falling apart left and right yet so many continue to follow right along. This will go on forever at this rate.

Your boldness in being wrong continues.

The omicron variant was already spreading before it was discovered. That's standard in infectious diseases.

Not only that: NO ONE, anywhere, ever, said that the vaccines were 100% effective against any variant, let alone one that has just been identified.

The amount of disinformation that ddb spreads from his hot tub is disgraceful.

Your vaccine doesn't do ****.

[SuperDeluxe]

Your boldness in being wrong continues.

The omicron variant was already spreading before it was discovered. That's standard in infectious diseases.

Not only that: NO ONE, anywhere, ever, said that the vaccines were 100% effective against any variant, let alone one that has just been identified.

The amount of disinformation that ddb spreads from his hot tub is disgraceful.

Your vaccine doesn't do ****.

Says the Hot Tub Scientist.

[exculpatory]

Not only that: NO ONE, anywhere, ever, said that the vaccines were 100% effective against any variant, let alone one that has just been identified.

The amount of disinformation that ddb spreads from his hot tub is disgraceful.

Your vaccine doesn't do ****.

Says the Hot Tub Scientist.

SD, please consider not responding to this despicable, dumber than rocks, mother **** moron. When you respond, I see the latest dangerous, willfully ignorant disinformation this dip **** has written.

I do not wish ANYONE illness or harm (even this sack of ****), but, as our critical care doc, Mr. Loggins (who watches mostly the unvaccinated die in his ICU every single mother **** day) posted recently, I can envision him begging for the vaccine too late when he or someone close to him is about to be intubated.

Now I must run off - because my weekly check from Pfizer AND Moderna is in my mail box.

And then, rather than reading more of the best peer reviewed Covid literature in the world, I think I will go sit in a hot tub with some random vax & mask denying geniuses so I can really understand what is going on.

And, DDB, I used to enjoy your insightful basketball posts, but I now refuse to read them.
And I would never want to be located within 100 miles or you - let alone have a beer & talk Celtics with you.
You are a disgrace.

[SuperDeluxe]

Your vaccine doesn't do ****.

Says the Hot Tub Scientist.

SD, please consider not responding to this despicable, dumber than rocks, mother **** moron. When you respond, I see the latest dangerous, willfully ignorant disinformation this dip **** has written.

I do not wish ANYONE illness or harm (even this sack of ****), but, as our critical care doc, Mr. Loggins (who watches mostly the unvaccinated die in his ICU every single mother **** day) posted recently, I can envision him begging for the vaccine too late when he or someone close to him is about to be intubated.

Now I must run off - because my weekly check from Pfizer AND Moderna is in my mail box.

No need to attack him. What if he gets offended and decides not to share his insider info on RealGM anymore?

[ddb]

Says the Hot Tub Scientist.

SD, please consider not responding to this despicable, dumber than rocks, mother **** moron. When you respond, I see the latest dangerous, willfully ignorant disinformation this dip **** has written.

I do not wish ANYONE illness or harm (even this sack of ****), but, as our critical care doc, Mr. Loggins (who watches mostly the unvaccinated die in his ICU every single mother **** day) posted recently, I can envision him begging for the vaccine too late when he or someone close to him is about to be intubated.

Now I must run off - because my weekly check from Pfizer AND Moderna is in my mail box.

No need to attack him. What if he gets offended and decides not to share his insider info on RealGM anymore?

you already know I'm well removed from my days of working in the league. so, yes..naturally less connected as I used to be. however, I could pick up a my cell phone a call many outlets still informed. I just don't anymore because it's such an incredibly saturated market nowadays. Not to mention twitter and other social media channels have completely transformed the way insider scoop is transmitted.
just not worth my time anymore.
also, a lot of the players I know are now ex players. lol. speaks to age as well I suppose

[exculpatory]

Ex I have a medical question about this new variant. Would best case scenario be if Omicron is very contagious but only presents fairly mild symptoms? That way it kind of chokes out Delta and other more severe variants and infects lots of people, which will build up immunity to potential more severe variants? Seems like this would be the best case scenario and turn the pandemic into an endemic.

