PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again

[WaltFrazier]

what is your suggestion to resolve this?

For a start, shore up the roster imbalance by getting a center. Trade Dragic and Boucher for someone who can play. It's hard to say what else until and if we ever get everyone healthy together. If we do, play a center on court almost all the time, and go longer at the 2/3/4 with Pascal, OG, Barnes and Yuta more.

Do we go young, or FVV and Pascal's age? If you go young and talented, that might take a lot of picks. If we went older, what would Jakob Poeltl cost?

I'd say Pascal and Fred's age because they are under 30, still young. OG is a vet too, and Barnes and other young guys will follow along. A vet big like Jakob would be great.

[yassillio]

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To say he’s missing Leo. Wow. What an absolute burn on Alvin.

Does anybody like Alvin over Leo?

I'd imagine most people would rather listen to that screaming child on that broadcast then listen to Alvin talk

That child was much worse than Leo and Alvin lol.

[OAKLEY_2]

Fred getting better at throwing lobs but he’s got a ways to go in the passing department

We need bigs stronger than a banton or bonga yo compete on defense but we ain’t going for the play in game …. We tanking ladies

Bonga is a guard-wing.

[OAKLEY_2]

Ditto Banton.

[duppyy]

I said the beginning of the season that I don’t trust a team led by FVV and people called me a hater. He’s just not a real leader and not a real pg.

I call you a lame arse blamer. Don't like losing then don't act like one. Team is young and injured. Go watch Lebron.

Even when healthy this team is flawed. If you can't see that then you're just a blind homer.

[Appostis]

Barnes 19/7/3/2/4 on 8/16 fg% 3/6 3p%

While fvv only seems to pass to his boy siakam

..you realize Barnes sees these numbers because the defense is not focused on him?

Right?

the defense seemed to focus on his when he was getting double teamed

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Great..the other 90% of the time?

[RaptorReloaded]

..you realize Barnes sees these numbers because the defense is not focused on him?

Right?

the defense seemed to focus on his when he was getting double teamed

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Great..the other 90% of the time?

Exactly! He's not being covered so pass him the effing ball!!

[RaptorPride]

For a start, shore up the roster imbalance by getting a center. Trade Dragic and Boucher for someone who can play. It's hard to say what else until and if we ever get everyone healthy together. If we do, play a center on court almost all the time, and go longer at the 2/3/4 with Pascal, OG, Barnes and Yuta more.

Do we go young, or FVV and Pascal's age? If you go young and talented, that might take a lot of picks. If we went older, what would Jakob Poeltl cost?

I'd say Pascal and Fred's age because they are under 30, still young. OG is a vet too, and Barnes and other young guys will follow along. A vet big like Jakob would be great.

If we can get Jakob for Dragic and Boucher I would be down. Pascal and him are close and had great chemistry when they played together. Jakobs freethrow shooting will kill us late in games. But we should be fine with that this year and can go small down the line. I would want to get a lottery pick this year and then focus on making the playoffs next year. With Barnes hopefully having taken a step on offense.

[Mikistan]

Here is the video of Scottie tripping in the tunnel pregame yesterday

Big oof

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CW76FGxAQcL/?utm_medium=copy_link

[Jadoogar]

But you listed 3 teams built to contend right now. The Raps are a rebuilding team and aren't at that level, even when healthy.

The Raps were expected to be in the play-in range competing with teams like CHA, IND, NY, WAS, CLE etc. I think they can be if they're reasonably healthy.

all 6 of the teams you listed have been better than the raptors. Cleveland missed Mobley for 2 weeks and now Sexton is out for the season. Pacers are missing TJ Warren. Knicks missed Mitchell Robinson for a while

Injuries are just a lazy excuse considering basically every team is missing players. No team is going to have 100% health all season.

I don't mind losing to the Nets or our recent road games or even the Celtics, that makes sense, those teams are significantly better than us. There's no excuse to lose to the Grizzlies without Morant at home.

No doubt that expecting to be 100% healthy all season is unrealistic, but do you expect this team to win regularly missing 2 starters consistently all season?

The team is too young and not deep enough to deal with it.

i would expect to be better than 2-8 at home

[ruckus]

It's really hard to say what this team needs at this point. Health is a major factor but there also needs to be a roster upgrade. The easy answer as others have pointed out is size but I think the Raps are committed to figuring out their switching/gambling/change up defense that unless they get back a big that's pretty mobile I'm not sure if there's a move to be made there.

They also need to upgrade their playmaking. Fred is still a work in process in that area and there are a few players currently on the roster that will contribute with more seasoning (i.e. Barnes and Banton) but if they are looking to compete this year, a PG upgrade is a necessity. Lastly, they need a go to guy. I think the system creates a lot of pressure on the players to make their shots. We need a guy that'll take that pressure off. Someone that when you put the ball in their hands, they'll create points.

