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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1121 » by drsd » Fri Dec 3, 2021 11:50 am

pepe1991 wrote:I thought last season was disaster but this is most boring season since 2013.
Franz in role of Harris, Wendell in role of Vuc, Mo Wagner in role of Nicholson, we just need somebody to mimic Hedo and take steroids.

Forum is empty 25 games into a season, in past at least people were at least arguing about some dumb stuff, nowdays not even that. Just nothing.



It is enlightening how excited we all are from the Denver win (the second half in particular was entertaining). Orlando stringing wins together is not boring. So: just win.


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Post#1122 » by Magic_Kingdom » Fri Dec 3, 2021 2:12 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:I thought last season was disaster but this is most boring season since 2013.
Franz in role of Harris, Wendell in role of Vuc, Mo Wagner in role of Nicholson, we just need somebody to mimic Hedo and take steroids.

Forum is empty 25 games into a season, in past at least people were at least arguing about some dumb stuff, nowdays not even that. Just nothing.



It is enlightening how excited we all are from the Denver win (the second half in particular was entertaining). Orlando stringing wins together is not boring. So: just win.


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Rooting for player development while management actively tries to lose is fun for about 20 games max.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1123 » by Skybox » Fri Dec 3, 2021 6:30 pm

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drsd wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I thought last season was disaster but this is most boring season since 2013.
Franz in role of Harris, Wendell in role of Vuc, Mo Wagner in role of Nicholson, we just need somebody to mimic Hedo and take steroids.

Forum is empty 25 games into a season, in past at least people were at least arguing about some dumb stuff, nowdays not even that. Just nothing.



It is enlightening how excited we all are from the Denver win (the second half in particular was entertaining). Orlando stringing wins together is not boring. So: just win.


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Rooting for player development while management actively tries to lose is fun for about 20 games max.


Nothing's fun without a conspiracy theory these days :crazy: ...they're just not very good yet, but sometimes things click and we should enjoy those moments of possibility.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1124 » by MagicTownBaller » Fri Dec 3, 2021 7:38 pm

Portland just fired their GM, they can have ours. Bring on somebody new with an actual vision.
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Post#1125 » by zaymon » Fri Dec 3, 2021 8:46 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:Portland just fired their GM, they can have ours. Bring on somebody new with an actual vision.


Well our front office has a vision thats why we made moves at the deadline.
Making moves for making moves is what Rosas did in Minnesota. A lot of people here were saying he is great and we should do the same.
I find it funny that Scott Perry is rumoured to be the candidate. He has to be one of the worst gms out there
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Post#1126 » by SOUL » Fri Dec 3, 2021 9:31 pm

We should trade all our young guys for Vuc and Fournier
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Post#1127 » by cedric76 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:58 am

I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1128 » by drsd » Sat Dec 4, 2021 11:08 am

SOUL wrote:We should trade all our young guys for Vuc and Fournier



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Post#1129 » by drsd » Sat Dec 4, 2021 11:09 am

cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross



There is a lot to like about the roster on paper, but there are major, major questions on the rotation. Notably at the PG and PF slots: who starts?

Also: A ten-man rotation might leave little court time for Hampton and Okeke. That is not good.

Trades need to be made when Fultz and Isaac are healthy to resolve some of these conflicts.



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Post#1130 » by KokoKaizer » Sat Dec 4, 2021 12:32 pm

drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross



There is a lot to like about the roster on paper, but there are major, major questions on the rotation. Notably at the PG and PF slots: who starts?

Also: A ten-man rotation might leave little court time for Hampton and Okeke. That is not good.

Trades need to be made when Fultz and Isaac are healthy to resolve some of these conflicts.



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That's a big question mark right here
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Post#1131 » by Knightro » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:32 pm

cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross


So Cole is going to go from 35 MPG and a 26.5 USG% to backup SG?

Good luck with that!
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1132 » by Magic_Kingdom » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:50 pm

drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross



There is a lot to like about the roster on paper, but there are major, major questions on the rotation. Notably at the PG and PF slots: who starts?

Also: A ten-man rotation might leave little court time for Hampton and Okeke. That is not good.

Trades need to be made when Fultz and Isaac are healthy to resolve some of these conflicts.
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It seems that by the end of this season they will know who stays and who goes. There is zero percent chance they keep all these young players. The roster is poorly balanced in terms of position, age, experience. I can't imagine next year's team includes Fultz, Suggs and Anthony. One of them will be gone. And with Franz's development, Okeke is not making a strong case for himself to stay. Weltman stayed with Vuc, Fournier and Gordon too long -- he can't make the same mistake with this group. If they aren't core pieces, move on.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1133 » by Skybox » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:29 pm

Knightro wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross


So Cole is going to go from 35 MPG and a 26.5 USG% to backup SG?

