Apparently Lillard wants to be traded to the NY team with 4 point guards

[DaGawd]

Don’t think any knick fan wants dame at what it would cost either….

If Portland doesn’t want to start over and basically swap lillard for randle and some other stuff I and most other knick fans would do it. Otherwise, I hope the knicks don’t gut the roster to pair lillard and randle with nothing left .

And I doubt Portland is dumb enough to deal lillard for randle

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I’d sign up for the Lillard treadmill over the weak young core/assets treadmill we currently doing.. At least having Dame might attract other stars to might wanna come play with him under the bright lights at MSG. He has that kind of pull

You are saying that now, 3 years from now when they still haven’t passed the 2nd round you will roast him like we did melo. Lillard isn’t that dude just like melo wasn’t that dude. Learn from your mistakes


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I understand that but realistically.. where is this current Knick team going? Headed for another mid/late lottery pick where we pick yet another non factor? I’m just tired of the bland nature of this teams future/roster

[Ctownbulls]

First off this is from Stephen A Smith, who's a Knicks fan. So take it with a grain of salt.

And obviously if the Knicks acquired Dame they would give him the keys and move some of the other PGs.

And the Knicks are not a treadmill team. They were awful for a while, now they're good and competitive. So they're a team that's trending in the right direction, not stuck in one place.

They're currently 11-12, my guy, with a 5-8 record at home this season. I don't know what direction that is but it does not sound like the "right direction" to me.

Considering the decade before last season, the management changes, the hard nosed playoff run last year, a .500 team this year (only 1/4 through the season) it's really hard to argue they are not trending in the right direction as a franchise.

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[KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127]

First off this is from Stephen A Smith, who's a Knicks fan. So take it with a grain of salt.

And obviously if the Knicks acquired Dame they would give him the keys and move some of the other PGs.

And the Knicks are not a treadmill team. They were awful for a while, now they're good and competitive. So they're a team that's trending in the right direction, not stuck in one place.

The Knicks are not trending in the right direction. They’re in the same place they’ve been forever. No number 1 and pieces that aren’t showing they can be a number 1.

Randle likes to act like a Number 1 but when the games on the line he does his 5 on 1 routine and either takes a horrible shot or turns it over. Randle at best should be a 3rd option. Barrett is too inconsistent and will go entire halves without scoring.

[HotShots]

Steven A Smith… not gonna be sweating this one…

Isn’t this the same guy that said KD and Kyrie were going to sign with the Knicks?

[QingJames]

First off this is from Stephen A Smith, who's a Knicks fan. So take it with a grain of salt.

And obviously if the Knicks acquired Dame they would give him the keys and move some of the other PGs.

And the Knicks are not a treadmill team. They were awful for a while, now they're good and competitive. So they're a team that's trending in the right direction, not stuck in one place.

They're currently 11-12, my guy, with a 5-8 record at home this season. I don't know what direction that is but it does not sound like the "right direction" to me.

Considering the decade before last season, the management changes, the hard nosed playoff run last year, a .500 team this year (only 1/4 through the season) it's really hard to argue they are not trending in the right direction as a franchise.

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The hard nosed playoff run? They were pathetic in the playoffs…

They are making better moves than they have been. Gutting the team for Dame would be the ultimate Knicks move and I hope for the sake of the fans that they don’t do it.

[monopoman]

Stephen A has been dreaming of Lillard in a Knicks jersey for at least 3 years, no way in hell is this coming from Lillard himself.

He has come out multiple times in the past talking about how Lillard should be a Knick.

[MrBigShot]

The Blazers score 109ppg and give up 110 ppg this season, and a whopping 1.5 games separates them (9th seed) from the 4th seed. If Dame was healthy and not having possibly his worst season ever, they'd actually be a pretty good team. Not contenders obviously, but I can't see Dame asking out just yet.

[DusterBuster]

They are making better moves than they have been. Gutting the team for Dame would be the ultimate Knicks move and I hope for the sake of the fans that they don’t do it.

That is such a small minded team mentality, and before you get upset, I say that as someone who’s made this exact argument before.

If you have a chance at a top 10 player, you should always pull out all the stops to get them if you can get them without giving up your other best player. Gutting a team can be fixed with FA signing, which are easier with stars.

