2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

[bigfoot]

According ESPN BPI playoff odds the Suns will finish with a 55-27 record ... https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/BPI-Playoff-Odds/espn-nba-basketball-power-index-playoff-odds

I guess we should expect a 37-24 finish over the rest of the season. Prepare for a lot of losing.

[matt131]

According ESPN BPI playoff odds the Suns will finish with a 55-27 record ... https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/BPI-Playoff-Odds/espn-nba-basketball-power-index-playoff-odds

I guess we should expect a 37-24 finish over the rest of the season. Prepare for a lot of losing.

Holy crap what's with their title odds? GS and Utah at over 33% and then PHX at 3%? Dang that seems a little funny.

[bigfoot]

Find a new coach ASAP ...

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[schnakenpopanz]

i think we can all agree that Mikal Bridges is by far the most admired player on this roster.

[bigfoot]

Seems like Booker will miss two weeks at a minimum to let his hamstring get right. That's six games on the schedule. This will be a huge opportunity for Ayton. We will see if he is up to the challenge and strings together a long series of quality games.

Book usually comes back early from any type of injury. I think two weeks is too much.

Payne with a hamstring injury early this season missed two weeks. I think there were 5 games from Oct 23 to Nov 5. I imagine the Suns will be careful with Booker since this has happened before.

[bigfoot]

i think we can all agree that Mikal Bridges is by far the most admired player on this roster.

I admire a lot of the Suns players on this roster. Crowder, Payne, Johnson, CP3, Book are just dogs out there on the court. Like Bridges it's hard to ever question effort ... they may make poor decisions at times but effort is never questioned.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Fred Katz (@FredKatz) Tweeted:
The Suns aren’t just the best team in the NBA right now. They’re also the most versatile. I have no idea what their weaknesses are. They’ll slow down fast teams, speed up slow ones; they’ll go big or small; they’ll throw a million different defenses at you. So versatile.

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I feel like this makes a lot of talking heads uncomfortable because they don't have any one thing they can point to and say, this is why the Suns are the best team in the league or a top contender. They look at teams like the Warriors and they can very easily point to Steph being a top 10 offensive player of all time, Dray as a DPOY, Klay waiting in the wings and the championship caliber coach. They can't really do that with the Suns so it's really difficult and makes them uncomfortable to almost "go out on a limb" and give the Suns the recognition because they don't want to look dumb when they get pressed on why they think the Suns are elite but can't pinpoint any one thing.

[spanishninja]

Seems like Booker will miss two weeks at a minimum to let his hamstring get right. That's six games on the schedule. This will be a huge opportunity for Ayton. We will see if he is up to the challenge and strings together a long series of quality games.

Book usually comes back early from any type of injury. I think two weeks is too much.

Payne with a hamstring injury early this season missed two weeks. I think there were 5 games from Oct 23 to Nov 5. I imagine the Suns will be careful with Booker since this has happened before.

I hope it won't be 2 weeks for Booker. After this week we only have two games before 12/13 against the clippers.

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[Slim Charless]

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Stephen A is such clown.

I'm sure he'll just downplay the Suns win as Steph just having an off night. lol

I finally watched this clip after hearing about it. And first, I should know better than to get mad at Stephen A or Bip Skayless as they are WWE performers at this time. They are all about ratings and clicks

But he brings up the Bucks series. That was the Suns first playoff run in 11 years. He talks about Steph Curry stopping the bleeding. Well go back to the 2012-2013 season when the Warriors started the first of 7 straight play-offs - that Steph Curry, that Draymond, that Klay would NOT have beaten this iteration of the Bucks - meaning Giannis and a very veteran team of Jrue, Khris, PJ, Lopez, etc.

So to compare a seasoned playoff team to a team making its first playoff experience - you can't

Such a Donkey Chapeau

What kills me about that Bucks series is that people seem to forget that all of our guys hadn't been there and that Ayton was 21 years old and going against the 2 time MVP...and still held his own imo. All I hear about Boston is how Tatum and Brown are young and get excuses but with us it's entirely different.

[handsome salary]

I think this really sums up why the media and GB reaction to the Suns success is what it is. It's from Bright Side:

“Skipping the line”

To me, this is the most important point when addressing what annoys other fanbases and why some media members find it so difficult to completely buy into this team.

Typically when teams make the finals, it’s a result that comes from years of struggling or tough playoff bouts. It’s either you take your lumps in the playoffs and fall short until you break through, or you’re a super team that did their job. Phoenix is neither of those things.

[Slim Charless]

Book usually comes back early from any type of injury. I think two weeks is too much.

