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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1021 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:37 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/29/world/omicron-variant-covid



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Moderna says two booster shots for omicron.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-variant-highly-infectious-and-booster-jabs-may-need-double-dose-says-moderna-ceo-12482978


This morning at my cafe I couldn't find a seat that was at least 12 feet from anyone else where the ventilation was good so I'm sitting outside right now having my coffee. It's 55 degrees which is cold weather for Florida, but with a flannel shirt its like being on a picnic.

NOBODY was masked up inside and generally the percentage of masked up people here rarely exceeds 25% of the occupants. Florida is going to be a sitting duck.

I'm not taking any chances with this, because with 15X in the protein spike mutations, this will probably be way more contagious and possibly deadlier.


That sucks. I guess that there was no signage posted saying that you needed to be vaccinated.

I heard that NYC is 90% vaccinated. They said it's because you can get into any business establishment without proving that you've been vaccinated.


You’ll see signs recommending wearing a mask, but no enforcement. Even when there was a mandate locally there were people walking into shops without masks. Cashiers do not tend to confront anyone over compliance and I understand why. Odds are the ones who act this way are also going to be the ones who lose their marbles when asked to do so. With so many people packing heat these days and with illegal weapons proliferating it is becoming riskier to stand up to bad behavior in public. As the kind of person who does that I’m aware now I have to curb those instincts and move past it.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1022 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:34 am

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This morning at my cafe I couldn't find a seat that was at least 12 feet from anyone else where the ventilation was good so I'm sitting outside right now having my coffee. It's 55 degrees which is cold weather for Florida, but with a flannel shirt its like being on a picnic.

NOBODY was masked up inside and generally the percentage of masked up people here rarely exceeds 25% of the occupants. Florida is going to be a sitting duck.

I'm not taking any chances with this, because with 15X in the protein spike mutations, this will probably be way more contagious and possibly deadlier.


That sucks. I guess that there was no signage posted saying that you needed to be vaccinated.

I heard that NYC is 90% vaccinated. They said it's because you can get into any business establishment without proving that you've been vaccinated.


You’ll see signs recommending wearing a mask, but no enforcement. Even when there was a mandate locally there were people walking into shops without masks. Cashiers do not tend to confront anyone over compliance and I understand why. Odds are the ones who act this way are also going to be the ones who lose their marbles when asked to do so. With so many people packing heat these days and with illegal weapons proliferating it is becoming riskier to stand up to bad behavior in public. As the kind of person who does that I’m aware now I have to curb those instincts and move past it.


I was speaking to this otherwise normal looking/sounding guy, who’s married to a seemingly very nice and attractive woman, who I’ve known from the dog park for years. We get to chit-chatting and he tells me that he and his wife are going to Aruba in January and then Italy in May. In response, I raised the specter of international travel bans based on increasing #s and a new, more contagious variant. He said he didn’t think so based on listening to Dr. Oz speak on it recently. I’m thinking to myself, “Okay, this guy is fcking stupid.” He then got distracted with his dog and I walked away. Dr. Oz? :noway:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1023 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:34 am

Meta data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1024 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:54 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Meta data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wut?
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1025 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:23 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
That sucks. I guess that there was no signage posted saying that you needed to be vaccinated.

I heard that NYC is 90% vaccinated. They said it's because you can get into any business establishment without proving that you've been vaccinated.


You’ll see signs recommending wearing a mask, but no enforcement. Even when there was a mandate locally there were people walking into shops without masks. Cashiers do not tend to confront anyone over compliance and I understand why. Odds are the ones who act this way are also going to be the ones who lose their marbles when asked to do so. With so many people packing heat these days and with illegal weapons proliferating it is becoming riskier to stand up to bad behavior in public. As the kind of person who does that I’m aware now I have to curb those instincts and move past it.


I was speaking to this otherwise normal looking/sounding guy, who’s married to a seemingly very nice and attractive woman, who I’ve known from the dog park for years. We get to chit-chatting and he tells me that he and his wife are going to Aruba in January and then Italy in May. In response, I raised the specter of international travel bans based on increasing #s and a new, more contagious variant. He said he didn’t think so based on listening to Dr. Oz speak on it recently. I’m thinking to myself, “Okay, this guy is fcking stupid.” He then got distracted with his dog and I walked away. Dr. Oz? :noway:


Ran into a guy I know at the store. He rejected vaccinations and when he got covid he treated himself with Ivermectin.