[QingJames]

They are making better moves than they have been. Gutting the team for Dame would be the ultimate Knicks move and I hope for the sake of the fans that they don’t do it.

That is such a small minded team mentality, and before you get upset, I say that as someone who’s made this exact argument before.

If you have a chance at a top 10 player, you should always pull out all the stops to get them if you can get them without giving up your other best player. Gutting a team can be fixed with FA signing, which are easier with stars.

I don't disagree but Lillard is clearly not a top 10 player. It's not as though the Knicks have a better supporting cast than Portland, and we've seen that squad struggle in the postseason in spite of Dame's efforts.

[monopoman]

They are making better moves than they have been. Gutting the team for Dame would be the ultimate Knicks move and I hope for the sake of the fans that they don’t do it.

That is such a small minded team mentality, and before you get upset, I say that as someone who’s made this exact argument before.

If you have a chance at a top 10 player, you should always pull out all the stops to get them if you can get them without giving up your other best player. Gutting a team can be fixed with FA signing, which are easier with stars.

I don't disagree but Lillard is clearly not a top 10 player. It's not as though the Knicks have a better supporting cast than Portland, and we've seen that squad struggle in the postseason in spite of Dame's efforts.

There is many that would put Lillard in top 10 player category, just because you don't doesn't mean it's true. This season with his rough start playing through injury? He is clearly not, last year I think he was he was willing the team to a lot of great wins when both Nurk and CJ were injured.

Very few players can do what Lillard did over a 20ish game stretch where both CJ and Nurk could not play.

[QingJames]

That is such a small minded team mentality, and before you get upset, I say that as someone who’s made this exact argument before.

If you have a chance at a top 10 player, you should always pull out all the stops to get them if you can get them without giving up your other best player. Gutting a team can be fixed with FA signing, which are easier with stars.

I don't disagree but Lillard is clearly not a top 10 player. It's not as though the Knicks have a better supporting cast than Portland, and we've seen that squad struggle in the postseason in spite of Dame's efforts.

There is many that would put Lillard in top 10 player category, just because you don't doesn't mean it's true. This season with his rough start playing through injury? He is clearly not, last year I think he was he was willing the team to a lot of great wins when both Nurk and CJ were injured.

Very few players can do what Lillard did over a 20ish game stretch where both CJ and Nurk could not play.

I'm sorry but Dame's negative impact on the defensive end definitely precludes him from being in the top 10. He's a great player and easily one of the 5 best scorers in the league, but he's bad on defense and his team suffers for it.

[monopoman]

Funny that 7 or so times out of 10 when I see people claim Dame is overrated it comes from Raptor fans.

No fan base of one team seems to think less of Dame than that one.

[Liver_Pooty]

First off this is from Stephen A Smith, who's a Knicks fan. So take it with a grain of salt.

And obviously if the Knicks acquired Dame they would give him the keys and move some of the other PGs.

And the Knicks are not a treadmill team. They were awful for a while, now they're good and competitive. So they're a team that's trending in the right direction, not stuck in one place.

They're currently 11-12, my guy, with a 5-8 record at home this season. I don't know what direction that is but it does not sound like the "right direction" to me.

They're 3 games out of 3rd place. East is a cluster. They were the butt of everyone's jokes for a decade. Now they are competent and competitive. Also I don't actually think I'm your guy.

Lol

[JDR720]

The Knicks don't have the assets to get him, so it doesn't really matter if Lillard wants to go there or not.

The Knicks poor drafting is coming to bite them, both in their ability to make trades for star players and there roster being pretty mediocre in general.

[QingJames]

Funny that 7 or so times out of 10 when I see people claim Dame is overrated it comes from Raptor fans.

No fan base of one team seems to think less of Dame than that one.

I think highly of Dame. I don't think he's overrated. He's a top 15 guy in the league, but we're talking top 10 players here. Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Giannis, Durant, LeBron, Kawhi (when healthy), AD, Butler, PG13 all exist. Players who either perform well on both sides of the court or are just plain better than Lillard on offense. Actually in really thinking about it I think he would probably be 11-13 with Harden and Doncic.

