Enes Kanter to Jeremy Lin: You’ve betrayed the Chinese people, sold out to “dirty Chinese communist party”

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Post#81 » by Dr Aki » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:18 am

kanter's head got too big too fast
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Post#82 » by payton2kemp » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:19 am

DaPessimist wrote:This guy going the full-on Kaepernick post-career social justice warrior route. I expect to see a documentary in the near future. :lol:


Kaepernick didn't go around telling other players what to protest, did his own thing, and if they came on board he welcomed them. The two are nothing alike.
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Post#83 » by Overhere » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:20 am

Enes going for that NBA to NED career transition, that's gotta be a first.
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Post#84 » by Clay Davis » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:20 am

If someone approves of China's belligerent attitude towards Taiwan they do not stand for either human rights or democracy. The Chinese government has a long history of trying to influence Taiwanese politics through either the style of social media influence that we're all familiar with to strong-arming other governments/international agencies to not recognize Taiwan's status as a politically autonomous state.

It's hilarious that people think of the Taiwan-Chinese relationship as being somewhat benign and non-oppressive when we're still in the midst of a coronavirus pandemic wherein the Chinese government has actively tried to halt Taiwan's incorporation into the WHO (where they would have been and would continue to be a massive asset in the global fight against COVID-19).
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Post#85 » by Clay Davis » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:21 am

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Enes is definitely heated about China lately. No response from Qing James yet.

Kanter is criticizing Jeremy Lin for betraying the Taiwanese people. Taiwan is not China. The title of the thread is a perpetualization of the C.C.P.'s position on Taiwan (that it is actually a part of China rather than being a democratic country).
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Post#86 » by Flopper » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:32 am

threethehardway wrote:Nobody will admit that Enes Kanter anti- China crusade is classic Red Scare Sinophobia.

Lol like he doesn't live in a country that depends on Chinese manufacturing and loans. Like he doesn't live in a country that has the highest prison population in the world.

Lol I can list 100 things that America does that is just as bad as China but noooooooo.

China bad, Asian man bad, communism bad.

That's a false equivalency. The cruelty of US immigration policy, uneven protection of press freedoms, and lack of regard for privacy in the name national security is no doubt below the standards we try to apply ourselves and other countries, but what China has done recently with the Uighur, Hong Kong, and it's high-tech surveillance state is magnitudes worse. Then you start looking at how censored Chinese media is and how heavy-handed the government is with it's control of it and it's just on another level compared to any other 1st or 2nd world countries when you factor in the scale at which it's happening. It's basically the same country that drove a tank over a protestor 30 years ago, they're just more subtle about it now.
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Post#87 » by bamheat » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:35 am

Got to give it to Kanter. While every American is obsessed with white people being "racist" for having their hair as dreads or listening to rap music...Kanter actually speaks about legit issues.
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Post#88 » by Myth » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:38 am

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OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
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Enes is definitely heated about China lately. No response from Qing James yet.

Kanter is criticizing Jeremy Lin for betraying the Taiwanese people. Taiwan is not China. The title of the thread is a perpetualization of the C.C.P.'s position on Taiwan (that it is actually a part of China rather than being a democratic country).

This, but I think the OP just simply didn’t know. But you are correct that it would be more appropriately titled “You’ve betrayed the Taiwanese people, sold out to ‘dirty Chinese communist party.’”
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Post#89 » by JN61 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:39 am

Qing James. Jeez these threads need some kind of laughter warning in them.
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Post#90 » by KrAzY3 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:40 am

threethehardway wrote:Lol I can list 100 things that America does that is just as bad as China but noooooooo.

I can probably list 100 things China is doing or has done in recent years that are worse than anything in western first world countries.

Also, what China is doing that is the most atrocious is to their own citizens! To cloak criticism of the Chinese government as some sort of racism is incredibly backwards. It would be like saying it was racist to criticize American policies during the time of slavery. You can't criticize the country, it has black people living in it! Yeah well what if we're being critical because of how they were treating black people? How can people misconstrue that? It's racist to support Taiwan? It's racist to support Hong Kong? C'mon man that's utter nonsense.

I knew someone that lived in mainland China and I saw the stuff he smuggled out, pictures of protestors writing signs in blood and things like that. China is incredibly messed up, not because people there are Chinese, because their government is inherently evil to the core.
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Post#91 » by Myth » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:40 am

Kanter is going to make enough enemies in the NBA to push himself out of the league. They will put up with his political statements in general, but being randomly called or by name will make people not want to be teammates with him if he calls out too many players.
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Post#92 » by Diop » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:45 am

Clay Davis wrote:
OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
Read on Twitter


Enes is definitely heated about China lately. No response from Qing James yet.

Kanter is criticizing Jeremy Lin for betraying the Taiwanese people. Taiwan is not China. The title of the thread is a perpetualization of the C.C.P.'s position on Taiwan (that it is actually a part of China rather than being a democratic country).