I like to think I'm pretty well science versed but my degree is in chemistry not any type of biology or endocrinology. I am but a lowly high school physics teacher ha!

If Omicron turns out to be more transmissible than Delta (even if it is not more inherently virulent), it still will result in a bad outcome. It will spread like wildfire - especially amongst the 50 million morons >18 in the USA not vaccinated & not masking. Transmission begets replication begets more mutations begets worse variants. And that is assuming that our current vaccines still provide a substantial degree of protection VS Omicron. If not, there will be more breakthrough infections.
If it turns out to be MUCH less virulent than Delta (very doubtful), you pose an interesting hypothesis.
In a few weeks, we will know much more.

PS When I was pre-med, I majored in Chemistry & got A+ in Organic Chemistry - which I have totally forgotten. Biology was easy for me. Physics was by far the most difficult science course for me. I respect what you do!

[ddb]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFdZU0qXoAIRccg?format=jpg&name=medium

this made me chuckle. It's almost as if the most vaccinated states are the most highly infected. Hmmmm. Almost as if the vaccine is spreading the virus.

"misinformation"....you didn't pull this from the corrupt Harvard & John's Hopkins medical boards! Blah blah blah.

buddy I live it. I see it everyday. Normal life. A state free and healthy. Only areas that complain about it in Florida are the liberals areas such as Miami, Orlando....

[Ed Pinkney]

How did the Omicron variant get into Australia if the unvaxxed can't leave or enter? The narratives keep falling apart left and right yet so many continue to follow right along. This will go on forever at this rate.

The handful of confirmed Omicron cases here are from people who just returned from South Africa, where the variant emerged. What narrative is falling apart exactly?

[ddb]

Take the jab and you will be fine. Just the two jabs and you are golden. You know what. You may need the booster too. We forgot to mention that we intend on you taking shots over and over forever. And you will be pot committed so when we blame everything on unvaccinated people you will believe us. There will be breakthrough cases. All we need to do is Segregate and blame those who aren’t complying. The vaccinated even if they doubt the process will continue to follow. And we will make it difficult for unvaccinated people so that more will comply. We will tell everyone to blame the science even though the bull we have been spewing makes little to zero sense. All we need to do is say it’s science.
Variants upon variants. Easy to manipulate death celts throughout this to make it seem this is a serious killer even though for the majority of the population you will most definitely die from something else. Maybe even the jab itself.
Cases you ask? Easy. Let’s mass distribute faulty tests that produce false positives regularly. Easy to fear monger when there are cases. I mean most people don’t realize that based on seasons and other elements there is already 2 virus spikes per year. This time it’ll just be covid though. We will brand everything as covid. We will give a little leash then when we need to create more fear and gain more control we can pull them right back in like little zombie robots.

Wake up you idiots

[Feed Your Head]

[Bad-Thoma]

[SuperDeluxe]

[celtics543]

Ex I have a medical question about this new variant. Would best case scenario be if Omicron is very contagious but only presents fairly mild symptoms? That way it kind of chokes out Delta and other more severe variants and infects lots of people, which will build up immunity to potential more severe variants? Seems like this would be the best case scenario and turn the pandemic into an endemic.

I like to think I'm pretty well science versed but my degree is in chemistry not any type of biology or endocrinology. I am but a lowly high school physics teacher ha!

If Omicron turns out to be more transmissible than Delta (even if it is not more inherently virulent), it still will result in a bad outcome. It will spread like wildfire - especially amongst the 50 million morons >18 in the USA not vaccinated & not masking. Transmission begets replication begets more mutations begets worse variants. And that is assuming that our current vaccines still provide a substantial degree of protection VS Omicron. If not, there will be more breakthrough infections.
If it turns out to be MUCH less virulent than Delta (very doubtful), you pose an interesting hypothesis.
In a few weeks, we will know much more.