[monopoman]

Funny that 7 or so times out of 10 when I see people claim Dame is overrated it comes from Raptor fans.

No fan base of one team seems to think less of Dame than that one.

I think highly of Dame. I don't think he's overrated. He's a top 15 guy in the league, but we're talking top 10 players here. Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Giannis, Durant, LeBron, Kawhi (when healthy), AD, Butler, PG13 all exist. Players who either perform well on both sides of the court or are just plain better than Lillard on offense. Actually in really thinking about it I think he would probably be 11-13 with Harden and Doncic.

Yeah, PG13 so good he and Westbrook couldn't beat Lillard in the 1st round, and to top it off they only won a single game out of 5. AD is also massively overrated these days, his claim to fame is one championship run he has looked pretty damn bad since then.

[PhilBlackson]

Just a few thoughts on it...

1. I for one don't hate on Stephen A because I find him to be like a bad comedy, he's just mildly funny for the wrong reasons but his job is a sports entertainer and that's what he does and clearly well because he's still the biggest name doing it BUT someone needs to tell me when he's been right about rumors?! If he has it has to be rare but he's the same dude who proclaimed KD/Kyrie to Knicks was a done deal.....sooo there's that and again a lot of what he says and does is for ENTERTAINMENT, gain eyes and ears for his network/pay check

2. I don't like it for POR unless there is many picks over many years because then it will inevitably payoff when the Knicks eventually bomb again. But right now, getting back Barrett and bunch of bloated contracts aren't that enticing if I'm POR ownership, no real marquee young player to sell the fans on.

3. Believe it or not if I'm the Knicks I would seriously consider it. It won't lead to a championship but neither will what they're doing now. Dame would just make the ride a bit more entertaining I'm sure he'll draw a FA. Not saying it will be a MVP caliber player, maybe it's just another all-star type but I just think having legitimate stars builds the brand up. Don't compare it to Melo, there was nothing wrong with that in theory but that Amare's body couldn't hold up. The Knicks for a hot second looked like they had the potential to be a top team in the East when Amare was still healthy but it didn't hold up and it all folded like a deck of cards but had he been able to that probably would've been one of the best time periods for the franchise but such is life..

I think Dame could do as Melo did and draw another "bigger" name to the Knicks, as long as it's not another injury prone player, I think MSG would be bumpin like never before, might as well enjoy the good times and it could actually help start shifting the narrative of great players wanting to go there BUT I get it if Knicks fans want to see things build organically, as fan of franchise that did something like that despite the rollercoaster of ups n downs, it's fun watching your players grow up and you have them for longer, just overall I don't mind it for the Knicks and for POR the only thing that would make it worth it imo isn't Barrett, IQ etc, it's a long list of picks.

[dk1115]

Just saying, but his contract is pretty hard to move especially with the way he's playing.

But then again, Russ got moved 3 times in 3 years... so...

[QingJames]

Funny that 7 or so times out of 10 when I see people claim Dame is overrated it comes from Raptor fans.

No fan base of one team seems to think less of Dame than that one.

I think highly of Dame. I don't think he's overrated. He's a top 15 guy in the league, but we're talking top 10 players here. Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Giannis, Durant, LeBron, Kawhi (when healthy), AD, Butler, PG13 all exist. Players who either perform well on both sides of the court or are just plain better than Lillard on offense. Actually in really thinking about it I think he would probably be 11-13 with Harden and Doncic.

Yeah, PG13 so good he and Westbrook couldn't beat Lillard in the 1st round, and to top it off they only won a single game out of 5. AD is also massively overrated these days, his claim to fame is one championship run he has looked pretty damn bad since then.

AD has been pretty good this year. He's scoring more than Lillard and obviously there's no competition between them on the other end. PG13 showed out in the postseason last year. Like, are you really telling me with a straight face Lillard is a better defender than Paul George? Or that he's SO much better on the other end that it cancels it out? Come on now.

[The High Cyde]

OT but I was watching the 2016 Manny Pacquiao - Jesse Vargas fight on YouTube and Stephen A was a commentator for the fight…he got like every round wrong and the other commentators were like “Really?” Lmao he’s only on TV to sell ratings, that’s it.