Anthony Edwards is going to be a star

[Wolveswin]

What's this whole "dump KAT" stuff? Since when can you only build around one young star? Good think GS never followed that line thinking.

KAT is a max C who can't play any defense, those guys are very tricky (not impossible) to build a winner around.

If you can trade him for value, and fit with Edwards, then now is the time IMO.

That is tough to do. Wolves don’t want to take a step back — trading for youth/1sts. With that said, here is one I like and would do (subscribing to trading Towns for Edwards fit)…

To Celtics: Towns + Russell + Spurs Filler (with Celtics TPE can be about anyone: Thad or McBuckets or ?)

To Spurs: Prince (expiring) + Pritchard (or other Celtics youth: Nesmith or Langford or ?) + Wolves 1st (lotto protected) + Celtics 1st (protected)

To Wolves: Brown + D. Murray + Horford

I am not a Russell fan next to Edwards, ship him out with Towns. Beverley and his D has looked great next to Edwards, Murray is a younger-upgraded version.

Horford or Reid
JV | McDaniels
Brown | Edwards
Edwards | Beasley
Murray | Beverley

Roster constructed for Edwards and not center focused. Note: Wolves will have max cap space 2023 offseason (approach 70M with no Beasley CO)…does Edwards, Brown, Murray attract a max player (at F or C)?

[FinnTheHuman]

What's this whole "dump KAT" stuff? Since when can you only build around one young star? Good think GS never followed that line thinking.

KAT is a max C who can't play any defense, those guys are very tricky (not impossible) to build a winner around.

If you can trade him for value, and fit with Edwards, then now is the time IMO.

What are you talking about? We wouldn't be able to be 6th in def rating and to allow less than 100 points around half the games this season if our starting C who plays 34.3 minutes per game couldn't play any defense.

[hardenASG13]

What's this whole "dump KAT" stuff? Since when can you only build around one young star? Good think GS never followed that line thinking.

KAT is a max C who can't play any defense, those guys are very tricky (not impossible) to build a winner around.

If you can trade him for value, and fit with Edwards, then now is the time IMO.

What are you talking about? We wouldn't be able to be 6th in def rating and to allow less than 100 points around half the games this season if our starting C who plays 34.3 minutes per game couldn't play any defense.

Yep, so much generalized sterotyping and stat posting about guys on the wolves (KAT and Edwards play no D, Edwards in an inefficient chucker who you dont WANT taking shots (its best for him to be ultra aggressive, and he embraces it)). Really wonder why people who arent watching them play love to hate on guys so much. Watch 5 wolves games and youll see Edwards is going to be among league leaders in scoring if not the leader for a long time. Thats a superstar.

[FNQ]

After reading what he said about that stare down with Jimmy Butler, I’m becoming more and more of a fan. I’m not sure he’ll be a winning #1/#2, but I’m rooting like hell for him

[CobraCommander]

After reading what he said about that stare down with Jimmy Butler, I’m becoming more and more of a fan. I’m not sure he’ll be a winning #1/#2, but I’m rooting like hell for him

I don’t see why he can’t be...he is 20 and scores like it’s as easy as getting out of bed. His physical gifts are off the charts-

He is so young and athletic with a nice release and decent handles...plus a great attitude ...

In the dmv he is what we would call a puppy with big paws. You know he is going to grow up to be s damn cane corso.

[FNQ]

After reading what he said about that stare down with Jimmy Butler, I’m becoming more and more of a fan. I’m not sure he’ll be a winning #1/#2, but I’m rooting like hell for him

I don’t see why he can’t be...he is 20 and scores like it’s as easy as getting out of bed. His physical gifts are off the charts-

He is so young and athletic with a nice release and decent handles...plus a great attitude ...

In the dmv he is what we would call a puppy with big paws. You know he is going to grow up to be s damn cane corso.

I know people love his tools and point to his flurries as a reason to be excited.. but Jordan Poole is kinda in the same mold (less athleticism/more shooting) and I wouldnt bet on a #1/2 in his future either, at least not on a winning team. Is it possible for both of them? Sure, plenty of tools. But the efficiency has to come a long way from what it is now. And Poole needs help defensively, so Ant has that on him too, but point still remains

Still think he will be the best player in that draft - sorry LaMelo fans - but when I say #1/#2 on a winner, I'm talking top 10-20 players. So I'm setting that bar high and just playing the odds. But it wouldnt surprise me in the least if he gets his TS into the high 500s and becomes that guy

[CobraCommander]

After reading what he said about that stare down with Jimmy Butler, I’m becoming more and more of a fan. I’m not sure he’ll be a winning #1/#2, but I’m rooting like hell for him

I don’t see why he can’t be...he is 20 and scores like it’s as easy as getting out of bed. His physical gifts are off the charts-

He is so young and athletic with a nice release and decent handles...plus a great attitude ...