I read an article about Taiwan, it’s pretty a bloody confusing history but I can see why China claim it as there’s.
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Post#93 » by JN61 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:45 am

CarMalone wrote:
OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:No response from Qing James yet.

FYI Q in Mandarin is pronounced "Ch". Calling him Qing James sounds ignorant and clueless.

Ignorant? Just like LeIgnorant himself.
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Post#94 » by threethehardway » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:45 am

Flopper wrote:That's a false equivalency. The cruelty of US immigration policy, uneven protection of press freedoms, and lack of regard for privacy in the name national security is no doubt below the standards we try to apply ourselves and other countries, but what China has done recently with the Uighur, Hong Kong, and it's high-tech surveillance state is magnitudes worse. Then you start looking at how censored Chinese media is and how heavy-handed the government is with it's control of it and it's just on another level compared to any other 1st or 2nd world countries when you factor in the scale at which it's happening. It's basically the same country that drove a tank over a protestor 30 years ago, they're just more subtle about it now.


Let's see

America genocided Native Americans as national policy and confined them to reservations

America was caught spying on its own citizens and allies thanks to Edward Snowden

America tried to evade and takeover Cuba multiple times and then embargoed it, forever impoverishing and isolating the nation.

America started the racist War on Drugs and was caught supplying drugs to rogue factions in South America that were anti-democratic and pro-America.

America lied to the world about WMDs to start the War on Terrorism, which has disrupted the Middle East

America militarily and financially supports Israel and Saudi Arabia, two of the biggest human rights violators in the world

America spied on and harassed civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King Jr

America supported and trained death squads in South America that killed millions of people in order to prevent socialism in South America.

America has experimented on its own citizens.

America has done worse or equivalent to whatever horrors China has done, only difference is, China doesn't morally grandstand like America does and play world police.

Nobody in the world points the finger at the horrors of America because they are too scared to or already sold out a long time ago.

And anytime you bring it to another American, there's somebody worse and America is the good guy, it's so funnyyl that it's scary.
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Post#95 » by D.Brasco » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:46 am

I agree with Kanter's sentiment but he's coming off as petty and as a bully going after fellow players. If he wants to bring down the PPC it's not going to LeBron James who can do that.

Tweet at world leaders not Jeremy Lim
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Post#96 » by KrAzY3 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:48 am

threethehardway wrote:Let's see

Hmm, forced abortions, active concentration camps, ongoing slave labor, and current organ harvesting operations are nothing compared to that list. You win, nice whataboutism.
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Post#97 » by Optms » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:49 am

CarMalone wrote:
OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:No response from Qing James yet.

FYI Q in Mandarin is pronounced "Ch". Calling him Qing James sounds ignorant and clueless.


I've seen that cringe "Qing James" nick name spewed on here over the last week. So I'm pretty sure it has diddly squat to do with Chinese people and how they pronounce words. But thanks for making us all think it now.
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Post#98 » by GregOden » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:50 am

Enes Kanter has become a full-on neoconservative that hangs out with John Bolton and goes on Fox News regularly to bash "America's enemies". He's straight up just regurgitating neo-con talking points these days. He's not exactly being an honest actor here in his "activism", rather he's become an big empire Americana tribalist that pretends to be for secular values.

My read on this situation is Enes knows his NBA career is coming to an end and sees a lot of right wing grifter money available for his next career on reactionary news as a "contributor."
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Post#99 » by Clay Davis » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:50 am

Diop wrote:
Clay Davis wrote:
OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
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Enes is definitely heated about China lately. No response from Qing James yet.

Kanter is criticizing Jeremy Lin for betraying the Taiwanese people. Taiwan is not China. The title of the thread is a perpetualization of the C.C.P.'s position on Taiwan (that it is actually a part of China rather than being a democratic country).

I read an article about Taiwan, it’s pretty a bloody confusing history but I can see why China claim it as there’s.

They can claim all they want, the reality is is that Taiwan has been self-governing and democratic for the past fourty years.
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Post#100 » by Tacoma » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:51 am

Clay Davis wrote:If someone approves of China's belligerent attitude towards Taiwan they do not stand for either human rights or democracy. The Chinese government has a long history of trying to influence Taiwanese politics through either the style of social media influence that we're all familiar with to strong-arming other governments/international agencies to not recognize Taiwan's status as a politically autonomous state.

It's hilarious that people think of the Taiwan-Chinese relationship as being somewhat benign and non-oppressive when we're still in the midst of a coronavirus pandemic wherein the Chinese government has actively tried to halt Taiwan's incorporation into the WHO (where they would have been and would continue to be a massive asset in the global fight against COVID-19).


Politics aside, there's no animosity between the people of Taiwan and China. On the contrary, Taiwan is one of the biggest investors in China, pumping hundreds of billions into China. Conversely, China buys a lot of goods from Taiwan, accounting for ~85% of Taiwan's total export. Like Jeremy Lin, they are all just trying to make a living. Kanter is off base on this and owes Lin an apology.

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