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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1001 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:50 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Big shoe just dropped

Mark Meadows is complying with the subpoena and has turned over documents to the Jan. 6th Committee and will appear. Schiff said they will determine if he remains in compliance as they go along so they are turning the screws tighter

Meadows was the conductor from the WH. He knows almost everything connected to plotting the insurrection. He’s in deep waters now, especially since he is also likely to be indicted by the GA Grand Jury for his other role in election tampering there.

It’s getting very real for the Orange Tumor


Eventually. Expect it to be a delaying tactic for a few weeks though:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/11/30/three-things-a-three-ring-circus/
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1002 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:04 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Big shoe just dropped

Mark Meadows is complying with the subpoena and has turned over documents to the Jan. 6th Committee and will appear. Schiff said they will determine if he remains in compliance as they go along so they are turning the screws tighter

Meadows was the conductor from the WH. He knows almost everything connected to plotting the insurrection. He’s in deep waters now, especially since he is also likely to be indicted by the GA Grand Jury for his other role in election tampering there.

It’s getting very real for the Orange Tumor


Eventually. Expect it to be a delaying tactic for a few weeks though:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/11/30/three-things-a-three-ring-circus/


Time is not on their side any longer. That Meadows is not trying to hide behind these flimsy executive privilege excuses is the real tell now, especially since they are now preparing a criminal referral to the DOJ for Clark’s arrest after he attempted to get away with that BS by showing up and then stonewalling them.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1003 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:09 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Big shoe just dropped

Mark Meadows is complying with the subpoena and has turned over documents to the Jan. 6th Committee and will appear. Schiff said they will determine if he remains in compliance as they go along so they are turning the screws tighter

Meadows was the conductor from the WH. He knows almost everything connected to plotting the insurrection. He’s in deep waters now, especially since he is also likely to be indicted by the GA Grand Jury for his other role in election tampering there.

It’s getting very real for the Orange Tumor


Eventually. Expect it to be a delaying tactic for a few weeks though:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/11/30/three-things-a-three-ring-circus/


Time is not on their side any longer. That Meadows is not trying to hide behind these flimsy executive privilege excuses is the real tell now, especially since they are now preparing a criminal referral to the DOJ for Clark’s arrest after he attempted to get away with that BS by showing up and then stonewalling them.


Read the link. He'll delay for a while. Eventually he can't, but I'd expect another month before he begins to provide real information to that committee.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1004 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:25 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Eventually. Expect it to be a delaying tactic for a few weeks though:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/11/30/three-things-a-three-ring-circus/


Time is not on their side any longer. That Meadows is not trying to hide behind these flimsy executive privilege excuses is the real tell now, especially since they are now preparing a criminal referral to the DOJ for Clark’s arrest after he attempted to get away with that BS by showing up and then stonewalling them.


Read the link. He'll delay for a while. Eventually he can't, but I'd expect another month before he begins to provide real information to that committee.


I did. That’s why I responded in kind. It’s a delaying tactic that will not bear fruit in the end. They are going to get their hands on the archives and this will then officially become the worst presidential scandal in American history. That’s why Meadows got his foot in the door now. He knows what is coming because he was there.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1005 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:36 pm

I got my Pfizer booster shot yesterday afternoon. At around 11-12 pm it hit me hard. Severe chills and a little delirium. Once my body warmed up it was just the worst night’s I’ve had in a long time. It enhanced the lower back pain where I have arthritis to point that I could barely toss over to the other side without moaning out loud in pain. Cold sweats too. These were all different symptoms compare to my fist two shots.

But I feel better now. Tired but back pain and delirium are gone.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1006 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:47 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:I got my Pfizer booster shot yesterday afternoon. At around 11-12 pm it hit me hard. Severe chills and a little delirium. Once my body warmed up it was just the worst night’s I’ve had in a long time. It enhanced the lower back pain where I have arthritis to point that I could barely toss over to the other side without moaning out loud in pain. Cold sweats too. These were all different symptoms compare to my fist two shots.

