OT: Why are Jokic/Doncic fat shamed more than other athletes?

Cubbies2120 · Post #1 » by **Cubbies2120** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:06 am

For example, Doncic and Jokic - both are a little on heavier side (though Jokic seems to be coming into seasons in a little better shape than before, ex. last season he came in really good shape). But when players like Lowry were on the heavier side, it's referred to in a way different light (seen posters calling him "thick", "chunky", etc.).

The last NBA player I remember being criticized as much as these two for their weight was Shaq. In other sports there are plenty of heavier athletes (football, golf, poker, e-Sports), but their weight is never being called into question.

It can't be the results that they're producing, because Jokic is absolutely SHATTERING the single season PER record, and leading the league in a bunch of advanced metrics. So, unless people are implying that if he lost some body fat %, he'd be far and away the GOAT, I don't see what the use is in criticizing an MVP for his appearance.

So, what's the reason for criticizing them if they still produce?

spacemonkey · Post #2 » by **spacemonkey** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:07 am

Every week there is a new thread about Zion being fat. Harden has been called out of shape constantly this season.

Devilanche · Post #3 » by **Devilanche** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:08 am

Cause you can’t criticise other aspect of their game as much and honestly they are on a different level in terms of player performance over Lowry . Undisputed number one option who could be MVP

Bornstellar · Post #4 » by **Bornstellar** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:08 am

Zion is probably the most "fat shamed" athlete right now, by a lot imo

DroseReturnChi · Post #5 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:10 am

spacemonkey wrote:Every week there is a new thread about Zion being fat. Harden has been called out of shape constantly this season.

comparing jokic/doncic to zion is insane. they are just little unfit needing 1 week adjustment but zion is not a pros body hes a monster he needs fat removal surgery.

Cubbies2120 · Post #6 » by **Cubbies2120** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:13 am

spacemonkey wrote:Every week there is a new thread about Zion being fat. Harden has been called out of shape constantly this season.

Fair point about Zion, but he's not just a "little on the heavier" side at this time, though that's not entirely his fault (injury can't help with weight management).

Jokic and Doncic are much leaner but still called fat.

Pennebaker · Post #7 » by **Pennebaker** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:14 am

They're fat shamed as much as James Harden and Chris Paul.

They're elite players that look soft in terms of muscle definition and so they get fat shamed. It's not a big mystery.

payton2kemp · Post #8 » by **payton2kemp** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:15 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:For example, Doncic and Jokic - both are a little on heavier side (though Jokic seems to be coming into seasons in a little better shape than before, ex. last season he came in really good shape). But when players like Lowry were on the heavier side, it's referred to in a way different light (seen posters calling him "thick", "chunky", etc.).

The last NBA player I remember being criticized as much as these two for their weight was Shaq. In other sports there are plenty of heavier athletes (football, golf, poker, e-Sports), but their weight is never being called into question.

It can't be the results that they're producing, because Jokic is absolutely SHATTERING the single season PER record, and leading the league in a bunch of advanced metrics. So, unless people are implying that if he lost some body fat %, he'd be far and away the GOAT, I don't see what the use is in criticizing an MVP for his appearance.

So, what's the reason for criticizing them if they still produce?

Have you read realgm? its in your head. Harden is always made fun for his weight and Zion gotta be the number 1 guy that gets picked on. Haven't heard anyone fat shaming Jokic recently, under than that pictures of him in his younger days where he was pretty chubby.

Cubbies2120 · Post #9 » by **Cubbies2120** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:15 am

Pennebaker wrote:They're fat shamed as much as James Harden and Chris Paul.

They're elite players that look soft and so they get fat shamed. It's not a big mystery.

I honestly haven't seen CP3 fat shamed here. Harden yes

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #10 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:25 am

NRSV · Post #11 » by **NRSV** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:25 am

White people don’t show definition as well.

giannis and 1 · Post #12 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:29 am

SUPERVILLAIN wrote:

Is this photoshopped or not?

theforumblue · Post #13 » by **theforumblue** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:45 am

Fat shaming happens when the chunkiness is believed to keep the player from realizing their potential. Jokic and doncic both did have conditioning issues. Harden's far shaming didn't really start til last year because it obviously affected him. I don't know if lowry's chonk really affected his play.

Lockdown504090 · Post #14 » by **Lockdown504090** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:50 am

harden, embiid, zion, lowry all get it just as much

Lockdown504090 · Post #15 » by **Lockdown504090** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:51 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
SUPERVILLAIN wrote:

Is this photoshopped or not?

you may need widescreen for this one

Watch on YouTube

Tottery · Post #16 » by **Tottery** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:56 am

Zion gets the most smack talk.

Post #17 » by **KingDavid** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:59 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:For example, Doncic and Jokic - both are a little on heavier side (though Jokic seems to be coming into seasons in a little better shape than before, ex. last season he came in really good shape). But when players like Lowry were on the heavier side, it's referred to in a way different light (seen posters calling him "thick", "chunky", etc.).

The last NBA player I remember being criticized as much as these two for their weight was Shaq. In other sports there are plenty of heavier athletes (football, golf, poker, e-Sports), but their weight is never being called into question.

It can't be the results that they're producing, because Jokic is absolutely SHATTERING the single season PER record, and leading the league in a bunch of advanced metrics. So, unless people are implying that if he lost some body fat %, he'd be far and away the GOAT, I don't see what the use is in criticizing an MVP for his appearance.

So, what's the reason for criticizing them if they still produce?

You're experiencing wicked confirmation bias.

JN61 · Post #18 » by **JN61** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:01 am

Bornstellar wrote:Zion is probably the most "fat shamed" athlete right now, by a lot imo

Because he is actually fat. Doncic isn't.

Sofia · Post #19 » by **Sofia** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:20 am

Zion so fat they took his media day photos from a helicopter

NRSV · Post #20 » by **NRSV** » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:26 am

I have a “slow” metabolism and pack on weight like a MF if I’m sedentary. 30 mins of moderate cardio a day keeps this at bay and I can still eat like trash.

I have no idea what these pudgy NBA players are doing dietarily if that level of intense exercise + practice can’t get them shredded.