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robillionaire wrote:Maybe we will get lucky and omicron shuts down the season so we can not have to watch this trash anymore and also get a top 10 pick
bearadonisdna wrote:Right now I go not think the results equal the sum of the parts.
Even staunch NYK naysayers admitted and projected this is a 2nd round team .
Where is 2nd round team ?
bearadonisdna wrote:If your the GM of this team who’s fault is this?
Yours or the coaches ?
bearadonisdna wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:F N 11 wrote:Great post, everything we did was to keep riding the wave from last year instead of making real moves.
I just don't understand how we couldn't even swing a trade for Rubio. I'd kill for Rubio to run the show and not just bc he torched us. He's always been a wizard with the basketball.
Rubio works because he can still play the position at an elite level .
If that is what you really want . A real point guard not a savior .
He did that same exact thing last year with the Rangers and while they were making strides and performing, but fired everyone because they came short on a rebuilding team which was a successful for us. Fired the best front office because Sather wanted them in the playoffs.Jimmit79 wrote:It's Knicks tradition to give FO one more leash before Dolan snaps his finger.DaGawd wrote:Firing Thibs ain’t the answer.. I understand if we had dudes like KD and Harden on the roster and was performing like this but nah… this is clearly a talent issue. Randle should never be asked to be your franchise player. Only issue is we don’t have any one better than him….
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KnixtapeH20 wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:I just don't understand how we couldn't even swing a trade for Rubio. I'd kill for Rubio to run the show and not just bc he torched us. He's always been a wizard with the basketball.
Rubio works because he can still play the position at an elite level .
If that is what you really want . A real point guard not a savior .
Lol Rubio prolly would be a savior bc he would get this offense so many easy looks, Randle and RJ in particular who need a point guard in the worst way.
Just watching Jokic yesterday his vision and passing is unreal.
Adelheid wrote:
Its like Thibs is saying that RJ has gone lazy with practicing...
And all this time I have this belief that he is a gym rat.
thebuzzardman wrote:Capn'O wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
I wouldn't say it's regression. It's that he's basically the same player as last year, which was improvement over a fairly bad rookie season.
It's disappointing because he didn't magically unlock another level he was never going to get to anyway.
His efficiency is way down this year. Under 50% TS. I'm in panic mode on him.
I don't look at stats. I just see he's the same player that sometimes gets hot from 3. Or not. And struggles to drive that ball unless it's transition or a mismatch, and can't finish that well around the rim, see prior phrase.
He's just an unfortunate combination of not athletic/fast enough and not talented enough to make up for it.
It is what it is.
I mean, if LFT was faster, quicker, had a better handle and more skills, he had have been excellent.
But nature didn't grant those gifts, so he wasn't.
Same for RJ.
HarthorneWingo wrote:Adelheid wrote:
Its like Thibs is saying that RJ has gone lazy with practicing...
And all this time I have this belief that he is a gym rat.
Thibs obviously thinks that RJ is slacking off.
When the sellout streaks end that's when Dolan cares. Inposted earlier but if you look at every Knicks.move in light of selling tickets it makes sense. Whwn you look at them in light of.winning a xhampionship it's insanity.HarthorneWingo wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:That isn't true. Sellout streaks ended in 2015 and 2017. We had regime changes shortly after.HarthorneWingo wrote:
The Garden is sold out even when we win 23 games. There’s no correlation there.
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Maybe your right bc I didn’t check the numbers but the Knicks don’t lose money. We don’t have to worry about putting fans in the seats even in during our worst seasons.it’s the Mecca.
Come buy tickets to msg where you can see if last year's Knicks can duplicate their success!dakomish23 wrote:Buttah304 wrote:Imagine bringing back Nerlens Noel on a 3 year deal only to see him average 4.0 PPG getting 25min a night. Leon Rose is actually hilarious.
Made no sense then and makes less sense now.
Scott Perry is just a figure head. They already overrode him with Fournier over DeRozan. He just does the grunt work while Wes and Rose do the dealmaking.KnixtapeH20 wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:If your the GM of this team who’s fault is this?
Yours or the coaches ?
Ok I just realized what you said lmao read it wrong at first.