I don't think those guys are on the trade market right now and I don't think this team is ultimately competing for anything significant this year. Any upgrades with Dragic and Boucher as the bait would be along the fringes, nothing significant.

[Yeezus_]

Do we go young, or FVV and Pascal's age? If you go young and talented, that might take a lot of picks. If we went older, what would Jakob Poeltl cost?

I'd say Pascal and Fred's age because they are under 30, still young. OG is a vet too, and Barnes and other young guys will follow along. A vet big like Jakob would be great.

If we can get Jakob for Dragic and Boucher I would be down. Pascal and him are close and had great chemistry when they played together. Jakobs freethrow shooting will kill us late in games. But we should be fine with that this year and can go small down the line. I would want to get a lottery pick this year and then focus on making the playoffs next year. With Barnes hopefully having taken a step on offense.

lol we arent getting Poeltl, who is arguably one of the best rim protectors and defensive C's in the league with elite vision for Dragic/Boucher. Poeltl is signed to a team friendly deal as well.

[WaltFrazier]

I'd say Pascal and Fred's age because they are under 30, still young. OG is a vet too, and Barnes and other young guys will follow along. A vet big like Jakob would be great.

If we can get Jakob for Dragic and Boucher I would be down. Pascal and him are close and had great chemistry when they played together. Jakobs freethrow shooting will kill us late in games. But we should be fine with that this year and can go small down the line. I would want to get a lottery pick this year and then focus on making the playoffs next year. With Barnes hopefully having taken a step on offense.

lol we arent getting Poeltl, who is arguably one of the best rim protectors and defensive C's in the league with elite vision for Dragic/Boucher. Poeltl is signed to a team friendly deal as well.

Agree. I'd be all for getting Theis from Houston, doesn't do the things Jakob does but a solid veteran center, especially with Birch missing so many games.

[deeps6x]

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Simmons is a hack, but he's not wrong. Except for missing Leo, nobody misses Leo.

Leo is 1000 percent better than Alvin.. and we need to clean house with devlin also.

100% disagree. Alvin speaks his mind. He isn't afraid to criticize a ref or opposing player. And he doesn't talk down to viewers. Good riddance Leo.

[grimlock]

Simmons is a hack, but he's not wrong. Except for missing Leo, nobody misses Leo.

Leo is 1000 percent better than Alvin.. and we need to clean house with devlin also.

100% disagree. Alvin speaks his mind. He isn't afraid to criticize a ref or opposing player. And he doesn't talk down to viewers. Good riddance Leo.

The real reason why Leo is gone is because we no longer have a Big Man.. which means he loses half his talking points.

[Jadoogar]

I'd say Pascal and Fred's age because they are under 30, still young. OG is a vet too, and Barnes and other young guys will follow along. A vet big like Jakob would be great.

If we can get Jakob for Dragic and Boucher I would be down. Pascal and him are close and had great chemistry when they played together. Jakobs freethrow shooting will kill us late in games. But we should be fine with that this year and can go small down the line. I would want to get a lottery pick this year and then focus on making the playoffs next year. With Barnes hopefully having taken a step on offense.

lol we arent getting Poeltl, who is arguably one of the best rim protectors and defensive C's in the league with elite vision for Dragic/Boucher. Poeltl is signed to a team friendly deal as well.

Agree that's way to little. potentially available centers - Poeltl, Christian Wood, Mitchell Robinson (UFA this summer), one of the Magic centers (unlikely but both are RFA), one of the pacers' centers (will require a lot more to get either), Dwight Powell, Marvin Bagley (maybe)

Whoever we target is going to take a lot more than 2 bad players on expiring contracts.

[Mikistan]

Simmons is a hack, but he's not wrong. Except for missing Leo, nobody misses Leo.

Leo is 1000 percent better than Alvin.. and we need to clean house with devlin also.

100% disagree. Alvin speaks his mind. He isn't afraid to criticize a ref or opposing player. And he doesn't talk down to viewers. Good riddance Leo.

Thats a seven footer out there
when i was at syracuse
you dont need to jump, how often do you see a jump shot get blocked
do your movie voice, matt!

[hyper316]

Can we talk about Barnes getting blown by on defense at the perimeter

His lateral quicks seems to be affected

[Lateral Quicks]

Shooting is a real weakness of this team, and when you're missing two of your best shooters (Trent and OG), it's not surprising it got ugly. Still, FVV has to do a better job as lead point. And if he's incapable or unwilling, then we should give the ball to Scottie more - he generally makes something good happen.

I still want to see what a healthy roster can do over a stretch of 15-20 games. On paper this is still a playoff team IMO, but it sure looks ugly now.

In the meantime, Nurse needs to stop running guys into the ground. If you need to play guys 40 minutes a game to keep games competitive, then the team isn't very good to begin with. Let's get healthy and spread the load more. FVV has impressive stamina, but aside from him no one should be averaging more than 35 minutes a game.

[HumbleRen]

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