Good luck with that!


We should be thrilled if this becomes a problem for ORL...too much talent. Right now, Fultz will have a LOT to prove to be relevant on this roster...I really hope he does. We can run some 3 guard experimental lineups...it's been done somewhat successfully and always fun to watch. There are certainly minutes for 3 guards but pecking order IS important and not to be taken lightly...the one guy out of the conversation (for me) is RJ. Even with, what 5 point guards out (?), he couldn't grab a relevant role.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1134 » by zaymon » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:45 pm

Skybox wrote:
Knightro wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross


So Cole is going to go from 35 MPG and a 26.5 USG% to backup SG?

Good luck with that!


We should be thrilled if this becomes a problem for ORL...too much talent. Right now, Fultz will have a LOT to prove to be relevant on this roster...I really hope he does. We can run some 3 guard experimental lineups...it's been done somewhat successfully and always fun to watch. There are certainly minutes for 3 guards but pecking order IS important and not to be taken lightly...the one guy out of the conversation (for me) is RJ. Even with, what 5 point guards out (?), he couldn't grab a relevant role.


I hope we will experiment with bigger lineups when Isaac returns. Its funny that our guards apart from being small are also questionable shooters. I dont see much benefit going small. Some of our guards should be traded not given more time imo.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1135 » by cedric76 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:29 pm

Knightro wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross


So Cole is going to go from 35 MPG and a 26.5 USG% to backup SG?

Good luck with that!


Cole is a perfect 6 man, instant spark from the bench, and he can play sg next to fultz

He can still get his 30 min per page.

Important is who finishes the games not who starts them
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1136 » by cedric76 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:30 pm

drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross



There is a lot to like about the roster on paper, but there are major, major questions on the rotation. Notably at the PG and PF slots: who starts?

Also: A ten-man rotation might leave little court time for Hampton and Okeke. That is not good.

Trades need to be made when Fultz and Isaac are healthy to resolve some of these conflicts.



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Easy
Pg:Fultz
Pf: JI
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1137 » by Skybox » Sat Dec 4, 2021 11:27 pm

drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross



There is a lot to like about the roster on paper, but there are major, major questions on the rotation. Notably at the PG and PF slots: who starts?

Also: A ten-man rotation might leave little court time for Hampton and Okeke. That is not good.

Trades need to be made when Fultz and Isaac are healthy to resolve some of these conflicts.



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I wonder if RJ Hampton could bring back a Nesmith or Kispert? Somebody we might truly expect to be a bigger body with likely 40% 3pt shooting at higher volume. I know (last time I looked) that RJ had a higher 3pt% than both of them, but I'm still betting on them in the long run (as spot up shooters). I have hopes for RJ but just not sure he'll have a spot.
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Post#1138 » by tiderulz » Sun Dec 5, 2021 3:05 am

Skybox wrote:
drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:I love how our team is built

Once fultz and ji will be back, we ll be a great 2 way team

Kelle, suggs
Suggs, cole
Franz, chuma
Ji, wcj
Wcj, mo

Guard rotation: kelle, suggs, cole
Sf rotation:franz, chuma
Pf/c rotation:ji, wcj, mo

Ross has to be traded for expiering + assets
Harris - see ross



There is a lot to like about the roster on paper, but there are major, major questions on the rotation. Notably at the PG and PF slots: who starts?

Also: A ten-man rotation might leave little court time for Hampton and Okeke. That is not good.

Trades need to be made when Fultz and Isaac are healthy to resolve some of these conflicts.



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I wonder if RJ Hampton could bring back a Nesmith or Kispert? Somebody we might truly expect to be a bigger body with likely 40% 3pt shooting at higher volume. I know (last time I looked) that RJ had a higher 3pt% than both of them, but I'm still betting on them in the long run (as spot up shooters). I have hopes for RJ but just not sure he'll have a spot.

Kispert shooting 20% from 3. might be having an issue playing against better athletes in the NBA
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0 

Post#1139 » by Knightro » Sun Dec 5, 2021 4:56 am

I'm not looking to unload any young guys just yet.

I'd absolutely be looking to move Ross as soon as possible though. He's been absolutely horrible.
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Post#1140 » by Magic_Kingdom » Sun Dec 5, 2021 2:06 pm

Is anyone excited about the projected top picks in this draft? I definitely don't want Holmgren.

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