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Tank World Order (6.0)

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At 9-12 where do you stand?

Tank World Order: Hope the team continues its downward trajectory so that they can add another top lottery pick talent to the core of Barnes and OG?
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Team Mediocre: Try and win at all costs this season. Playoff experience is valuable for the young players on our team. Making the playoffs, even if the play-in helps preserve our winning culture.
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18%
Team Neutral: Have not decided what direction I want the team to head. Waiting until later in the season to decide.
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29%
 
Total votes: 119

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Post#141 » by Pooh_Jeter » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:00 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Wait wait...I didn't think Scoot was eligible?

What's changed?

Henderson has finished all coursework and will graduate high school a year early next week, with graduation a prerequisite for joining the G League Ignite. Because he will not turn 19 until 2023, Henderson will not be eligible for the 2022 NBA draft and is committing to spend two years with the Ignite program.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31484406/five-star-junior-point-guard-scoot-henderson-join-nba-g-league-ignite-next-season


we will be bad next year too


Scoot or Shaedon Sharpe would be nice.
alienchild wrote:Again, I hope the basketball gods give us the 14th pick in the draft. I hope OG asks for a trade, Birch signs elsewhere and GTJ signs an offer sheet and Raptors don't match. Frankly Masai is dead to me.
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Post#142 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:01 am

KL78192020 wrote:Los_29 in shambles...lol

but but but...it was tampa...but but..but it was covid...lol 2-8 in Toronto


Get ready for his essay rebuttal, he's coming for you now
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Post#144 » by will » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:03 am

Fire up that tank, boys!!!
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Post#146 » by Chandan » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:08 am

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Post#147 » by will » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:08 am

We are going to need a new exhaust system for the tank!
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Post#148 » by Bruin » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:25 am

Look at us being 4 games under .500

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Post#149 » by Skeezo » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:41 am

Without making a significant trade that moves out talent for draft stock, I think it's already becoming clear we will be in the same position as last year fighting between the 7 through 9 seeds... I think we were super lucky to hit on 7.5% odds. The chance of lightning striking twice in that lottery position or worse is unlikely. As a result, I think the draft team is going to be faced with a little tougher challenge getting another elite talent in the later part of the lottery.

Since the beginning of last year, I held my stance of holding on to FVV/Siakim/OG as the core championship holdovers and get whatever assets we could for the remaining to move into an "asset acquiring" mode. My opinion hasn't changed on what we have done with our remaining assets thus far. The Lowry trade was underwhelming. Precious is okay, but 20m in cap space + Lowry is a lot to pay for a #20 pick. GTJ for Powell made sense as a plan to go younger and cheaper than Norm. However, giving a 3rd year Player Option at the same AAV as Norm highlights a poor understanding of the Free Agent marketplace

I do think it's time to start fielding calls on Siakim to see what interest is out there. Pascal is a great 3rd fiddle on a championship team, and for a team that is knocking on the door, paying his max contract makes sense. For us, not so much. I also think we should start to look what value can be had for GTJ. Good player, but he is going to want a raise on an already pricey salary, and I'm not sure that is in the Raptors best interests.

FVV is our unequivical leader, and I think you need to slot out money to keep him in the fold past this contract. The same can be said for OG. We will be lucky to have Barnes and next year's rookie under cost-effective control for another 3-4 years, but I'm not sure this team is really going to be a possible contender until Barnes' 4th year. Next year playoffs, 3rd year win a round or two, after that, we will be ready to go.
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Post#150 » by yodamaster » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:42 am

will wrote:We are going to need a new exhaust system for the tank!


we nuclear powered, no need for exhaust
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Post#151 » by Chandan » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:43 am

PrinceAli wrote:Look at us being 4 games under .500

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only 5 games sits between us and 2nd seed. What a tight race!
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Post#152 » by will » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:48 am

yodamaster wrote:
will wrote:We are going to need a new exhaust system for the tank!


we nuclear powered, no need for exhaust


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#153 » by dgr81 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:48 am

Skeezo wrote:FVV is our unequivical leader, and I think you need to slot out money to keep him in the fold past this contract.

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Post#154 » by 720 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:01 am

Random sidenote. This card of Scottie's goes for like 300+ bucks.

