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Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants)

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#941 » by truth18 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:33 pm

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misinformation because you know? you know for sure? that's like saying I spread misinformation about Jesus because I am a believer (not saying you aren't)...Does a non believer know for sure? Does a believer know for sure?

Here's a little tip. YOU DON"T.

Nothing I said on here is racist. Nothing is bad faith. You are creating a false narrative because you don't like what I say.


Believe whatever you want, but pretending nothing you have said is racist or in bad faith is bull. You spin trash conspiracy theories, you’ve used project veritas as a source, IIRC. That alone says you’re down the rabbit hole, which whatever, you can choose to be ignorant, it’s your life. But telling everyone else to wake up and saying people are being ignorant is ignorant in itself. You manage to both talk down to people, and play the victim
card, it’s soft as hell. On a board full of crap, you are the bottom of the bin.

The only reason you’re not banned is because you’re not worth the time of going through the process. And even the most impressionable people on this board know what you’re about, it’s incredibly transparent.


I feel really bad for you and others that think like you. Robots


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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#942 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:44 pm

truth18 wrote:
ddb wrote:
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Believe whatever you want, but pretending nothing you have said is racist or in bad faith is bull. You spin trash conspiracy theories, you’ve used project veritas as a source, IIRC. That alone says you’re down the rabbit hole, which whatever, you can choose to be ignorant, it’s your life. But telling everyone else to wake up and saying people are being ignorant is ignorant in itself. You manage to both talk down to people, and play the victim
card, it’s soft as hell. On a board full of crap, you are the bottom of the bin.

The only reason you’re not banned is because you’re not worth the time of going through the process. And even the most impressionable people on this board know what you’re about, it’s incredibly transparent.


I feel really bad for you and others that think like you. Robots


Nanobots giving me those zombie-cypher snake powers bro. Join us.

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#943 » by truth18 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:01 pm

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truth18 wrote:
ddb wrote:
I feel really bad for you and others that think like you. Robots


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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#944 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:08 pm

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Post#945 » by ddb » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:16 pm

This thread needs to be locked. It's like a frat house for like minded Ass holes. If anyone disagrees the name calling begins. Lock this up mods. Do the right thing. It's been the most divisive thread this forum has ever seen.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#946 » by Captain_Caveman » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:19 pm

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A **** ton of money and power to the elites...the destruction of the middle class. medical chips & vaccine passports. new Gov't will have complete control over the majority of the population globally. I mean the United Nations has the 2030 agenda right there for anyone to read... It's a nice spin/way of laying things out.....Don't buy in.

The only way to stop is to not comply. Fight/protest back.

I'm not some guy that's completely against vaccines....Okay, maybe sorta. But I've been vaccinated by whole life. a covid vaccine I will not take, but that's my personal choice as it should be. eliminating unvaccinated people from every day life is the problem....it isn't necessarily specific to someone who doesn't want to take a vaccine. It's more of an attack on someone in society that will not comply to new orders. Taking away freedoms and making it difficult for someone to live their life, work, etc is communism. It's also a desperation play attempting to FORCE people into doing something they don't want to do.

one thing that covid is taught us all is that there are millions upon millions of people that are willingly handing over freedoms. Call me what you want, it doesn't bother me. But let's all view things beyond the first layer. This isn't about your safety. This isn't about your neighbors safety. There are millions of examples of the vaccine not doing what they said the vaccine will do.
our first clue should have been when American democrats publicly stressed that people should not take a vaccine that was rushed through by Donald Trump. Only to completely flip the script as soon as they were sworn into office. flip the script and then make mandates and other unconstitutional decisions their very first priority.

Globally, everything starts and ends with America. So when you say to me, "well this is a global pandemic and a global issue. it isn't political. your narrative makes no sense..." Ummmmm America is the free world. the United Nations and the rest of the world cannot usher anything new in without America first. That's why it was absolutely mandatory that they do everything in power to get Trump out of office....a massive coop to get him out. he was exposing too much. Is he tied in to big Pharma? absolutely...most politicians and powerful business folks are... How else is someone like Nancy Pelosi who makes a salary of under 200k worth over 200million. That's just one of many.