In the dmv he is what we would call a puppy with big paws. You know he is going to grow up to be s damn cane corso.

I know people love his tools and point to his flurries as a reason to be excited.. but Jordan Poole is kinda in the same mold (less athleticism/more shooting) and I wouldnt bet on a #1/2 in his future either, at least not on a winning team. Is it possible for both of them? Sure, plenty of tools. But the efficiency has to come a long way from what it is now. And Poole needs help defensively, so Ant has that on him too, but point still remains

Still think he will be the best player in that draft - sorry LaMelo fans - but when I say #1/#2 on a winner, I'm talking top 10-20 players. So I'm setting that bar high and just playing the odds. But it wouldnt surprise me in the least if he gets his TS into the high 500s and becomes that guy

Edwards a sophomore a jr...he plays so raw but you can see the tools. His upside with his size is pretty damn high.

[FinnTheHuman]

I know people love his tools and point to his flurries as a reason to be excited.. but Jordan Poole is kinda in the same mold (less athleticism/more shooting) and I wouldnt bet on a #1/2 in his future either, at least not on a winning team. Is it possible for both of them? Sure, plenty of tools. But the efficiency has to come a long way from what it is now. And Poole needs help defensively, so Ant has that on him too, but point still remains

If Ant and Poole are in the same mold, then every young and promising guard in the league is in the same mold as Ant. No, Jordan Poole is not in the same mold

Jordan Poole is 195lbs, Ant is 235lbs+, they are nothing alike. Ant projects to be an elite slasher first and foremost, Poole looks more like some Jordan Clarkson type, he's 2 years older than Ant and Ant is already outplaying him. You should refrain from comparing the players from your team to the other players in the league, because then you come off as delusional. I get that you're high on your guys, but there's levels to this ****

[KembaWalker]

They should have taken LaMelo, but at least they didn't take Wiseman

[TheProdigy]

They should have taken LaMelo, but at least they didn't take Wiseman

LaMelo is the better player now but Ant has a higher ceiling.

[dickfox]

Best hops and best interview in the league.

[FNQ]

I know people love his tools and point to his flurries as a reason to be excited.. but Jordan Poole is kinda in the same mold (less athleticism/more shooting) and I wouldnt bet on a #1/2 in his future either, at least not on a winning team. Is it possible for both of them? Sure, plenty of tools. But the efficiency has to come a long way from what it is now. And Poole needs help defensively, so Ant has that on him too, but point still remains

If Ant and Poole are in the same mold, then every young and promising guard in the league is in the same mold as Ant. No, Jordan Poole is not in the same mold

Jordan Poole is 195lbs, Ant is 235lbs+, they are nothing alike. Ant projects to be an elite slasher first and foremost, Poole looks more like some Jordan Clarkson type, he's 2 years older than Ant and Ant is already outplaying him. You should refrain from comparing the players from your team to the other players in the league, because then you come off as delusional. I get that you're high on your guys, but there's levels to this ****

Would do very well to take your own advice, and I'm so so happy to do this after the way youve talked to people in this thread.

Oh they weigh different? They're different ages? Very cool. So different. Very relevant to the styles they play!

Also, as much as you hope Edwards becomes a legitimate #1/2 on a winner, he isnt one yet. He's below average efficiency on a losing/middle of the road team.

Edwards: 3.0 / 8.7 3PT/game (35%)
Poole: 3.3 /9.5 3PT/game (35%)

Edwards: 2.8 FG inside 5 ft/36 (64%)
Poole: 1.9 FG inside 5 ft/36 (75%)

Man, that's pretty similar isnt it? And Poole's finishing better? I guess Poole's better and more frequent finisher than you thought.. but hey that tradeoff of 1 drive for 1 3pter a game, it sure means a lot..

Now you can go ahead and hope that Edwards becomes more efficient - despite how crazily entitled some fans have acted about him, I am still rooting for the guy - but its exactly like the Warriors fanbase of old: find a high upside guy and deny any flaws, swat away and comparisons, and angrily argue about things that are easily looked up. Probably oughta do that next time... because I bet you assumed Poole was just a perimeter guy, right?

Edwards dunks more (27-6), so there's that. Averages slightly under 1 dunk per game (minutes regularized) than Poole. Makes up the difference in terms of their interior shots per 36 too.. but weird how they are pretty close in terms of 3s taken and drives per game.. not equal, but pretty close. A lot closer than you pompously proclaimed, for sure

[KembaWalker]

They should have taken LaMelo, but at least they didn't take Wiseman

LaMelo is the better player now but Ant has a higher ceiling.

I don't see that at all but I respect your opinion.