I told him him he's a fcking moron. He is and he's used to hearing it so it was not as insulting as it may sound, because he kind of knows he is a fcking moron. He just doesn't care.

and then he told me his wife knew someone whose shoulder where they got their shot had been magnetized. He said his wife swore it was true and they would put metal on this woman's shoulder and it would stick, but it would not stick to the unvaccinated shoulder. I told him him he's a fcking moron a second time.

And then I told him he was like millions of other wackos who actually want medicine and treatments and cures, but they think they know better about the course of treatment so they listen to other looney toons about taking horse dewormer instead of a vaccine. If they really do think they need a treatment then why are they taking medical advice from people who don't know what the hell they're talking about. He had nothing to contribute. He just said it cured him and I said cool, stay healthy.

This is all about creating an alternate reality where you defy the bad guys, i.e. Democrats, Big Pharma, Big Brother who is going to chip you, etc. It has nothing to do with be anti-medicine any longer. It is ideology packaged in a child's lunchbox. If they were truly afraid of the vaccine they'd also be wary of taking Ivermectin, but their reality distortion is turned up to 10 so they end up convincing themselves they are rational.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1026 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:41 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Meta data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wut?


6th comm got their hands on metadata on a letter Clark remitted to Georgia election officials demanding they overturn the results

The data tracks back to the WH

Probably went thru Meadows
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1027 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:28 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Meta data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wut?


6th comm got their hands on metadata on a letter Clark remitted to Georgia election officials demanding they overturn the results

The data tracks back to the WH

Probably went thru Meadows


Makes sense given his the 180 he’s done on cooperating recently.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1028 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:17 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Wut?


6th comm got their hands on metadata on a letter Clark remitted to Georgia election officials demanding they overturn the results

The data tracks back to the WH

Probably went thru Meadows


Makes sense given his the 180 he’s done on cooperating recently.


Probably explaining the timing of this:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-panel-postpones-trump-era-doj-officials-deposition-medical-grounds-2021-12-03/
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1029 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:25 pm

Read on Twitter


Also by Dean:

This information tells me Clark’s letter was known and circulated within the White House, on WHAC’s secure system, and likely sent to others outside the White House who logged on to the secure system. This makes it more likely Trump was aware of it. Clearly it got out of DOJ!
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1030 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:02 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
6th comm got their hands on metadata on a letter Clark remitted to Georgia election officials demanding they overturn the results

The data tracks back to the WH

Probably went thru Meadows


Makes sense given his the 180 he’s done on cooperating recently.


Probably explaining the timing of this:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-panel-postpones-trump-era-doj-officials-deposition-medical-grounds-2021-12-03/


The dragnet is tightening

Clark granted postponement due to doctor's note citing fear-induced psychosomatic illness

In unrelated news, a feel good story about a politician

Read on Twitter
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1031 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:03 pm

No masks in packed cafe this morning. Florida don't care
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1032 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:07 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Makes sense given his the 180 he’s done on cooperating recently.


Probably explaining the timing of this:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-panel-postpones-trump-era-doj-officials-deposition-medical-grounds-2021-12-03/


The dragnet is tightening

Clark granted postponement due to doctor's note citing fear-induced psychosomatic illness

In unrelated news, a feel good story about a politician

Read on Twitter


I bet the donors are pissed. That money is supposed to buy influence, not help people!
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1033 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:16 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:No masks in packed cafe this morning. Florida don't care


Time for some Jordan Klepper-like man-on—the-street interviews from Cafe MAGA? Or inconspicuously set your phone on record and engage them in some conversation.

You: Ya think we ever gonna get rid of Brandon? Can’t wait for Trump to run again for President in ‘22!

Then just sit back and let them provide all the entertainment. Monetize them on YouTube. You have so much comedic product down there.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1034 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:17 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:


The dragnet is tightening

Clark granted postponement due to doctor's note citing fear-induced psychosomatic illness

In unrelated news, a feel good story about a politician

Read on Twitter


I bet the donors are pissed. That money is supposed to buy influence, not help people!


Probably all small donors who don’t care. It’s the DCCC and the DNC that’ll be pissed. .
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1035 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:19 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:No masks in packed cafe this morning. Florida don't care


Time for some Jordan Klepper-like man-on—the-street interviews from Cafe MAGA? Or inconspicuously set your phone on record and engage them in some conversation.

You: Ya think we ever gonna get rid of Brandon? Can’t wait for Trump to run again for President in ‘22!