DeSantis and others are still fighting for America and the middle class and for freedom. For the last century the middle class has been the backbone of the free world. Politics don't really matter one way or another to the 1%. the poor always go with whoever gives the most handouts. and usually the poor are the least educated (unfortunately)....so the easiest to sway. Hey, we'll hand out checks.....all you need to do is comply. and believe me....it won't be long until the Biden administration has another round of checks going out....only this time you will need to have proof of vaccination status to receive.

people need to understand that this was never about a virus with a 99.9% survival rate.... is it dangerous for old people? for some, yes...because it's a manufactured SARS-cov-2 that they haven't been exposed to before....coronavirus' have been around for a long time...but anyway, you DO NOT shut down the world, mandate vaccines (especially to medical professionals) during an actual pandemic. It's all optics. It's all part of a much larger plan. Masks? optics. Wearing a mask into a restaurant only to take it off as soon as you sit down tells you all you need to know. Biden wearing a mask to the podium only to take it right off to turn around and talk to folks around him....it's all theater.

So I stress that if you want to keep being vaccinated....by all means go right ahead. But please don't go along with supporting mass mandates, and fake narratives that it's the unvaccinated creating all the issues. it's not. It COULD be the complete opposite. this is the same formula used against Jewish people back during Nazi Germany. it took years of propaganda and fake news to turn a large percentage of that population into believing that it was the Jews spreading illness, etc, etc.
This is at an even larger scale with even more powerful people behind it. Even locally in our country there are people like George Soros pulling the strings. Look up his history if you haven't already. and not the first article you read on google. And they are coming for your guns too. with strict gun laws it'll make it easier to take away peoples guns.....which by the way, our country would revolt before this happens, but I digress.

Even the folks on this board that are bashing me. All they're doing is shoving down articles and "facts" from top medical boards who are completely paid for and bought by the powers that be. buying right in to the segregation of completely normal citizens.


This is one of the worst things I've ever read. I feel bad for you and for anyone that has to listen to you spew this braindead drivel in real life.


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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#947 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:26 pm

ddb wrote:This thread needs to be locked. It's like a frat house for like minded Ass holes. If anyone disagrees the name calling begins. Lock this up mods. Do the right thing. It's been the most divisive thread this forum has ever seen.


Oh, the mods are definitely about to do the right thing.

Don’t you worry.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#948 » by SuperDeluxe » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:27 pm

ddb wrote:This thread needs to be locked. It's like a frat house for like minded Ass holes. If anyone disagrees the name calling begins. Lock this up mods. Do the right thing. It's been the most divisive thread this forum has ever seen.

I don't see why I can't read or share relevant information about covid because you decided to crash 'n' trash this thread. Maybe a better idea would be to split this thread into two: one for the scientific-based discussion (i.e., a hill for the sheeple to pasture in flocks), and a new one for the conspiracy-based discussion where the hot-tub geniuses and the tinfoil hat fanboys can insult each other's intelligence without anyone being offended.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#949 » by truth18 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:34 pm

SuperDeluxe wrote:
ddb wrote:This thread needs to be locked. It's like a frat house for like minded Ass holes. If anyone disagrees the name calling begins. Lock this up mods. Do the right thing. It's been the most divisive thread this forum has ever seen.

I don't see why I can't read or share relevant information about covid because you decided to crash 'n' trash this thread. Maybe a better idea would be to split this thread into two: one for the scientific-based discussion (i.e., a hill for the flocks of sheeple to pasture), and a new one for the conspiracy-based discussion where the hot-tub geniuses and the tinfoil hat fanboys can insult each other's intelligence without anyone being offended.


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Post#950 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:38 pm

truth18 wrote:
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ddb wrote:This thread needs to be locked. It's like a frat house for like minded Ass holes. If anyone disagrees the name calling begins. Lock this up mods. Do the right thing. It's been the most divisive thread this forum has ever seen.