[FNQ]

I don’t see why he can’t be...he is 20 and scores like it’s as easy as getting out of bed. His physical gifts are off the charts-

He is so young and athletic with a nice release and decent handles...plus a great attitude ...

In the dmv he is what we would call a puppy with big paws. You know he is going to grow up to be s damn cane corso.

I know people love his tools and point to his flurries as a reason to be excited.. but Jordan Poole is kinda in the same mold (less athleticism/more shooting) and I wouldnt bet on a #1/2 in his future either, at least not on a winning team. Is it possible for both of them? Sure, plenty of tools. But the efficiency has to come a long way from what it is now. And Poole needs help defensively, so Ant has that on him too, but point still remains

Still think he will be the best player in that draft - sorry LaMelo fans - but when I say #1/#2 on a winner, I'm talking top 10-20 players. So I'm setting that bar high and just playing the odds. But it wouldnt surprise me in the least if he gets his TS into the high 500s and becomes that guy

Edwards a sophomore a jr...he plays so raw but you can see the tools. His upside with his size is pretty damn high.

Absolutely, there's tons of upside. But you can say that about most athletic players. Will he realize it? Possibly, but efficiency spikes aren't super common unless there's a development of an elite scoring method. Currently he's at what, 53% TS while 43% of his shots are 3s? (note: Poole at 59% TS and 56% of his shots are 3s).. so he'll either need to make a jump there, or probably more likely, improve his very low FTA rate (18% to Poole's 17). But he has the body to make that happen, just need to start seeing the results

Termed him early on as Monta Ellis, but with hope. Because when the W's first started playing Monta, so much upside. Wasnt built like Ant, but got to the rim at will, played tough defense, showed potential at the 3pt line.. and then he realized he had it all, and became a selfish chucker. If Ant can avoid that, and by all indications so far he will, he could be a yoked Monta with a better 3 ball. We'll see, but first step is bridging the efficiency, and hopefully that growth happens in-season this year

[FNQ]

They should have taken LaMelo, but at least they didn't take Wiseman

LaMelo is the better player now but Ant has a higher ceiling.

I don't see that at all but I respect your opinion.

In which direction?

Because.. I kinda like Ant both ways there.

[KembaWalker]

LaMelo is the better player now but Ant has a higher ceiling.

I don't see that at all but I respect your opinion.

In which direction?

Because.. I kinda like Ant both ways there.

If you think Ant is better than LaMelo now I can only chalk that up to residual salt seeing the GSW avatar. It's an indefensible opinion

[FNQ]

I don't see that at all but I respect your opinion.

In which direction?

Because.. I kinda like Ant both ways there.

If you think Ant is better than LaMelo now I can only chalk that up to residual salt seeing the GSW avatar

Sure. Couldn't be anything logical right? You aren't on the radar in terms of rivalry, I'm just giving my opinion on it. Doesnt help that I have no interest in your team opposed to MIN, and each time we see LaMelo, he either does poorly or cedes control to someone else (Bridges and Martin won the game, with an assist from Oubre by getting ejected)

I think Ant is a better player on a worse team - or at least, worse supporting cast - who plays better defense (especially on-ball). They have roughly the same efficiency, but Melo gets the metrics boost for being the team's primary ballhandler. But I'll absolutely take the elite direction-changing athlete with the better pull-up 3pt shot if I'm building a team now. Way harder to find that kind of player off-ball than lead guards.

[floppymoose]

I like how we have the Edwards Star thread right along with the thread saying Ball was the consensus #1 pick. Something for everyone!

[TheProdigy]

They should have taken LaMelo, but at least they didn't take Wiseman

LaMelo is the better player now but Ant has a higher ceiling.

I don't see that at all but I respect your opinion.

Keep in mind saying Edwards has a higher ceiling isn't necessarily the same as saying that he will definitely be better than Ball. My reasoning for saying Edwards has a higher ceiling is because 1) he started playing basketball seriously at a later age whereas Ball has been groomed for basketball since he was in diapers, and 2) because Edwards is a 99th percentile athlete (i.e. strength, size, agility, explosiveness) whereas Ball is maybe a little bit above average (tall, but short arms and not very explosive).

Ball is extremely advanced skill wise for his age. Guys who come into the league with exceptional skills and average athleticism don't typically show crazy improvement once they get into the league. Look at Doncic for example. It's much easier to improve skills than improve athleticism. If your skills are already top notch, there isn't a ton of room for improvement.

[Liver_Pooty]

Only thing allegedly keeping Ball back when he was drafted was his shooting. He's hitting 39% of his 3s on almost 8 attempts a game this season. Once he gets stronger so he can finish better watch out.

That being said Edwards is a good player and will make a few all star teams.