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lol I don't get it.
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Post#155 » by DelAbbot » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:21 am

720 wrote:Random sidenote. This card of Scottie's goes for like 300+ bucks.

lol I don't get it.


bro do you even stonk?
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Post#156 » by 720 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:22 am

DelAbbot wrote:
720 wrote:Random sidenote. This card of Scottie's goes for like 300+ bucks.

lol I don't get it.


bro do you even stonk?

I'm just saying, no autograph, no patch. And goes for that much.

This one goes for like 600 bucks and I actually get it.

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Post#157 » by sofargone » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:25 am

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Post#158 » by C-R-E-A-M- » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:26 am

Skeezo wrote:Without making a significant trade that moves out talent for draft stock, I think it's already becoming clear we will be in the same position as last year fighting between the 7 through 9 seeds... I think we were super lucky to hit on 7.5% odds. The chance of lightning striking twice in that lottery position or worse is unlikely. As a result, I think the draft team is going to be faced with a little tougher challenge getting another elite talent in the later part of the lottery.

Since the beginning of last year, I held my stance of holding on to FVV/Siakim/OG as the core championship holdovers and get whatever assets we could for the remaining to move into an "asset acquiring" mode. My opinion hasn't changed on what we have done with our remaining assets thus far. The Lowry trade was underwhelming. Precious is okay, but 20m in cap space + Lowry is a lot to pay for a #20 pick. GTJ for Powell made sense as a plan to go younger and cheaper than Norm. However, giving a 3rd year Player Option at the same AAV as Norm highlights a poor understanding of the Free Agent marketplace

I do think it's time to start fielding calls on Siakim to see what interest is out there. Pascal is a great 3rd fiddle on a championship team, and for a team that is knocking on the door, paying his max contract makes sense. For us, not so much. I also think we should start to look what value can be had for GTJ. Good player, but he is going to want a raise on an already pricey salary, and I'm not sure that is in the Raptors best interests.

FVV is our unequivical leader, and I think you need to slot out money to keep him in the fold past this contract. The same can be said for OG. We will be lucky to have Barnes and next year's rookie under cost-effective control for another 3-4 years, but I'm not sure this team is really going to be a possible contender until Barnes' 4th year. Next year playoffs, 3rd year win a round or two, after that, we will be ready to go.


last 4 draft lotteries the team with the 7th best odds moved in to the top 4. thats the money spot
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Post#159 » by NotMyKawhi » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:54 am

this draft is really bad imo
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Post#160 » by 720 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:58 am

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:
Skeezo wrote:Without making a significant trade that moves out talent for draft stock, I think it's already becoming clear we will be in the same position as last year fighting between the 7 through 9 seeds... I think we were super lucky to hit on 7.5% odds. The chance of lightning striking twice in that lottery position or worse is unlikely. As a result, I think the draft team is going to be faced with a little tougher challenge getting another elite talent in the later part of the lottery.

Since the beginning of last year, I held my stance of holding on to FVV/Siakim/OG as the core championship holdovers and get whatever assets we could for the remaining to move into an "asset acquiring" mode. My opinion hasn't changed on what we have done with our remaining assets thus far. The Lowry trade was underwhelming. Precious is okay, but 20m in cap space + Lowry is a lot to pay for a #20 pick. GTJ for Powell made sense as a plan to go younger and cheaper than Norm. However, giving a 3rd year Player Option at the same AAV as Norm highlights a poor understanding of the Free Agent marketplace

I do think it's time to start fielding calls on Siakim to see what interest is out there. Pascal is a great 3rd fiddle on a championship team, and for a team that is knocking on the door, paying his max contract makes sense. For us, not so much. I also think we should start to look what value can be had for GTJ. Good player, but he is going to want a raise on an already pricey salary, and I'm not sure that is in the Raptors best interests.

FVV is our unequivical leader, and I think you need to slot out money to keep him in the fold past this contract. The same can be said for OG. We will be lucky to have Barnes and next year's rookie under cost-effective control for another 3-4 years, but I'm not sure this team is really going to be a possible contender until Barnes' 4th year. Next year playoffs, 3rd year win a round or two, after that, we will be ready to go.


last 4 draft lotteries the team with the 7th best odds moved in to the top 4. thats the money spot

7 is where the odds take a jump to the 30s. It is worth noting.
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