Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 1.0

sixers4real · Post #221 » by **sixers4real** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 5:19 am

Kobblehead wrote:How many of these dudes taken after Mikal Bridges would you honestly prefer Mikal over?

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Miles Bridges
Michael Porter
Lonnie Walker
Kevin Heurter
Grayson Allen
Anfernee Simons
Devontae Graham
Gary Trent

I'd take Mikal over maybe 2 or 3 guys on that list, at most. And yikes at paying him on average $22.5m over the next four years. Terrible contract for what he gives you on the offensive end.

I’ve read previous posts about Mikal. Yeah, if Mikal would be in our roster, we would be the same team, that’s true.

And I agree, I don’t think paying him $22.5M is good value

76ciology · Post #222 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 7:17 am

Hornets vs Bucks. Thoughts:
- Hornets is a mix of CP3 Clips and 2016-2019 Celtics.
- Miles Bridges reminds me of Blake’s role with the Clips.
- Bucks has a big problem (pun intended) if Brolo does not return. Portis and Giannis frontcourt is good but they need a big who can play with Giannis that could also force opponents to pull their C away from protecting the rim, thus the addition of DMC
- I expect CP3 will be the headcoach of the Hornets around 5 years from now

Semi-OT: our team right now kind of reminds me of the Warriors last season or the season before that. Probably will tank and find our Jordan Poole with Maxey.

Tomjas · Post #223 » by **Tomjas** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 8:01 am

Maxey is tiny and needs lots of physical development before he’s strong enough to ride out the bumps now that teams can play defence again

Embiid P · Post #224 » by **Embiid P** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 8:51 am

Tomjas wrote:

Read on Twitter

Facts. BTW has Shai asked out of town yet?

Tomjas · Post #225 » by **Tomjas** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:01 am

Embiid P wrote:
Tomjas wrote:

Read on Twitter

Facts. BTW has Shai asked out of town yet?

Shai, Giddey, Dort and a bazillion picks is a really good starting point

They could be a very good team this season if Presti pulled the trigger

Kobblehead · Post #226 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 1:18 pm

Ujiri's Raptors are in the basement of their division yet again and Presti's Thunder are a league embarrassment. It's so weird to me that these two get worshipped.

Negrodamus · Post #227 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 2:12 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Ujiri's Raptors are in the basement of their division yet again and Presti's Thunder are a league embarrassment. It's so weird to me that these two get worshipped.

Well, Presti drafted 3 eventual MVPs in the beginning of his stint. He made some wrong choices along the way for that situation, but I quite like their rebuild despite it sucking right now. The tank will only last 2 seasons if they decide to actively pursue playoff pieces to put around SGA and Giddey.

Compared to our insane rebuild, he's done a nice job.

Kobblehead · Post #228 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 2:35 pm

I just really get put off when I see teams with a max player in last place in their division (although technically Shai's max money doesn't kick in until next season).

the_process · Post #229 » by **the_process** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 3:26 pm

Kobblehead wrote:How many of these dudes taken after Mikal Bridges would you honestly prefer Mikal over?

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Miles Bridges
Michael Porter
Lonnie Walker
Kevin Heurter
Grayson Allen
Anfernee Simons
Devontae Graham
Gary Trent

I'd take Mikal over maybe 2 or 3 guys on that list, at most. And yikes at paying him on average $22.5m over the next four years. Terrible contract for what he gives you on the offensive end.

Take Mikal over Porter, Walker, Allen, and Graham. Possibly Trent and Simons too if they continue to waste away.

But I do agree with the point it's not worth worrying about him, even though if Thybulle was scoring 12 a game some here would call him an untouchable All-Star. :lol:

The trade they made was the right thought process. Just sucks they squandered both picks.

76ciology · Post #230 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 6:30 pm

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

Cavs 3 big line up.

Coach nick u read my posts here? :wink:

76ciology · Post #231 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 6:42 pm

I still have Presti as the best GM in the league. Choosing RW over KD and Harden, is his biggest mistake though but he makes a lot of makes than misses.

I find Ujiri to be overrated after the Kawhi deal. I always thought he just rode BC’s roster and was lucky in getting Kawhi. But I like his moves after Kawhi left their squad. OG, Siakam, FVV, Boucher and Barnes are nice finds.

I trust both guys in their eye for talent and paper asset accumulation. Nobody is just perfect but these two are elite IMO.

Currently, I find Rafael Stone as a very promising up and coming GM. I think he’ll be one of the best GMs in the league.

Mitch Kupchak is also flying under the radar, he’s a really good GM that just went through some bad luck with the Lakers. If you listen to Kupchak’s post draft interviews when he was drafting in 2014-ish, you know he knows about talent and where the lead is headed. I like the Hornets squad he is building. I’d compare it to one of those Clint Eastwood films. Blockbuster on a low budget.