But I feel better now. Tired but back pain and delirium are gone.


but now you're ready for Omicron that no-good MF
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1007 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:50 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I got my Pfizer booster shot yesterday afternoon. At around 11-12 pm it hit me hard. Severe chills and a little delirium. Once my body warmed up it was just the worst night’s I’ve had in a long time. It enhanced the lower back pain where I have arthritis to point that I could barely toss over to the other side without moaning out loud in pain. Cold sweats too. These were all different symptoms compare to my fist two shots.

But I feel better now. Tired but back pain and delirium are gone.


but now you're ready for Omicron that no-good MF


Right. It’s worth it.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1008 » by KnixtapeH20 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:56 pm

Yall gona turn into robots in 3 years :D :lol:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1009 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:08 am

So omicron was in the Netherlands before South Africa according to this article

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/omicron-detected-in-netherlands-before-south-africa-alert_n_61a6287de4b0451e550cb8be
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1010 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:19 am

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid

Is the COVID-19 booster effective against Omicron?

Scientists do not yet know whether vaccines will continue to protect people from Omicron. The variant contains many mutations that suggest the shots may be less effective against Omicron than against other variants, though evidence to support those fears has yet to be established.


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Moderna CEO predicts vaccines will be less effective against omicron variant

JOSEPH WILKINSON

November 30 at 3:59 PM ET


Hard data is still weeks away, but Moderna’s CEO is already expecting vaccines to struggle with the omicron variant of COVID.
“All the scientists I’ve talked to...are like, ‘This is not going to be good,’” Stéphane Bancel told the Financial Times in an interview published Tuesday.
It’s still unclear whether the omicron variant, first discovered in South Africa, will evade vaccines and/or spread more rapidly than the delta variant, but the number of mutations has experts worried.
“I think it’s going to be a material drop (in effectiveness),” Bancel told the publication. “I just don’t know how much because we need to wait for the data.”


Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1011 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:06 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Yall gona turn into robots in 3 years :D :lol:


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Post#1012 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:12 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid

Is the COVID-19 booster effective against Omicron?

Scientists do not yet know whether vaccines will continue to protect people from Omicron. The variant contains many mutations that suggest the shots may be less effective against Omicron than against other variants, though evidence to support those fears has yet to be established.


NY Daily News

Moderna CEO predicts vaccines will be less effective against omicron variant

JOSEPH WILKINSON

November 30 at 3:59 PM ET


Hard data is still weeks away, but Moderna’s CEO is already expecting vaccines to struggle with the omicron variant of COVID.
“All the scientists I’ve talked to...are like, ‘This is not going to be good,’” Stéphane Bancel told the Financial Times in an interview published Tuesday.
It’s still unclear whether the omicron variant, first discovered in South Africa, will evade vaccines and/or spread more rapidly than the delta variant, but the number of mutations has experts worried.
“I think it’s going to be a material drop (in effectiveness),” Bancel told the publication. “I just don’t know how much because we need to wait for the data.”


Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978


This morning at my cafe I couldn't find a seat that was at least 12 feet from anyone else where the ventilation was good so I'm sitting outside right now having my coffee. It's 55 degrees which is cold weather for Florida, but with a flannel shirt its like being on a picnic.

NOBODY was masked up inside and generally the percentage of masked up people here rarely exceeds 25% of the occupants. Florida is going to be a sitting duck.

I'm not taking any chances with this, because with 15X in the protein spike mutations, this will probably be way more contagious and possibly deadlier.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1013 » by KnixtapeH20 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:28 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
KnixtapeH20 wrote:Yall gona turn into robots in 3 years :D :lol:


ATTENTION VAX BORG:

Assimilate KnixtapeH20

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Assimilate KnixtapeH20 now

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1014 » by nedleeds » Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:54 pm

NYC going to destroy it's economy again over an natural variation. We've got about 50 more variations to go as it burns into mankind like every other endemic flu we've had.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1015 » by j4remi » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:12 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid

Is the COVID-19 booster effective against Omicron?

Scientists do not yet know whether vaccines will continue to protect people from Omicron. The variant contains many mutations that suggest the shots may be less effective against Omicron than against other variants, though evidence to support those fears has yet to be established.