Then just sit back and let them provide all the entertainment. Monetize them on YouTube. You have so much comedic product down there.


yesterday, some 70 and 80 year old guys at the cafe were outside (where the wind blows and I can take my mask off) talking about somebody in their congregation who refused to vaccinate and then knowingly spread the virus among them after getting covid. They weren't whispering so when I and one of them stood up I said, "you guys get your boosters?" and the guy shot me a mean stare and said "We don't do politics here!" I laughed. Fukem
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1036 » by ScienceOfLosing » Sat Dec 4, 2021 8:32 pm

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ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?

I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years

Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not

Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.


The animal tests with mRNA were all stopped because of two reasons:

1. Animals were dying
2. Animals became dependant on the mRNA for their immunity as their immune systems started failing. We are seeing MANY reports of this out of Israel.

The Pfizer trial runs through May 2023. This is an experiment by definition. Now, if they want to offer people a standard vaccine, I think there would be less resistance and it would most likely work much better as this vaccine is a disaster - from side effects, to deaths, to not stopping transmission of ´ CV to not stopping infection. (Though it certainly seems to lower the death rate CV (at the cost of the preceding.) Any other vaccines fit that bill? That is because this isn't a vaccine. It is an experiment in Spike Protein programming.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1037 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:48 pm

These mofos are joining forces and sharing genetics!

https://www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/omicron-variant-common-cold-transmission-virulence-1.50441969

Omicron possibly more infectious because it shares genetic code with common cold coronavirus, study says.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1038 » by DOT » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:53 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?

I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years

Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not

Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.


The animal tests with mRNA were all stopped because of two reasons:

1. Animals were dying
2. Animals became dependant on the mRNA for their immunity as their immune systems started failing. We are seeing MANY reports of this out of Israel.

The Pfizer trial runs through May 2023. This is an experiment by definition. Now, if they want to offer people a standard vaccine, I think there would be less resistance and it would most likely work much better as this vaccine is a disaster - from side effects, to deaths, to not stopping transmission of ´ CV to not stopping infection. (Though it certainly seems to lower the death rate CV (at the cost of the preceding.) Any other vaccines fit that bill? That is because this isn't a vaccine. It is an experiment in Spike Protein programming.

I don't know what you're talking about, but it just sounds like more whining about not wanting to do the bare minimum to help society

There wouldn't be less resistance because y'all just hate being told what to do. It's a temper tantrum. No matter how safe the vaccine is, y'all are gonna fight it cause y'all have the mindset of children

It's both funny and sad, this whole thing is a great showcase for how effective reverse psychology is.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1039 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:55 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?

I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years

Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not

Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.


The animal tests with mRNA were all stopped because of two reasons:

1. Animals were dying
2. Animals became dependant on the mRNA for their immunity as their immune systems started failing. We are seeing MANY reports of this out of Israel.

The Pfizer trial runs through May 2023. This is an experiment by definition. Now, if they want to offer people a standard vaccine, I think there would be less resistance and it would most likely work much better as this vaccine is a disaster - from side effects, to deaths, to not stopping transmission of ´ CV to not stopping infection. (Though it certainly seems to lower the death rate CV (at the cost of the preceding.) Any other vaccines fit that bill? That is because this isn't a vaccine. It is an experiment in Spike Protein programming.


Better they did nothing I guess. Wait for several years for all the trials to be done. What's a few more million deaths in the scheme of things?
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1040 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:21 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:what are the effects going to be in 5-10 years? We don't know. It is a big experiment and we need to discuss the dangers. I don't see much of that here. Are you guys not worried?

I like how for this train of thought, it never crosses y'all's minds that Covid would have long term effects in 5-10 years

Like, y'all phrase it as no long term effects vs possible long term effects of the vaccine, but it's not

Y'all are more concerned about possible long term effects of a vaccine which underwent actual testing before being distributed than you are about possible long term effects of a virus that we know already kills people and is super contagious.


The animal tests with mRNA were all stopped because of two reasons:

1. Animals were dying
2. Animals became dependant on the mRNA for their immunity as their immune systems started failing. We are seeing MANY reports of this out of Israel.

The Pfizer trial runs through May 2023. This is an experiment by definition. Now, if they want to offer people a standard vaccine, I think there would be less resistance and it would most likely work much better as this vaccine is a disaster - from side effects, to deaths, to not stopping transmission of ´ CV to not stopping infection. (Though it certainly seems to lower the death rate CV (at the cost of the preceding.) Any other vaccines fit that bill? That is because this isn't a vaccine. It is an experiment in Spike Protein programming.


You’re a fool

Way over 90% of covid-related deaths are unvaccinated people

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