Marc Eversley has shown BC fingerprints with his moves being a disciple of BC.

Mik317 · Post #232 » by **Mik317** » Fri Dec 3, 2021 6:49 pm

unless you are out here Billy King-ing yourself...most GMs are fine. A lot of it is luck. Curry having weak ankles, meaning he got a smaller contract is what allowed the Warriors to bring in Iggy and then KD. Kawhii getting traded to the Raptors was also luck because no one thought the Spurs would spite trade him away. Presti's big 3 signings all came after other teams took massive busts prior to his picks. **** is just sometimes up to fate lol. Hell as much as we whine about our past regimes a lot of it came down to the other side of the coin in terms of being "unlucky". So much can change from small points. What if Biid never got hurt ...either time? Would we be here asking if Wiggins can finally put it together or would Embiid playing earlier meant we would "miss" out on Ben and Fultz and have others in their spots.

All you can do it make the best choice in the moment and hope **** doesn't switch up on you asap.

Kobblehead · Post #233 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 12:42 am

Julius Randle - 19.9 ppg
De'Angelo Russell - 18.9 ppg
Brandon Ingram - 21.8 ppg
Shai Alexander - 21.2 ppg Miles Bridges - 19.9 ppg
Lamelo Ball - 20 ppg

Couldn't agree more with Mitch Kupchak being lowkey elite.

76ciology · Post #234 » by **76ciology** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:00 am

Kobblehead wrote:Julius Randle - 19.9 ppg
De'Angelo Russell - 18.9 ppg
Brandon Ingram - 21.8 ppg
Shai Alexander - 21.2 ppg Miles Bridges - 19.9 ppg
Lamelo Ball - 20 ppg

Couldn't agree more with Mitch Kupchak being lowkey elite.

Kobe put their franchise in a really bad position. They need to have a scape goat

DCasey91 · Post #235 » by **DCasey91** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 8:59 am

Last season I thought Garland was a 20/7 classy PG All Star Talent...... would have done the trade from Bum Simmons but yep the Cavs knew what was what.

Gtfo with the Whites and Sextons of the world. Cavs are heading in a much better direction then we are. 2 quality wings and they will leap frog us (they’ll be better than us with or without good wings). Nucleus of something real special

DCasey91 · Post #236 » by **DCasey91** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:14 am

sixers4real wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I don't think people realize how infrequently Mikal Bridges shoots. He's shooting even less than Maxey this year. He offers nothing offensively. Can't dribble and doesn't shoot.

Teammate Jae Crowder is a way better version of that three and D archetype. For one, he actually shoots the ball.

Guy is averaging 12.4 PPG on a .625 TS on a team with the best record on the NBA. For Kobble it’s nothing.

Nah Kobble loves trash 20 ppg scorers who are less valuable than Bridges himself and aren’t actually plus offensive players.. You know guards, whatever, zero defense, losing players.

Also Randle + Barrett is dookie. Such an old archaic archetype being vetoed out.

Surprised he doesn’t think Tobithus is the greatest thing since sliced bread lol

Post #237 » by **Foshan** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:30 am

more shake up in POR... Not sure if that makes them much less likely to make a move, or if this frees them up to move CJ and then blame it on the interm if it doesn't go as planned.

Kobblehead · Post #238 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 12:30 pm

Foshan wrote:more shake up in POR... Not sure if that makes them much less likely to make a move, or if this frees them up to move CJ and then blame it on the interm if it doesn't go as planned.

Maybe Tobias can convert his Harry Potter hardbacks to the Kindle editions so he can make more room in his suitcase for a raincoat.

Kobblehead · Post #239 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 12:49 pm

Mikal Bridges last two games against the Warriors:

30 minutes played, 7 points scored, 1 three attempted, 0 steals, 0 blocks
41 minutes played, 2 points scored, 0 threes attempted, 4 steals, 1 blocks

Very overrated player. Offers nothing offensively. Doesn't space the floor or provide any gravity. Doesn't put the ball on the floor and dribble penetrate. Just a long defensive specialist. A terrible selection in the lottery of a draft and a terrible contract if paying in the $20m+ range.

Kobblehead · Post #240 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 12:55 pm

The Garrison Matthews streak in Houston continues!

Against Chicago: 12 points in a win
Against Charlotte: 20 points in a win
Against OKC: 19 points in a win
Against OKC: 14 points in a win
Against Orlando: 16 points in a win

Maybe Scottie Brooks should have played Garrison Matthews more instead of all those munchkins in our playoff series last year.