I don't see why I can't read or share relevant information about covid because you decided to crash 'n' trash this thread. Maybe a better idea would be to split this thread into two: one for the scientific-based discussion (i.e., a hill for the flocks of sheeple to pasture), and a new one for the conspiracy-based discussion where the hot-tub geniuses and the tinfoil hat fanboys can insult each other's intelligence without anyone being offended.


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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#951 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Dec 1, 2021 6:38 pm

Man, I disagree about this thread being divisive. Ddb has brought this place together for the first time in years.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#952 » by soxfan2003 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:00 pm

ddb wrote: "A state free and healthy."


I am not looking to get into a war or words with you or the people opposing you in this thread but I think too many people are missing the bigger picture.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ -- not even saying the data from this website is perfect but it is a somewhat respected website that is publicly available and it is a website that I have used before so I am staying consistent.


As of yesterday....

China 3 deaths per million (Even if we believe China is undercounting by a factor of 25, still an extremely low death count)
Japan 146 deaths per million. 18,359 deaths. -- high vaccination rate but death rate was super low in comparison to the US even before vaccinations and some of their high vaccination rates is probably due to having an older population.
Sweden 1484 deaths per million --
United States 2406 deaths per million
Florida 2,865 deaths per million 61,539 deaths.
New York 2987 deaths per million
Peru 5,984 deaths per million

More people have died in the state of Florida of covid than have died in Japan and China combined of covid. That simple stat should give you pause that Florida isn't "healthy" and the people that oppose and agree with you pause.

Being objective, Florida's overall policies which do strongly encourage vaccines for the older people and other policies to lower the amount of covid deaths will probably end up working better than most US states even though their death rate is moderately higher than average and Florida does have the advantage of being a warm weather state. Covid spreads much less outdoors but yes I know when it gets really hot in some of those southern states, people flock indoors. There are so many different factors since Florida is a state that many older people go to retire. But overall, the US has failed at handling covid. With 20/20 hindsight it was going to be a sh*tstorm even if the US handled it perfectly since the US population as a whole is unhealthy. The US has done a "good job" with vaccines and therapeutics but an F- job and that is being very generous addressing the root causes why the US population is so vulnerable to covid.

Even though I am vaccinated, I actually disagree with nearly all -- not all --- vaccine mandates that are applied outside of health care. As a general rule in a situation like this where a vaccine or drug hasn't been proven over the long run, inform people in an unbiased manner and let them make their decision. What is best for a 29 year old elite athlete in tremendous cardiovascular shape, may be different than someone even 32 and obese. I don't think the state of NY/NYC should be preventing Kyrie Irving from playing basketball but the Nets/NBA allow him or any other unvaccinated player to play should be willing to refund courtside season ticket holders near the bench. That being said, there isn't a single state in the continental USA that is "healthy".

That is the core of the problem and a big part of the reason why the US/similar nations have so many deaths in comparison to nations with much fitter populations. Peru is an obese country...surprise surprise they have a ton of deaths as well.

I first said it a long time ago but the US needs to be more focused on obesity when tackling covid than any other factor. Nearly eighty percent of covid deaths have obesity as a factor if not the main factor. This does NOT mean covid isn't a serious illness that may end up killing over 100 million before I die for all I know but since it is serious, why drop the ball on the best way to attack it. Eighty percent is a crazy high figure which may be a dramatic underestimate if anything since it doesn't account for how obese people are much more likely to spread covid. Absolutely crazy high and as some doctors/scientists have stated, it is alarming that the role of obesity is almost being reported on as just another item/a mere footnote. Fight obesity as the "first line" of defense against covid and many other diseases since in the medium to long run, it will make the biggest difference by far.

Unless we fight obesity with covid and eat healthier, as a nation we are going to continue to get our asses kicked and have an overly expensive health care system.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#953 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:13 pm

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Post#954 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:34 pm

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#955 » by truth18 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:50 pm

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K For Three wrote:This thread is a disgrace and another reason why I rarely come to this subforum anymore.