PS When I was pre-med, I majored in Chemistry & got A+ in Organic Chemistry - which I have totally forgotten. Biology was easy for me. Physics was by far the most difficult science course for me. I respect what you do!

A+ in organic chemistry is super impressive, that was the hardest class I've ever taken. Working on my PhD now but in Leadership and not any of the sciences. Thanks for answering my question, appreciate all the insight you've given in this thread and of course the Paul Pierce love since forever.

[celtics543]

Take the jab and you will be fine. Just the two jabs and you are golden. You know what. You may need the booster too. We forgot to mention that we intend on you taking shots over and over forever. And you will be pot committed so when we blame everything on unvaccinated people you will believe us. There will be breakthrough cases. All we need to do is Segregate and blame those who aren’t complying. The vaccinated even if they doubt the process will continue to follow. And we will make it difficult for unvaccinated people so that more will comply. We will tell everyone to blame the science even though the bull we have been spewing makes little to zero sense. All we need to do is say it’s science.
Variants upon variants. Easy to manipulate death celts throughout this to make it seem this is a serious killer even though for the majority of the population you will most definitely die from something else. Maybe even the jab itself.
Cases you ask? Easy. Let’s mass distribute faulty tests that produce false positives regularly. Easy to fear monger when there are cases. I mean most people don’t realize that based on seasons and other elements there is already 2 virus spikes per year. This time it’ll just be covid though. We will brand everything as covid. We will give a little leash then when we need to create more fear and gain more control we can pull them right back in like little zombie robots.

Wake up you idiots

So what's the end game? What is gained by getting people to get vaccines? What are they creating fear for? Former president Trump has been vaccinated as has current president Biden so it feels like the vaccine shouldn't be political but somehow it is. I just don't get what you think the end game is supposed to be? Up in Maine basically everything is open and mask wearing is up to the person everywhere except at school where kids and faculty have to mask. What I know is that I get several colds a year during a normal year and since we started masking I haven't gotten a single cold so it clearly works on some level.

I'm sure you have a reason for believing what you do and I'm not even going to say it's crazy or impossible because if life (and KG) has taught us anything it's that anything is possible.

My concern though is that for what you're saying to be true it would require the cooperation of so many people that it would be impossible. The Kennedy assassination being a conspiracy really only requires the cooperation of a few people. Watergate only took a few people being quiet to cover up for a while. A worldwide COVID conspiracy would require the cooperation of EVERY SINGLE country in the world, every doctor, every scientist, and every politician. Some experts have disagreed on best practices of dealing with it but not many have denied that variants exist or that it's killed a large number of people.

[MagicBagley18]

Take the jab and you will be fine. Just the two jabs and you are golden. You know what. You may need the booster too. We forgot to mention that we intend on you taking shots over and over forever. And you will be pot committed so when we blame everything on unvaccinated people you will believe us. There will be breakthrough cases. All we need to do is Segregate and blame those who aren’t complying. The vaccinated even if they doubt the process will continue to follow. And we will make it difficult for unvaccinated people so that more will comply. We will tell everyone to blame the science even though the bull we have been spewing makes little to zero sense. All we need to do is say it’s science.
Variants upon variants. Easy to manipulate death celts throughout this to make it seem this is a serious killer even though for the majority of the population you will most definitely die from something else. Maybe even the jab itself.
Cases you ask? Easy. Let’s mass distribute faulty tests that produce false positives regularly. Easy to fear monger when there are cases. I mean most people don’t realize that based on seasons and other elements there is already 2 virus spikes per year. This time it’ll just be covid though. We will brand everything as covid. We will give a little leash then when we need to create more fear and gain more control we can pull them right back in like little zombie robots.

Wake up you idiots

Oooooof this post sucks.....never thought I’d say this but please go back to making up insider news and bullshitting like you have scoops and are informed. you may have been full of **** when you did that but it was still better than this.