NY Daily News

Moderna CEO predicts vaccines will be less effective against omicron variant

JOSEPH WILKINSON

November 30 at 3:59 PM ET


Hard data is still weeks away, but Moderna’s CEO is already expecting vaccines to struggle with the omicron variant of COVID.
“All the scientists I’ve talked to...are like, ‘This is not going to be good,’” Stéphane Bancel told the Financial Times in an interview published Tuesday.
It’s still unclear whether the omicron variant, first discovered in South Africa, will evade vaccines and/or spread more rapidly than the delta variant, but the number of mutations has experts worried.
“I think it’s going to be a material drop (in effectiveness),” Bancel told the publication. “I just don’t know how much because we need to wait for the data.”


Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978


I'm pretty sure I saw the NIH director expressing some confidence that the vaccines will still have good efficacy, but everyone's just speculating right now. I've seen some heads treat Omicron like it's gonna be even more deadly, but others I turn to have been implying that it's likely to be the opposite. A more infectious but less fatal version of the virus...and I'd guess that helps out vaccine efficacy data since we generally focus on hospitalization and fatality numbers there...but I haven't done any deep dives on this ish since it'll prolly be a couple weeks before any real clarity is established anyway.
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Post#1016 » by Kampuchea » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:38 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:I got my Pfizer booster shot yesterday afternoon. At around 11-12 pm it hit me hard. Severe chills and a little delirium. Once my body warmed up it was just the worst night’s I’ve had in a long time. It enhanced the lower back pain where I have arthritis to point that I could barely toss over to the other side without moaning out loud in pain. Cold sweats too. These were all different symptoms compare to my fist two shots.

But I feel better now. Tired but back pain and delirium are gone.


I’m really dreading the booster. I felt pretty bad after second dose - I was wearing winter jacket and hat even though I was in my house.

I also feel like being athletic can make your arm more susceptible to the pain since the shot is going into more muscle than fat, or maybe I’m just a baby.

I’m due on Dec 11. My son gets second dose this weekend.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1017 » by Kampuchea » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:41 pm

j4remi wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid

Is the COVID-19 booster effective against Omicron?

Scientists do not yet know whether vaccines will continue to protect people from Omicron. The variant contains many mutations that suggest the shots may be less effective against Omicron than against other variants, though evidence to support those fears has yet to be established.


NY Daily News

Moderna CEO predicts vaccines will be less effective against omicron variant

JOSEPH WILKINSON

November 30 at 3:59 PM ET


Hard data is still weeks away, but Moderna’s CEO is already expecting vaccines to struggle with the omicron variant of COVID.
“All the scientists I’ve talked to...are like, ‘This is not going to be good,’” Stéphane Bancel told the Financial Times in an interview published Tuesday.
It’s still unclear whether the omicron variant, first discovered in South Africa, will evade vaccines and/or spread more rapidly than the delta variant, but the number of mutations has experts worried.
“I think it’s going to be a material drop (in effectiveness),” Bancel told the publication. “I just don’t know how much because we need to wait for the data.”


Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978


I'm pretty sure I saw the NIH director expressing some confidence that the vaccines will still have good efficacy, but everyone's just speculating right now. I've seen some heads treat Omicron like it's gonna be even more deadly, but others I turn to have been implying that it's likely to be the opposite. A more infectious but less fatal version of the virus...and I'd guess that helps out vaccine efficacy data since we generally focus on hospitalization and fatality numbers there...but I haven't done any deep dives on this ish since it'll prolly be a couple weeks before any real clarity is established anyway.



I’ve seen promising reports from overseas about the vaccine and the new variant, however, they disclaim for sample size. As those cases inevitably skyrocket in the coming days we will have our answer.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1018 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:02 pm

j4remi wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid

Is the COVID-19 booster effective against Omicron?

Scientists do not yet know whether vaccines will continue to protect people from Omicron. The variant contains many mutations that suggest the shots may be less effective against Omicron than against other variants, though evidence to support those fears has yet to be established.


