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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#21 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:26 pm

To put our depth into perspective as well...

Kyrie/Harris/Claxton all out. = 14-6 #1 in the east winning at the same level as last year.

Embiid goes down, philly lost 7 of 8 games in his absence.

Middleton was out. bucks lost 6 of 9 in his absence

Lebron/ariza out, lakers lost 5 of 7 with lebron out

Jokic was just out 4 games. nuggets 0-4 in that stretch

I think its grass is greener/lack of perspecitve when looking at depth. no one has 7 guys off the bench who are all 2-way guys capable of seamlessly holding it together. we are deeper then 99% of the league. both in stars and in rotation players.

Most teams miss a star or a starter and it goes south quick.
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#22 » by MGrand15 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:49 pm

The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#23 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:11 pm

MGrand15 wrote:The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.


Frustrating as a fan, but the league could not/should not be trying to force teams to disclose medical manners with players. if they feel teams are being inaccurate with injury reports, the can already fine them.

Alot of it may be the players choice too. they have labor law protections with disclosure. It also is alot more deterimental to the team to put something out that ends up being wrong then to just report it very late. or to report something where a decision must be made and now the media is scrutinizing a players health choices
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#24 » by Sharcm1 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:28 pm

Prokorov wrote:To put our depth into perspective as well...

Kyrie/Harris/Claxton all out. = 14-6 #1 in the east winning at the same level as last year.

Embiid goes down, philly lost 7 of 8 games in his absence.

Middleton was out. bucks lost 6 of 9 in his absence

Lebron/ariza out, lakers lost 5 of 7 with lebron out

Jokic was just out 4 games. nuggets 0-4 in that stretch

I think its grass is greener/lack of perspecitve when looking at depth. no one has 7 guys off the bench who are all 2-way guys capable of seamlessly holding it together. we are deeper then 99% of the league. both in stars and in rotation players.

And if they lost Durant what would the record be. I get what your saying and I think the nets are doing fine especially missing the players they are missing. But the Lakers without lebron or the sixers without embid would be equivalent to the nets without Durant. And I think they would lose a lot without him especially since harden has played like such garbage

Most teams miss a star or a starter and it goes south quick.
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#25 » by Sharcm1 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:29 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:To put our depth into perspective as well...

Kyrie/Harris/Claxton all out. = 14-6 #1 in the east winning at the same level as last year.

Embiid goes down, philly lost 7 of 8 games in his absence.

Middleton was out. bucks lost 6 of 9 in his absence

Lebron/ariza out, lakers lost 5 of 7 with lebron out

Jokic was just out 4 games. nuggets 0-4 in that stretch

I think its grass is greener/lack of perspecitve when looking at depth. no one has 7 guys off the bench who are all 2-way guys capable of seamlessly holding it together. we are deeper then 99% of the league. both in stars and in rotation players.


Most teams miss a star or a starter and it goes south quick.
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And if they lost Durant what would the record be. I get what your saying and I think the nets are doing fine especially missing the players they are missing. But the Lakers without lebron or the sixers without embid would be equivalent to the nets without Durant. And I think they would lose a lot without him especially since harden has played like such garbage
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#26 » by Sharcm1 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:31 pm

MGrand15 wrote:The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.



It’s called HIPAA. The teams can only disclose what the player wants. Or they are in violation of HIPAA which can result in fines or worse
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Post#27 » by MGrand15 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:34 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.



It’s called HIPAA. The teams can only disclose what the player wants. Or they are in violation of HIPAA which can result in fines or worse


You think we would know ANYTHING about athletes and their injuries if this was the case?
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#28 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:36 pm

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Sharcm1 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:To put our depth into perspective as well...

Kyrie/Harris/Claxton all out. = 14-6 #1 in the east winning at the same level as last year.

Embiid goes down, philly lost 7 of 8 games in his absence.

Middleton was out. bucks lost 6 of 9 in his absence

Lebron/ariza out, lakers lost 5 of 7 with lebron out

Jokic was just out 4 games. nuggets 0-4 in that stretch

I think its grass is greener/lack of perspecitve when looking at depth. no one has 7 guys off the bench who are all 2-way guys capable of seamlessly holding it together. we are deeper then 99% of the league. both in stars and in rotation players.


Most teams miss a star or a starter and it goes south quick.
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And if they lost Durant what would the record be. I get what your saying and I think the nets are doing fine especially missing the players they are missing. But the Lakers without lebron or the sixers without embid would be equivalent to the nets without Durant. And I think they would lose a lot without him especially since harden has played like such garbage


If we lost durant and still had kyrie i think our record would be about the same as what it is now.

No team, no matter how much depth can lose 2 stars and be ok. if we lost KD right now in adition to othes, we probably still hover close to .500 with current harden though, which is better then most would do missing their 2 top guys and 3 -4 starters
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#29 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:38 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
Sharcm1 wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.



It’s called HIPAA. The teams can only disclose what the player wants. Or they are in violation of HIPAA which can result in fines or worse


You think we would know ANYTHING about athletes and their injuries if this was the case?


We dont know the inner works. players may all sign waivers with teams/the players union for all we know that allows teams to disclose things. im sure if the team doc found out that a nets player had HIV or the clap or something they couldnt just come out and say that. not sure where those lines are and what waivers or releases may be in place.

but its somewhere between law and good business not to disclose things unless A) the player is cool with it and B) they know for 110% certain the case. they could have been mulling over the surgery for all we know
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Post#30 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:55 pm

MGrand15 wrote:The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.



Yeah but we don't know the context here really. Harris was probably still feeling discomfort and they could have sent him in for another MRI and it revealed that he's got fragments floating around in his ankle. I remember when DLo slammed his knee onto the court and it was initially diagnosed as a contusion, and then come to find out he had fragments floating around in his knee that required surgery.

Now in regards to Claxton's illness, when asked about it Nic refused to divulge what he got sick with, so it says to me that the player wanted to keep that personal and I can respect that.
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#31 » by MGrand15 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:05 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:The NBA needs to start stepping in with the lack of transparency with injuries and stuff around the league. Too many teams act like this is the CIA or something. Fans just want to be kept up to date. Seems like teams try to put a mysterious cloud around everything until there's a surgery that they can't deny.

It's possible this caught the team off guard but it's not the first time the team acts like nothing is wrong and next you know, player is out for 8 to 10 weeks.



Yeah but we don't know the context here really. Harris was probably still feeling discomfort and they could have sent him in for another MRI and it revealed that he's got fragments floating around in his ankle. I remember when DLo slammed his knee onto the court and it was initially diagnosed as a contusion, and then come to find out he had fragments floating around in his knee that required surgery.

Now in regards to Claxton's illness, when asked about it Nic refused to divulge what he got sick with, so it says to me that the player wanted to keep that personal and I can respect that.


I know we don't know the context but this is nothing new from the Nets. Our timelines are always a mess and it seems like its intentional.

I'm not asking the Nets to divulge STDs or anything crazy :lol:
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Re: Joe Harris To Undergo Ankle Surgery, Out 4-8 Weeks 

Post#32 » by HardenGoat » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:21 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
I'm not asking the Nets to divulge STDs or anything crazy :lol:

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Post#33 » by Claud » Fri Dec 3, 2021 4:31 pm

Sucks, but sadly we are used to having multiple key players missing time. I think we'll be fine.

Another positive is Cam is going to get a serious chance to show his stuff.

I hope he's back around allstar weekend ready for the final push.

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