Scott Perry would have to shatter every mirror he owns for him to not place the blame on himself.
mpharris36 wrote:I don't know why it bothered me so much but thibs playing randle basically all 4th qtr in a blowout to get his stats vs 3rd stringers pissed me off.
You got blown out dude...trying to save face.
K-DOT wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:K-DOT wrote:Well, kind of
Lot of fans are too impatient. Just look in here seeing guys sh*tting on RJ not even halfway through year 3. And yeah, odds are he isn't gonna be the guy for us, but he's shown that he could be a really good player
If we don't draft a guy who's a star from day 1, fans aren't patient enough to wait a few years before declaring them a bust.
We wouldn't sh*t on him if he was any good. He's really not.
He's "ok".
I mean, that's fine if he was drafted 20th.
He was drafted 3rd.
It's a setback.
Not as bad a setback as completely whiffing with Frank and Knox, but it's pretty unfortunate coming on the heels of that.
Yeah, I mean 11/4/1.3 on 40/25/62 in his 3rd year is just dreadful
Oh wait, that was Jaylen Brown's first 20 games his 3rd year
RJ's so much worse, just 14/6/2 on 40/31/70 splits... wait a second
He's having a bad year yeah, but y'all are obnoxiously excessive about it. And y'all pretend like he doesn't show flashes, but he does. He's inconsistent (meaning bad right now) but I don't know why y'all are like, so ready to sh*t on draft picks. It's like y'all want them to be bad
I'm fine with people saying he's regressed, cause he has so far, but god damn are y'all just excessively pessimistic about everything. It's like a fetish for you people, you want the Knicks to be bad so you can go "woe is me, I'm such a suffering Knicks fan" and have people pity you. He'll be fine, it'd be one thing if he had looked like this the whole time, but last year he looked pretty good, so it's clear he does have some potential
It's just so annoying that whenever RJ misses a shot, the next page and a half of any game thread is unreadable. Y'all give up on guys at every little setback, it's absurd. Nobody's allowed any time to be bad but show flashes, if you're not a star day one, half the fanbase is gonna want you gone. And that's why you can't rebuild in New York.
god shammgod wrote:K-DOT wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
We wouldn't sh*t on him if he was any good. He's really not.
He's "ok".
I mean, that's fine if he was drafted 20th.
He was drafted 3rd.
It's a setback.
Not as bad a setback as completely whiffing with Frank and Knox, but it's pretty unfortunate coming on the heels of that.
Yeah, I mean 11/4/1.3 on 40/25/62 in his 3rd year is just dreadful
Oh wait, that was Jaylen Brown's first 20 games his 3rd year
RJ's so much worse, just 14/6/2 on 40/31/70 splits... wait a second
He's having a bad year yeah, but y'all are obnoxiously excessive about it. And y'all pretend like he doesn't show flashes, but he does. He's inconsistent (meaning bad right now) but I don't know why y'all are like, so ready to sh*t on draft picks. It's like y'all want them to be bad
I'm fine with people saying he's regressed, cause he has so far, but god damn are y'all just excessively pessimistic about everything. It's like a fetish for you people, you want the Knicks to be bad so you can go "woe is me, I'm such a suffering Knicks fan" and have people pity you. He'll be fine, it'd be one thing if he had looked like this the whole time, but last year he looked pretty good, so it's clear he does have some potential
It's just so annoying that whenever RJ misses a shot, the next page and a half of any game thread is unreadable. Y'all give up on guys at every little setback, it's absurd. Nobody's allowed any time to be bad but show flashes, if you're not a star day one, half the fanbase is gonna want you gone. And that's why you can't rebuild in New York.
i don't really want to talk about rj. but for every guy who started year 3 bad and became sort of a star, there's 4 guys who didn't. what you're basically saying is "because this 1 guy did it, it's possible rj can do it". well sure. it'd still be possible if nobody had ever done it. it just doesn't seem likely.
but i do agree that this place has become sort of a toxic soup of agendas and overreactions to every play. it honestly is annoying at this point. the game threads are getting pretty bad. i don't know why it has gotten this bad but it has.
Reign23 wrote:K-DOT wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
We wouldn't sh*t on him if he was any good. He's really not.
He's "ok".