Know the feeling— hope all is well!

Yep I am fine. I moderate covid stuff with a few guys pretty much daily downstairs on the CA board, so it's kind of a trip seeing whats going on here. :wink:


Peep the discord Covid thread. Completely rational, helpful information. Night and day.

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Post#956 » by Ed Pinkney » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:03 pm

The insults, personal attacks, and just general dick.ish behaviour in this thread is gross. "Anything goes" doesn't mean you actually have to do it.
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Post#957 » by Mr Loggins » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:27 pm

Ed Pinkney wrote:The insults, personal attacks, and just general dick.ish behaviour in this thread is gross. "Anything goes" doesn't mean you actually have to do it.



it’s a “personal choice” wether or not to participate in the thread….
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#958 » by Ed Pinkney » Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:51 pm

Mr Loggins wrote:
Ed Pinkney wrote:The insults, personal attacks, and just general dick.ish behaviour in this thread is gross. "Anything goes" doesn't mean you actually have to do it.



it’s a “personal choice” wether or not to participate in the thread….



Yes, that is true. And I have chosen to participate in the thread (sporadically). It's also a personal choice whether or not to be ugly towards each other.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#959 » by exculpatory » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:23 am

What got lost in the explosion of nauseating crap posted by DDB today (which I avoided) is the TRUTH of what I posted last night & DJ’s response. It is worth reposting right now to reenforce the ENORMOUS VALUE iof this thread.

ME:
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This is the most important off topic thread that I have seen here in the last 17 years.
This is a once in a lifetime pandemic which will have resulted in 1 million dead Americans by the end of winter.
It has been my pleasure to provide my medical expertise & insight supported by innumerable citations from the best publications out there - because I know that many on our board appreciate my time & effort.
There is NO debate here whatsoever. It is true medical science VS malignant & dangerous disinformation/willful ignorance/astounding stupidity espoused by a few.
The anti-vaccination anti-masking people on this board & around the country are indeed propagating a pandemic Holocaust. Period. The end. Absolute fact.
My many sincere attempts in the earlier iterations of this thread to explain the true science contained NO insults.
Of late, I have violated the TOS multiple times because my utter disgust & contempt for those posting irresponsible & dangerous trash has reached a boiling point. A huge number of my medical colleagues have the same disdain for these selfish & ignorant dirtbags.
I have blocked our small group of dangerous morons, but I still see their putrid garbage when other people respond to them.
I would like to continue to intermittently provide my expertise for the large number here who appreciate it, but I am fed up with feeling the need to verbally decapitate these morons.
So I may have to stop.
And that would be a very significant loss for this thread & this board.

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“Absolutely, I've said it many times, but it bears repeating - I appreciate all the information you bring to the thread. I know there are plenty of posters who only read, and stay out of commenting, who appreciate seeing it as well.

I think the benefits of having the thread far outweigh any contention that exists in it.”
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants) 

Post#960 » by canman1971 » Thu Dec 2, 2021 4:18 am

This thread is kind of like what I deal with at school. Most students "get it" however, there are the lazy ones (some not on purpose) where you have to constantly remind them to pull their mask up, or follow the distancing requirements. It is beyond comprehension. Nobody likes this, however, this is where we are at and it is those who deny that are going to make it last way longer than it should. I'm pretty mellow and just get slightly annoyed, but continue to do "my job" for the greater good. However, I see teachers who are just spent. And it is due to those who won't listen to science and protocol. I mean who the **** likes to wear a mask for 8 hours a day? Certainly not an adult who is a freaking human Chia Pet (me). But I get it. I didn't like math or science that much in HS (mostly teacher related), but I still freaking did it. Why? Because I didn't want to end up a loser and work in a job I hated for 60+years. And my wife has lost multiple of her favorite patients over the past few weeks. I'm ****ing tired of those who just think about themselves. It's awful. And think of the season we are in; it's tragic.

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