Payne with a hamstring injury early this season missed two weeks. I think there were 5 games from Oct 23 to Nov 5. I imagine the Suns will be careful with Booker since this has happened before.

I hope it won't be 2 weeks for Booker. After this week we only have two games before 12/13 against the clippers.

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I think we can get him back next Friday vs the Celtics. That gives him almost 10 days. Hopefully that's enough. We won't need him for Detroit. Golden State is what it is and then we should be able to beat SAS without him too.

So we take the split vs the Dubs, should win the other 2 and hopefully get Booker by the time we play Boston.

[Stark]

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Sounds like he'll be back earlier than what we expected. Noice.

[Revived]

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[Slim Charless]

Next Friday vs Boston is my prediction. Gives him 10 days off.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Don't **** around and rush him back. They did that a few years ago when he hurt his hamstring and he ended up reinjuring it.


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[BobbieL]

I think this really sums up why the media and GB reaction to the Suns success is what it is. It's from Bright Side:

“Skipping the line”

To me, this is the most important point when addressing what annoys other fanbases and why some media members find it so difficult to completely buy into this team.

Typically when teams make the finals, it’s a result that comes from years of struggling or tough playoff bouts. It’s either you take your lumps in the playoffs and fall short until you break through, or you’re a super team that did their job. Phoenix is neither of those things.

I think that is pretty accurate. The Suns are a very well constructed roster. Good starters, some veterans with youth that are getting better, good bench. In some ways, its kind of how, dare I say it, how the Warriors were built. Curry, couple years later, Klay, Dray/Barnes - veterans traded for like Bogut, FA signing of Iggy plus other low cost veterans.

Now, I am not saying the Suns next few years will be like the Warriors - just saying how the team was built. And that 3rd year for the Warriors in the playoffs - that rolled through the regular season.

[Revived]

The Booker injury sucks in regards to the winning streak. Ultimately they will lose one while he’s out because otherwise they will need CP3 to be spectacular in every game while Book’s out and that’s just too much to ask out of CP3 at this point.

[DirtyDez]

Is there a site that shows who has played the most b2b’s to this point of the season?

[Bogyo]

Don't **** around and rush him back. They did that a few years ago when he hurt his hamstring and he ended up reinjuring it.


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My thoughts exactley. It doesn't really matter if he sits out 10 or 15 days. Thats like a 2 game difference... minimum of 4 games maximum of 7 (withouth looking at the schedule, so I could be a bit off). It doesn't make a meaningful difference in our records, but its the same hamstring that has been injured multiple times by now. Let it heal, let it rest. If he sits out 2 games more than the absolute minimum, and gets back to 100% meanwhile, whats the difference?

[Bogyo]

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Stephen A is such clown.

I'm sure he'll just downplay the Suns win as Steph just having an off night. lol

I finally watched this clip after hearing about it. And first, I should know better than to get mad at Stephen A or Bip Skayless as they are WWE performers at this time. They are all about ratings and clicks

But he brings up the Bucks series. That was the Suns first playoff run in 11 years. He talks about Steph Curry stopping the bleeding. Well go back to the 2012-2013 season when the Warriors started the first of 7 straight play-offs - that Steph Curry, that Draymond, that Klay would NOT have beaten this iteration of the Bucks - meaning Giannis and a very veteran team of Jrue, Khris, PJ, Lopez, etc.

So to compare a seasoned playoff team to a team making its first playoff experience - you can't

Such a Donkey Chapeau

What kills me about that Bucks series is that people seem to forget that all of our guys hadn't been there and that Ayton was 21 years old and going against the 2 time MVP...and still held his own imo. All I hear about Boston is how Tatum and Brown are young and get excuses but with us it's entirely different.

Honest question: does anybody here know anybody who speaks like this prck in real life? I can't get myself to listen to more than 1 sentence when he opens his mouth, and it's becouse the way he speaks. I've spoken english with all kinds of people, with all kinds of background and level of pronounciation and grammar, tone of voice, articulation whatever. I understood and respected their english all, whatever level it might be. But this guy is just making a mockery out of a language becouse he thinks he is theatrical or cool or whatever this way... also, his takes are usually trash. If someone tried to argue with me at any setting using this kinda "speaking" I would just get up and leave, and feel good about it knowing that the other guy was full of it, and was just a fraud without any actual argument, trying to make a point by his antics when he doesn't have a point or a valid argument. Shameful that he is on national tv all the time. But that's ESPN for you - thanks again for the botched Sarver story while we are at it. Barf.
So yeah, if he got the "Flex treatment" (not quoting him at all, no matter what) around here, this would be a happier place.