NY Daily News

Moderna CEO predicts vaccines will be less effective against omicron variant

JOSEPH WILKINSON

November 30 at 3:59 PM ET


Hard data is still weeks away, but Moderna’s CEO is already expecting vaccines to struggle with the omicron variant of COVID.
“All the scientists I’ve talked to...are like, ‘This is not going to be good,’” Stéphane Bancel told the Financial Times in an interview published Tuesday.
It’s still unclear whether the omicron variant, first discovered in South Africa, will evade vaccines and/or spread more rapidly than the delta variant, but the number of mutations has experts worried.
“I think it’s going to be a material drop (in effectiveness),” Bancel told the publication. “I just don’t know how much because we need to wait for the data.”


Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978


I'm pretty sure I saw the NIH director expressing some confidence that the vaccines will still have good efficacy, but everyone's just speculating right now. I've seen some heads treat Omicron like it's gonna be even more deadly, but others I turn to have been implying that it's likely to be the opposite. A more infectious but less fatal version of the virus...and I'd guess that helps out vaccine efficacy data since we generally focus on hospitalization and fatality numbers there...but I haven't done any deep dives on this ish since it'll prolly be a couple weeks before any real clarity is established anyway.


Yes, in two weeks we'll have a more definite picture. And I've also culled some cursory information about how this variant could be less dangerous. That's why I was surprised to see the Moderna CEO which uses a similar/but different delivery system in order to activate the immune system, come out so soon.

Is there a Vegas bet on this? :lol:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1019 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:05 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I got my Pfizer booster shot yesterday afternoon. At around 11-12 pm it hit me hard. Severe chills and a little delirium. Once my body warmed up it was just the worst night’s I’ve had in a long time. It enhanced the lower back pain where I have arthritis to point that I could barely toss over to the other side without moaning out loud in pain. Cold sweats too. These were all different symptoms compare to my fist two shots.

But I feel better now. Tired but back pain and delirium are gone.


I’m really dreading the booster. I felt pretty bad after second dose - I was wearing winter jacket and hat even though I was in my house.

I also feel like being athletic can make your arm more susceptible to the pain since the shot is going into more muscle than fat, or maybe I’m just a baby.

I’m due on Dec 11. My son gets second dose this weekend.


I felt all better after 24 hours. I also did some reading up on this and the consensus is that your reaction to the booster should be less drastic that the second shot. For some reason, it hit me like a ton of bricks and then lifted pretty quickly.

Good luck to you and your family.
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Post#1020 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:08 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid

Is the COVID-19 booster effective against Omicron?

Scientists do not yet know whether vaccines will continue to protect people from Omicron. The variant contains many mutations that suggest the shots may be less effective against Omicron than against other variants, though evidence to support those fears has yet to be established.


NY Daily News

Moderna CEO predicts vaccines will be less effective against omicron variant

JOSEPH WILKINSON

November 30 at 3:59 PM ET


Hard data is still weeks away, but Moderna’s CEO is already expecting vaccines to struggle with the omicron variant of COVID.
“All the scientists I’ve talked to...are like, ‘This is not going to be good,’” Stéphane Bancel told the Financial Times in an interview published Tuesday.
It’s still unclear whether the omicron variant, first discovered in South Africa, will evade vaccines and/or spread more rapidly than the delta variant, but the number of mutations has experts worried.
“I think it’s going to be a material drop (in effectiveness),” Bancel told the publication. “I just don’t know how much because we need to wait for the data.”


Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978


This morning at my cafe I couldn't find a seat that was at least 12 feet from anyone else where the ventilation was good so I'm sitting outside right now having my coffee. It's 55 degrees which is cold weather for Florida, but with a flannel shirt its like being on a picnic.

NOBODY was masked up inside and generally the percentage of masked up people here rarely exceeds 25% of the occupants. Florida is going to be a sitting duck.

I'm not taking any chances with this, because with 15X in the protein spike mutations, this will probably be way more contagious and possibly deadlier.


That sucks. I guess that there was no signage posted saying that you needed to be vaccinated.

I heard that NYC is 90% vaccinated. They said it's because you can get into any business establishment without proving that you've been vaccinated.
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