I mean, that's fine if he was drafted 20th.
He was drafted 3rd.
It's a setback.
Not as bad a setback as completely whiffing with Frank and Knox, but it's pretty unfortunate coming on the heels of that.
Yeah, I mean 11/4/1.3 on 40/25/62 in his 3rd year is just dreadful
Oh wait, that was Jaylen Brown's first 20 games his 3rd year
RJ's so much worse, just 14/6/2 on 40/31/70 splits... wait a second
He's having a bad year yeah, but y'all are obnoxiously excessive about it. And y'all pretend like he doesn't show flashes, but he does. He's inconsistent (meaning bad right now) but I don't know why y'all are like, so ready to sh*t on draft picks. It's like y'all want them to be bad
I'm fine with people saying he's regressed, cause he has so far, but god damn are y'all just excessively pessimistic about everything. It's like a fetish for you people, you want the Knicks to be bad so you can go "woe is me, I'm such a suffering Knicks fan" and have people pity you. He'll be fine, it'd be one thing if he had looked like this the whole time, but last year he looked pretty good, so it's clear he does have some potential
It's just so annoying that whenever RJ misses a shot, the next page and a half of any game thread is unreadable. Y'all give up on guys at every little setback, it's absurd. Nobody's allowed any time to be bad but show flashes, if you're not a star day one, half the fanbase is gonna want you gone. And that's why you can't rebuild in New York.
I wish I could and1 this more than once. I am disappointed too in his recent showings. but damn his shot will fall again and his defense and rebounding are still good. he can get to rim almost every time he wants, I don't know why the **** we are just using him as a spot up shooter right now while he is strugglin from outside.
but K-Dot you are spot on and most of the users in here don't deserve a good knicks team in their lifetime. this is so bad.
very good second season -> "RJ !!!!!"
good preseason and start to this season "RJ BETTER THAN MORANT, HERRO and so on...!!!!"
a bad 10 game stretch "he is the ultimate bust, he's never going to be good !!!"
DaGawd wrote:Reign23 wrote:K-DOT wrote:Yeah, I mean 11/4/1.3 on 40/25/62 in his 3rd year is just dreadful
Oh wait, that was Jaylen Brown's first 20 games his 3rd year
RJ's so much worse, just 14/6/2 on 40/31/70 splits... wait a second
He's having a bad year yeah, but y'all are obnoxiously excessive about it. And y'all pretend like he doesn't show flashes, but he does. He's inconsistent (meaning bad right now) but I don't know why y'all are like, so ready to sh*t on draft picks. It's like y'all want them to be bad
I'm fine with people saying he's regressed, cause he has so far, but god damn are y'all just excessively pessimistic about everything. It's like a fetish for you people, you want the Knicks to be bad so you can go "woe is me, I'm such a suffering Knicks fan" and have people pity you. He'll be fine, it'd be one thing if he had looked like this the whole time, but last year he looked pretty good, so it's clear he does have some potential
It's just so annoying that whenever RJ misses a shot, the next page and a half of any game thread is unreadable. Y'all give up on guys at every little setback, it's absurd. Nobody's allowed any time to be bad but show flashes, if you're not a star day one, half the fanbase is gonna want you gone. And that's why you can't rebuild in New York.
I wish I could and1 this more than once. I am disappointed too in his recent showings. but damn his shot will fall again and his defense and rebounding are still good. he can get to rim almost every time he wants, I don't know why the **** we are just using him as a spot up shooter right now while he is strugglin from outside.
but K-Dot you are spot on and most of the users in here don't deserve a good knicks team in their lifetime. this is so bad.
very good second season -> "RJ !!!!!"
good preseason and start to this season "RJ BETTER THAN MORANT, HERRO and so on...!!!!"
a bad 10 game stretch "he is the ultimate bust, he's never going to be good !!!"
What good is getting to the rim if you don’t finish lol.. y’all are hilarious.
Iron Mantis wrote:The Bulls have 2 All-Star guards....one of which the Knicks could have signed. Yet we're stuck with Fournier, racking up losses and playing poor defense.
Knicks haven't had an all star guard since Allan Houston n Spree.
Is getting an All-star level guard really 18 years type difficulty level? Really?
